As a tactician, Robinson has worrying weaknesses. His sub decisions are hard to understand and in the last two games they have weakened us instead of strengthening us. Too many games have seen points thrown away this season and making the playoffs is no longer a certainty for me. I just do not feel he is able to offer us any more. A change of owner will hopefully allow us to appoint a more competent manager who can take us forward.
He is incapable of adapting tactically during a game. Inexperienced coaching staff around him doesn't help.
I'm in 2 minds about Robinson. Under the circumstances he has done ok in the transfer market. We are also in 7th spot - not too bad with all that is going on. However, we actually should be doing better and have thrown too many points away from winning positions. He has a naivety about him which is perplexing. Maybe if he had an experienced person alongside him (like a Lenny type) then that would work. Especially from what I've seen of his lack of defensive insight and his substitutions.
The question would be - would Robinson work with and listen to an experienced sidekick like that? Somehow I doubt it.
He has to be fair been extraordinarily unlucky with injuries to key players. I for one want Robbo given a chance once RD departs.
Is it luck or a poor training regimine?
Also, those thinking the critisicm of him is just a knee jerk reaction to our last defeat, it's not, what about all the other defeats, all the other occasions he's refused to deviate from 'his tactics' and his inability to see beyond his own ego.
He doesn't learn and never will. Give him until the end of the season, as I don't think anyone else could do much better with his unbalanced squad, if we don't go up, get rid ASAP.
I think you are using your dislike of Robinson to gloss over the injuries sustained to key players and even twisting that to fit your agenda by suggesting the injuries are his fault.
Well the 3 games in 3 days in pre-season was his idea. I'm yet to see Guardiola or Pochettino adopting that into their pre-season programmes, probably because it's a stupid idea. He also made a load of comments about how hard he was going to work on their fitness over the summer, the amount of injuries we've been sustaining suggests he worked them too hard.
No it doesn’t. It’s you suggesting that.
So you think it's just bad luck? That happens to follow KR from, club to club?
Ok. Give me evidence that KR has more injury problems historically than other managers. You won’t because you can’t.
Not taking sides here but Milton Keynes used the same pre-season with 3 games on consecutive days, the previous summer.
He has to be fair been extraordinarily unlucky with injuries to key players. I for one want Robbo given a chance once RD departs.
Is it luck or a poor training regimine?
Also, those thinking the critisicm of him is just a knee jerk reaction to our last defeat, it's not, what about all the other defeats, all the other occasions he's refused to deviate from 'his tactics' and his inability to see beyond his own ego.
He doesn't learn and never will. Give him until the end of the season, as I don't think anyone else could do much better with his unbalanced squad, if we don't go up, get rid ASAP.
I think you are using your dislike of Robinson to gloss over the injuries sustained to key players and even twisting that to fit your agenda by suggesting the injuries are his fault.
Well the 3 games in 3 days in pre-season was his idea. I'm yet to see Guardiola or Pochettino adopting that into their pre-season programmes, probably because it's a stupid idea. He also made a load of comments about how hard he was going to work on their fitness over the summer, the amount of injuries we've been sustaining suggests he worked them too hard.
No it doesn’t. It’s you suggesting that.
So you think it's just bad luck? That happens to follow KR from, club to club?
Ok. Give me evidence that KR has more injury problems historically than other managers. You won’t because you can’t.
Can you give me evidence that he doesn't have more injury problems than other managers?
I love it when we get into the "give me evidence" stage.
Give me evidence that the universe was not created by an all - powerful transcendental intelligent shrimp.
The truth is out there. If you’re going to say that our injuries are down to Robinson’s training methods and it was the same at MK then dig out the proof.
I think it’s called put up or shut up.
Sorry to interfere in your discussion but there was an MK Don's fan who posted on here recently who implied KR's training methods did indeed cause all sorts of injury problems at MK.
I'd already pointed that out to SHG, as Mr Largo pointed out the issue with 3 friendlies in 3 days, SHG chose to ignore those things though.
Are you really suggesting that the 3 games played in 3 days in pre season, in July, which was much changed teams, at a low intensity, had any bearing to the amount of injuries we had in December, 5 months later?
Because I assure you, that’s ridiculous.
The fact is, many of our injuries late last year were contact injuries which in itself isn’t exactly preventable. They happen in football. From speaking to members of the medical and sports science staff in November, the number of injuries at that specific point of the season was the exact same as the season before. We also didn’t have one single hamstring injury until after November, something that we had a few of the previous season.
The staff looked at the intensity of training, the type of training, they looked at each player specifically to try and tailor it more individually, they’ve looked at rest and recovery, they’ve done massive amount of reading and research.
Once this season is finished, they will sit down together and really go through each injury. They’ll go through the training and the tests they use. They’ll produce a huge documentation and look at what can be done differently or what can be added to reduce injuries. But overall, I do believe that we were and have been just extremely unlucky at times. If it was Robinson’s training methods we would find a lot more little injuries with shorter time each player is out for. Instead, the injuries we have had are long duration which has really hurt us. Marshall, Fosu, Clarke, Pearce, Best, now Mavididi. And now think of how many of them were contact injuries or ones like Mavididi where he was off balance.
I think people are very quick to jump on Robinson or the medical team when you’re not party to what goes on and what they do, and with all due respect, I doubt qualified to really say confidently that this or that is the reason either.
He has to be fair been extraordinarily unlucky with injuries to key players. I for one want Robbo given a chance once RD departs.
Is it luck or a poor training regimine?
Also, those thinking the critisicm of him is just a knee jerk reaction to our last defeat, it's not, what about all the other defeats, all the other occasions he's refused to deviate from 'his tactics' and his inability to see beyond his own ego.
He doesn't learn and never will. Give him until the end of the season, as I don't think anyone else could do much better with his unbalanced squad, if we don't go up, get rid ASAP.
I think you are using your dislike of Robinson to gloss over the injuries sustained to key players and even twisting that to fit your agenda by suggesting the injuries are his fault.
Well the 3 games in 3 days in pre-season was his idea. I'm yet to see Guardiola or Pochettino adopting that into their pre-season programmes, probably because it's a stupid idea. He also made a load of comments about how hard he was going to work on their fitness over the summer, the amount of injuries we've been sustaining suggests he worked them too hard.
No it doesn’t. It’s you suggesting that.
So you think it's just bad luck? That happens to follow KR from, club to club?
He has to be fair been extraordinarily unlucky with injuries to key players. I for one want Robbo given a chance once RD departs.
Is it luck or a poor training regimine?
Also, those thinking the critisicm of him is just a knee jerk reaction to our last defeat, it's not, what about all the other defeats, all the other occasions he's refused to deviate from 'his tactics' and his inability to see beyond his own ego.
He doesn't learn and never will. Give him until the end of the season, as I don't think anyone else could do much better with his unbalanced squad, if we don't go up, get rid ASAP.
I think you are using your dislike of Robinson to gloss over the injuries sustained to key players and even twisting that to fit your agenda by suggesting the injuries are his fault.
Well the 3 games in 3 days in pre-season was his idea. I'm yet to see Guardiola or Pochettino adopting that into their pre-season programmes, probably because it's a stupid idea. He also made a load of comments about how hard he was going to work on their fitness over the summer, the amount of injuries we've been sustaining suggests he worked them too hard.
No it doesn’t. It’s you suggesting that.
So you think it's just bad luck? That happens to follow KR from, club to club?
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Do you think ? I think a good manager would have taken us up with this squad, notwithstanding the injuries
Tend to agree with that, the players he has had both when injury hit and all fit on paper is one of the best in the league - and arguably with injuries his match day squad is still up there even with injuries!
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Do you think ? I think a good manager would have taken us up with this squad, notwithstanding the injuries
Tend to agree with that, the players he has had both when injury hit and all fit on paper is one of the best in the league - and arguably with injuries his match day squad is still up there even with injuries!
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Do you think ? I think a good manager would have taken us up with this squad, notwithstanding the injuries
Tend to agree with that, the players he has had both when injury hit and all fit on paper is one of the best in the league - and arguably with injuries his match day squad is still up there even with injuries!
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Yes but you’ve seen Ajose play haven’t you? I can only go on what I’ve seen.
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Yes but you’ve seen Ajose play haven’t you? I can only go on what I’ve seen.
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
Kaikai got 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury in this division 2 years ago and played half a season for Brentford in the championship last year who reportedly had a 1m bid for him turned down. Zyro is a Polish international who did well for Wolves before his (admittedly very long) injury. I'd say both would be amongst the better players in this division.
What's he got against Aribo, he had a little run in the team, played well then gets dropped.
In fact you could say the same about Grant, whilst I am not his biggest fan, scored a few goals got a bit of confidence, gets dropped, gets shipped out on loan.
To me he has his favourites and will more or less play them whatever form they are in. England manager in the making!
Gone by end of season if the takeover takes place.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Yes but you’ve seen Ajose play haven’t you? I can only go on what I’ve seen.
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
Kaikai got 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury in this division 2 years ago and played half a season for Brentford in the championship last year who reportedly had a 1m bid for him turned down. Zyro is a Polish international who did well for Wolves before his (admittedly very long) injury. I'd say both would be amongst the better players in this division.
'Should' be perhaps rather than 'would'. But the thing is, I don't know if Rotherham or Blackpool or Portsmouth haven't got someone who has played for Poland or Norway or whatever, or played half a season in the Championship, so it's hard to use that as an elevating factor isn't it?
I just think there's this assumption that because we're Charlton we must have a top squad, but I think it's easy to underestimate the effect of four years Duchâtelisation.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
Mate I don’t want to insult you, but your comments on this page make you look a bit dim. This is an absolutely derisory league with about 4 decent teams in it. Do you not perhaps think the reason teams are matching us up is because the management isn’t getting the best out of the squad? We have two england under 20 World Cup winners in our squad, a Northern Irish international who played in the euros, a goalkeeper who should be playing at a higher level, JFC and Kashi are definitely too good for this level. Fosu attracted bids from the championship last month. Marshall and Clarke were Bradford’s best players last season and helped them to the play offs. Mavididi is from Arsenal, which sums up the high quality player he is. The two new loan players come with decent pedigree. But nah you’re right mate, our squad isn’t that good is it
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Yes but you’ve seen Ajose play haven’t you? I can only go on what I’ve seen.
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
Kaikai got 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury in this division 2 years ago and played half a season for Brentford in the championship last year who reportedly had a 1m bid for him turned down. Zyro is a Polish international who did well for Wolves before his (admittedly very long) injury. I'd say both would be amongst the better players in this division.
'Should' be perhaps rather than 'would'. But the thing is, I don't know if Rotherham or Blackpool or Portsmouth haven't got someone who has played for Poland or Norway or whatever, or played half a season in the Championship, so it's hard to use that as an elevating factor isn't it perhaps?
I just think there's this assumption that because we're Charlton we must have a top squad, but I think it's easy to underestimate the effect of four years Duchâtelisation.
2 sides who were both in league 2 last season? Yes we have better squads than them!
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Yes but you’ve seen Ajose play haven’t you? I can only go on what I’ve seen.
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
Kaikai got 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury in this division 2 years ago and played half a season for Brentford in the championship last year who reportedly had a 1m bid for him turned down. Zyro is a Polish international who did well for Wolves before his (admittedly very long) injury. I'd say both would be amongst the better players in this division.
'Should' be perhaps rather than 'would'. But the thing is, I don't know if Rotherham or Blackpool or Portsmouth haven't got someone who has played for Poland or Norway or whatever, or played half a season in the Championship, so it's hard to use that as an elevating factor isn't it perhaps?
I just think there's this assumption that because we're Charlton we must have a top squad, but I think it's easy to underestimate the effect of four years Duchâtelisation.
2 sides who were both in league 2 last season? Yes we have better squads than them!
I think the point was a more general one than specifically about those clubs. I have no idea how many Shrewsbury or Scunthorpe players would get in our team for example. We have a strong team on paper but we're 7th with a poor goal difference (for a club expecting promotion).
If we definitely have a better squad than Portsmouth why are they only a point behind us?
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
On paper yes.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Yes but you’ve seen Ajose play haven’t you? I can only go on what I’ve seen.
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
Kaikai got 12 in 26 for Shrewsbury in this division 2 years ago and played half a season for Brentford in the championship last year who reportedly had a 1m bid for him turned down. Zyro is a Polish international who did well for Wolves before his (admittedly very long) injury. I'd say both would be amongst the better players in this division.
'Should' be perhaps rather than 'would'. But the thing is, I don't know if Rotherham or Blackpool or Portsmouth haven't got someone who has played for Poland or Norway or whatever, or played half a season in the Championship, so it's hard to use that as an elevating factor isn't it perhaps? I just think there's this assumption tha
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
Mate I don’t want to insult you, but your comments on this page make you look a bit dim. This is an absolutely derisory league with about 4 decent teams in it. Do you not perhaps think the reason teams are matching us up is because the management isn’t getting the best out of the squad? We have two england under 20 World Cup winners in our squad, a Northern Irish international who played in the euros, a goalkeeper who should be playing at a higher level, JFC and Kashi are definitely too good for this level. Fosu attracted bids from the championship last month. Marshall and Clarke were Bradford’s best players last season and helped them to the play offs. Mavididi is from Arsenal, which sums up the high quality player he is. The two new loan players come with decent pedigree. But nah you’re right mate, our squad isn’t that good is it
Thank you for that. All I'm saying is that I don't know enough about the other squads in the league to say we're clearly top three, and neither do you. The evidence of my eyes suggests that we may not be.
Yes, we have Mavididi on loan from Arsenal (all the Arsenal fans I know had never heard of him btw) as well as Dasilva, but other squads also have players on loan from the Premier League as well. JFC is decent, but in most matches the other sides have players who are equal or better than him imo. The same applies to Josh. It doesn't matter if he plays for Northern Ireland, he doesn't have much competition at this time. He's a decent League One player, and I love his attitude, but he's not one of the top three or four strikers in this derisory league, whatever formation we're playing.
You're using poor results to push an anti Robinson agenda, which you're entitled to do of course. I'm probably using them to blame the Duchatelet influence. Each to their own I guess. But try to engage in a debate without throwing the insults around.
If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.
Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.
Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
Is our squad easily amongst the best 3-4 in the league? How do we work that out. Most of the matches I’ve been to this season have been close, and most of the teas seemed similar in quality to ours. Jay Dasilva and Fosu (& Mavididi) perhaps look outstanding, but we regularly come up against teams who otherwise match us in all areas.
Mate I don’t want to insult you, but your comments on this page make you look a bit dim. This is an absolutely derisory league with about 4 decent teams in it. Do you not perhaps think the reason teams are matching us up is because the management isn’t getting the best out of the squad? We have two england under 20 World Cup winners in our squad, a Northern Irish international who played in the euros, a goalkeeper who should be playing at a higher level, JFC and Kashi are definitely too good for this level. Fosu attracted bids from the championship last month. Marshall and Clarke were Bradford’s best players last season and helped them to the play offs. Mavididi is from Arsenal, which sums up the high quality player he is. The two new loan players come with decent pedigree. But nah you’re right mate, our squad isn’t that good is it
Spot on. Add to your list the fact we have 5 centre backs with a lot of league experience. How many other clubs in this division have that?
This is a piss poor league this year. Its missing any big clubs (apart from ourselves, Blackburn and Portsmouth). How on earth are the likes of scunthorpe,Rotherham, and Shrewsbury with their small attendances above us in the table?
To not qualify for the play-offs with this squad would be unthinkable. And as that is looking increasingly likely it's time to ask serious questions about Robinson.
Our squad is amongst the best there’s little doubt of that just as there is little doubt of Robinson’s ability to manage it well. We’ve been beaten repeatedly by clubs with even smaller gates than us and less resources. As a basic indicator there aren’t many league 1 clubs that can get games postponed because players are on international duty.
I think KR is a mediocre manager but under RD's ownership nobody decent would want to work for us. I do feel we have the players for a top 6 finish - anything else has to be seen as failure.
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If that was the case why change things? Robinson made the decision so you’ll agree he’s messed up yet again.
The question would be - would Robinson work with and listen to an experienced sidekick like that? Somehow I doubt it.
Because I assure you, that’s ridiculous.
The fact is, many of our injuries late last year were contact injuries which in itself isn’t exactly preventable. They happen in football. From speaking to members of the medical and sports science staff in November, the number of injuries at that specific point of the season was the exact same as the season before. We also didn’t have one single hamstring injury until after November, something that we had a few of the previous season.
The staff looked at the intensity of training, the type of training, they looked at each player specifically to try and tailor it more individually, they’ve looked at rest and recovery, they’ve done massive amount of reading and research.
Once this season is finished, they will sit down together and really go through each injury. They’ll go through the training and the tests they use. They’ll produce a huge documentation and look at what can be done differently or what can be added to reduce injuries. But overall, I do believe that we were and have been just extremely unlucky at times. If it was Robinson’s training methods we would find a lot more little injuries with shorter time each player is out for. Instead, the injuries we have had are long duration which has really hurt us. Marshall, Fosu, Clarke, Pearce, Best, now Mavididi. And now think of how many of them were contact injuries or ones like Mavididi where he was off balance.
I think people are very quick to jump on Robinson or the medical team when you’re not party to what goes on and what they do, and with all due respect, I doubt qualified to really say confidently that this or that is the reason either.
Amos, Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, JFC, Marshall, Holmes (for half a season), Clarke, Reeves, Fosu, Magennis would all get into most sides in this division. And now we have Kaikai and Zyro added too, as well as Ajose who has 30 goals in 62 games for Swindon and Bury in this division over the past 3 seasons.
If other sides are regularly matching us in all areas, then questions should be asked of the guy managing them. I get we've had injuries but that's part and parcel of football.
Sarr - Hamstring
Solly - Calf
Forster Caskey - Thigh
Fosu - Quad
Mavididi - Hamstring
And just listing the players doesn’t mean that we have the third or fourth best squad in the league. I don’t know if we have or not, and with respect I doubt you do either, because neither of us watches the other sides more than once or twice a season. Only their goals are shown on TV. I’m not a massive expert on League One and really don’t want to be.
Yes we’ve now got Kaikai and Zylo, but they are players barely any of us had heard of let alone see play. Why add them to the equation?
Sorry, I think we have a better squad than last year, but we’re still weak in key areas; We don’t have a goal scoring striker, we’re weak at right back and we lack a bit of steel in midfield.
Solve those problems we’d be probably be higher up the league table.
Zyro is a Polish international who did well for Wolves before his (admittedly very long) injury.
I'd say both would be amongst the better players in this division.
In fact you could say the same about Grant, whilst I am not his biggest fan, scored a few goals got a bit of confidence, gets dropped, gets shipped out on loan.
To me he has his favourites and will more or less play them whatever form they are in. England manager in the making!
Gone by end of season if the takeover takes place.
But the thing is, I don't know if Rotherham or Blackpool or Portsmouth haven't got someone who has played for Poland or Norway or whatever, or played half a season in the Championship, so it's hard to use that as an elevating factor isn't it?
I just think there's this assumption that because we're Charlton we must have a top squad, but I think it's easy to underestimate the effect of four years Duchâtelisation.
This is an absolutely derisory league with about 4 decent teams in it. Do you not perhaps think the reason teams are matching us up is because the management isn’t getting the best out of the squad? We have two england under 20 World Cup winners in our squad, a Northern Irish international who played in the euros, a goalkeeper who should be playing at a higher level, JFC and Kashi are definitely too good for this level. Fosu attracted bids from the championship last month. Marshall and Clarke were Bradford’s best players last season and helped them to the play offs. Mavididi is from Arsenal, which sums up the high quality player he is. The two new loan players come with decent pedigree. But nah you’re right mate, our squad isn’t that good is it
If we definitely have a better squad than Portsmouth why are they only a point behind us?
But the thing is, I don't know if Rotherham or Blackpool or Portsmouth haven't got someone who has played for Poland or Norway or whatever, or played half a season in the Championship, so it's hard to use that as an elevating factor isn't it perhaps?
I just think there's this assumption tha Thank you for that.
All I'm saying is that I don't know enough about the other squads in the league to say we're clearly top three, and neither do you. The evidence of my eyes suggests that we may not be.
Yes, we have Mavididi on loan from Arsenal (all the Arsenal fans I know had never heard of him btw) as well as Dasilva, but other squads also have players on loan from the Premier League as well.
JFC is decent, but in most matches the other sides have players who are equal or better than him imo. The same applies to Josh. It doesn't matter if he plays for Northern Ireland, he doesn't have much competition at this time. He's a decent League One player, and I love his attitude, but he's not one of the top three or four strikers in this derisory league, whatever formation we're playing.
You're using poor results to push an anti Robinson agenda, which you're entitled to do of course. I'm probably using them to blame the Duchatelet influence. Each to their own I guess.
But try to engage in a debate without throwing the insults around.
This is a piss poor league this year. Its missing any big clubs (apart from ourselves, Blackburn and Portsmouth). How on earth are the likes of scunthorpe,Rotherham, and Shrewsbury with their small attendances above us in the table?
To not qualify for the play-offs with this squad would be unthinkable. And as that is looking increasingly likely it's time to ask serious questions about Robinson.
Long way to go of course, and we can still make it, but you can't blame fans for losing patience with Robinson when we are underperforming.
(I would in fact say anything other than promotion was a failure, but top 6 is a bare minumum)