Duplication because I first posted this on the wrong thread.
If it is possible to only concentrate on the football for a moment, and to accept that managers tend to be under resourced and undermined at Charlton, then this may well be a good appointment.
I have written before that when I have seen MKD play, their brand of football has been easy on the eye. However I have learned in the two epic Nugent matches how quickly it is possible to make some positive changes football wise. In that spirit I hope that Karl Robinson is able to effect improvement straight away, and then sustain increased improvement.
From his CV, clinging on to a life in the game limpet wise as he played for virtually every non league team in the north west, it suggests to me a man who is really into football, and would always be up for a game, and be up for life in the game.
Karl Robinson may not have been involved in the game at the highest level, but I do believe he is immersed in football if you get my meaning. I see this as a good thing.
I also get the impression which goes against the 'arrogance' tag, that he his thirsty for knowledge and experience, and will take on board anything that will help to give him an edge, he is open to ideas and does not come across as a man who knows everything to me. Karl's public persona is a bit provocative at times, which he may think is a necessary part of the job.
In order to endear himself with fans this is my advice.
Win matches first and foremost and all the time.
Keep your pronouncement to the football, if you have to mention fans then praise them, but beware of being patronising if you do because we will see through it, I would advise Karl to use the phrase 'we hope for' rather than 'we demand' in relation to the fans.
Always acknowledge the fans, especially away, even if they are critical. I remember Andy Hughes being the last off at Sheffield United in that awful cup game, continually clapping our support as they miserably drifted away, took some doing, but it was the measure of the man, and Karl and his players could learn something from things like that.
A bond will come with fans over time, a shared memory of a good match, new experiences will forge a relationship. Whilst that is happening try behind the scenes to get to know the club in some depth. Not as Slade would have put it 'a business', but in terms of the clubs culture and history. Internalise as much of that as you can, and even though we may not be Liverpool or Everton (I assume he supports one of them) don't sneer at what we have been by comparison, but be glad and respectful of our past. Do a bit of learning, have lengthy boot room chats, with cups of tea and sandwiches with Keith Peacock would be a very good idea.
Like AFKA I have always thought that Karl Robinson is a promising young manager. My hope is that despite this appalling regime we have a man steeped in football who will make that side of the club work, I would hate it if he turns out to be a player farm enthusiast.
The club would do well now to keep Nugent on and to bin COL, but that ain't going to happen sadly.
Anyway good luck Karl, I will watch your footballing progress with more interest than I did with dear old Slade.
LordDofB said: ''Mmmm the guy who signed Danny Green & Simon Church for MK Dons''.
To be fair to Chris Powell who previously signed these two. Danny Green was decent in our promotion season and Simon Church was signed when were potless. Either him or no one! Not an easy decision to make!
Could this be 8th time lucky for Roly and Ms Nightmeire or will the penny finally drop that we do badly whoever the coach is because the coach is not be the key incompetent moron in the club set up?
Russel Slade sacked on the 14th of November Karl Robinson hired on the 24th of November
Come on, it's good that we've made a quick appointment, as long as the appointee looks decent & Robinson does. As I've said before we were never going to get the likes of Allardyce, so yes there are no guarantees. Robinson may be a great success, no one knows, but he's not network, so I can't complain.
I thought we should have kept Gritt not Curbs and thought Pardew was a great appointment. So no one knows with any certainty.
Best of luck to Robinson, he has my full backing. What's the alterrnative, appoint no one ?
Russel Slade sacked on the 14th of November Karl Robinson hired on the 24th of November
Come on, it's good that we've made a quick appointment, as long as the appointee looks decent & Robinson does. As I've said before we were never going to get the likes of Allardyce, so yes there are no guarantees. Robinson may be a great success, no one knows, but he's not network, so I can't complain.
I thought we should have kept Gritt not Curbs and thought Pardew was a great appointment. So no one knows with any certainty.
Best of luck to Robinson, he has my full backing. What's the alterrnative, appoint no one ?
Just so I can inform my betting profile, do you think Karl is a good appointment? I'll be betting against your opinion based on your previous
2 1/2 year deal?! More than likely a 2 1/2 month deal. I wish him luck having to deal with such an idiotic regime. One defeat and he'll be sweating on his job.
100% support from me on this. Good luck Karl. Let's hope you can do your job and get the results we'll need in spite of all the off field unrest going on at the moment.
Ermm, don't you mean inspite of the off field interference & mismanagement of the club by the SMT / owner ? The unrest is response to not the cause of the problems at the club or on the field.
I don't like Karl. Over-rated, showed no class at all when Wolves winger Michal Zyro was hacked to pieces off the ball by his defender - didn't even get an apology.
We probably should have gone for his double - Darren Farley off the Coral ads.
As an opposition manager that's not good. But if he's our manager I have no problem, if he's not all nicey nicey with the opposition. Charlton have always been too nice. It'll be good to show a bit of steel. We might even show some bottle at Millwall.
Personally I think he is about as good a manager that we could get considering we are a league one club. I just hope he is allowed to manage without miere interfering. Shall give him my full support. Good luck Karl you're gonna need it
Was speaking to someone yesterday who used to play in the same non league team as him.
He said he was a typical confident scouser who could blag his way into anything. So it could be interesting times ahead if he stands his ground with his bosses!!. That seems a long way from Slater who always seemed to be nervous / shifty when being interviewed.
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If it is possible to only concentrate on the football for a moment, and to accept that managers tend to be under resourced and undermined at Charlton, then this may well be a good appointment.
I have written before that when I have seen MKD play, their brand of football has been easy on the eye. However I have learned in the two epic Nugent matches how quickly it is possible to make some positive changes football wise. In that spirit I hope that Karl Robinson is able to effect improvement straight away, and then sustain increased improvement.
From his CV, clinging on to a life in the game limpet wise as he played for virtually every non league team in the north west, it suggests to me a man who is really into football, and would always be up for a game, and be up for life in the game.
Karl Robinson may not have been involved in the game at the highest level, but I do believe he is immersed in football if you get my meaning. I see this as a good thing.
I also get the impression which goes against the 'arrogance' tag, that he his thirsty for knowledge and experience, and will take on board anything that will help to give him an edge, he is open to ideas and does not come across as a man who knows everything to me. Karl's public persona is a bit provocative at times, which he may think is a necessary part of the job.
In order to endear himself with fans this is my advice.
Win matches first and foremost and all the time.
Keep your pronouncement to the football, if you have to mention fans then praise them, but beware of being patronising if you do because we will see through it, I would advise Karl to use the phrase 'we hope for' rather than 'we demand' in relation to the fans.
Always acknowledge the fans, especially away, even if they are critical. I remember Andy Hughes being the last off at Sheffield United in that awful cup game, continually clapping our support as they miserably drifted away, took some doing, but it was the measure of the man, and Karl and his players could learn something from things like that.
A bond will come with fans over time, a shared memory of a good match, new experiences will forge a relationship. Whilst that is happening try behind the scenes to get to know the club in some depth. Not as Slade would have put it 'a business', but in terms of the clubs culture and history. Internalise as much of that as you can, and even though we may not be Liverpool or Everton (I assume he supports one of them) don't sneer at what we have been by comparison, but be glad and respectful of our past. Do a bit of learning, have lengthy boot room chats, with cups of tea and sandwiches with Keith Peacock would be a very good idea.
Like AFKA I have always thought that Karl Robinson is a promising young manager. My hope is that despite this appalling regime we have a man steeped in football who will make that side of the club work, I would hate it if he turns out to be a player farm enthusiast.
The club would do well now to keep Nugent on and to bin COL, but that ain't going to happen sadly.
Anyway good luck Karl, I will watch your footballing progress with more interest than I did with dear old Slade.
''Mmmm the guy who signed Danny Green & Simon Church for MK Dons''.
To be fair to Chris Powell who previously signed these two.
Danny Green was decent in our promotion season
and Simon Church was signed when were potless.
Either him or no one! Not an easy decision to make!
" Karl Robinson will be the guest of East Kent Addicks, alongside our beloved CEO, Katrien Meire on Tuesday 29th November...."
Could this be 8th time lucky for Roly and Ms Nightmeire or will the penny finally drop that we do badly whoever the coach is because the coach is not be the key incompetent moron in the club set up?
As I've said before we were never going to get the likes of Allardyce, so yes there are no guarantees.
Robinson may be a great success, no one knows, but he's not network, so I can't complain.
I thought we should have kept Gritt not Curbs and thought Pardew was a great appointment. So no one knows with any certainty.
Best of luck to Robinson, he has my full backing. What's the alterrnative, appoint no one ?
Welcome Karl, I hope you are a successful manager just as I have with all previous managers.
Have a good feeling about him.
Charlton have always been too nice. It'll be good to show a bit of steel. We might even show some bottle at Millwall.
I just hope he is allowed to manage without miere interfering.
Shall give him my full support.
Good luck Karl you're gonna need it
He said he was a typical confident scouser who could blag his way into anything. So it could be interesting times ahead if he stands his ground with his bosses!!. That seems a long way from Slater who always seemed to be nervous / shifty when being interviewed.
Good luck Karl.
I seem to remember 18 as well...though it could be a false memory.