Charlton v Peterborough - Match Thread / Post Match Views
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Robinson was in the overcoat. He did sit down with the coaches for a while in the second half. At this time nobody was in the technical area.Sam lloyd said:
Who was the tall bloke in the overcoat "managing" the team, whilst KR was sat down holding a piece of paper then ? #genuinelyinterested1StevieG said:
No.harveys gardener said:Is it true as suggested elsewhere that Robbo sat on the bench and O'Laughlin was orchestrating from touchline.
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Should have gone to Specsavers, sam !Crusty54 said:
Robinson was in the overcoat. He did sit down with the coaches for a while in the second half. At this time nobody was in the technical area.Sam lloyd said:
Who was the tall bloke in the overcoat "managing" the team, whilst KR was sat down holding a piece of paper then ? #genuinelyinterested1StevieG said:
No.harveys gardener said:Is it true as suggested elsewhere that Robbo sat on the bench and O'Laughlin was orchestrating from touchline.
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I honestly have no idea what we were trying to do today.
If it was to play a slick high tempo attacking game we haven't got the players for it.
We totally failed to deal with their midfield set-up and made a side with no real forward threat look good.
Nobody came out with any credit, least of all the manager.
Utterly depressing and what on earth was I thinking buying tickets for Millwall.
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We at times were trying too hard if anything.3
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Was worse than thatAddicksAddict said:Reading the thread, it sounded dreadful, dire, bad, appalling, ...
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Terrible defending, but their second goal was very good, and scored by the most Welsh sounding player ever, Gwion Dafydd Rhys Edwards...2
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Wise move, I should have done the sameAlwaysneil said:First time I've been available and neither gone to the game or watched the match thread.
In a pub full of Charlton fans, I could not build support for us all going and watching the game
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I blame today's defeat on CARD for their thuggish protesting, failure to give Karl Robinson time and not 'backing our boys'. If they just stopped protesting for a bloody moment, maybe they would see that this regime have finally learnt their lessons, are changing their ways and have started a new era.17
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Are we any good? Probably not.
Are Peterboro? No idea
Was i there today? No
Am i drunk? Yes
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I feel down after that performance. And, it's all about the performance. If you draw or lose but play well then it's something to build on and give you hope. But when a performance comes along like that, especially as we've been playing ok, it makes you wonder what is going on. Listening to the game, from the outset we were just second best and it was inevitable when they scored. Even before the game started I was amazed that Chicksen didn't start. Why replace him with Fox?! Why threaten the momentum we need to build up by not playing the players that have been performing best at their position? Why play Konsa at right back when Foley is the better option? And why play Ajose at all? Even playing JJ in the holding midfield position would have been better than what we had out there today. That was an abject performance. Depressing and worrying if you ask me. Same ol', same ol' I suppose but I just didn't see that coming. And that's the worrying thing. Doesn't auger well does it unless KR works some miracles in January. I'm not holding my breath though.
Come on KR, pull your finger out.5 -
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Forgetting the football , was there any from us .
Just going to The Valley is so sad .
I had my 4 boys and 3 (niece/nephews) and there was a collective groan when they were told there was no throwing on the pitch/protesting going to be done .
We walked through the car park and we went over to where there was some kids bow and arrow and an inflatable goal with holes thing put up by the club, it was nigh on empty , the kids had a few goes , I felt bizarrely guilty by being there as if using it was support of the regime, I hate them .
Then in to the ground that was sooooo empty and the lack of passion or atmosphere was embarrassing , the kids were totally bored with the football but I had them out the way in the family stand where they could move around a bit amongst the seats to fight off the boredom at Charlton .
I know there are those waiting for the excuse to blame football results / goals /mistakes /anything they can on CARD and the protests but the proof is all against that , the results are remarkably better when they have happened and the atmosphere is sooooo much better .
On non protest days like today all you have left is a shell of a club , passionless and nothing to get behind a few wins will blind plenty of simpletons but the fact is this regime has taken the life and soul out of Charlton and only new owners will bring it back to life .
I'm off to millwall on Wednesday and will be boozin hard from early afternoon and drinking heavily throughout the game in mates millwall box just to numb what I'll be witnessing . Before yesterday I fancied our chances but the sad reality is even if we do win it will not mean anywhere near as much as those rare savoured victories of the past because this ownership has killed part of my love for our club
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Dead cat splat?Athletico Charlton said:What is the opposite of a new manager bounce?
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I still think the league is pony and if we get a few new manager bounces we can be in the mix !!!
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Can't wait for Viewfinders description of our academy products and Lookmans late attempt at putting the ball in to the danger area from that free kick3
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That was a depressing watch. Football was bad enough but the club is broken on all levels. Footballing wise we have no midfield, apart from the odd bit of skill from Botaka all four of them were made to look like park players by an energetic and organised Peterborough. There's no excuse for that at this level. Our strikers don't appear to be 'goal scorers'. I spoke to a bloke on the bus going home who was not supportive about protesting but he told me the club cannot and will not move forward until there is a change in ownership. My son spent most of the game on his phone, there really is so little to get excited about at the Valley.6
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Having had a long journey home and all night to think about it, I still can't find the words to describe how bad we were. Posh may not be great, but they played as a team. The only entertainment was the near punch up at the end, and Lookman falling over as he attempted to take the free kick. Robinson was on his feet all game, but spent more time having a go at the fourth official than trying to sort his players out. Hanlan was stripped off for about eight minutes before he got on, poor kid must have been freezing. My only positive, the final whistle, and seeing Tex again for the first time since Orient. God knows how many million Lookman has taken off his fee with that performance!4
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Well Roland will be happy as Robinson brought on Hanlan and Aribo. I thought JJ would have been a much better choice to bring on when we are chasing the game and seemed like the only reason Aribo was brought on was for Robbo to say to Roland : Look mate, I'm playing new youngsters.
I don't know. Just so dubious about it all now. Woeful performance from all. Must do better at Millwall.0 -
1. Magennis's shot, technically, rebounded off the post. Had Ajose not been moaning that he hadn't been passed to, he might have pounced on it for the equaliser.LenGlover said:Posting without reading.
The total Charlton end product comprised 1. a Magennis shot glancing the post, a deflection against the cross bar and 2. a Bauer header cleared off the line. That was it. Positively Sladeesque if that is not a contradiction in terms!
As isSlade's3. A clumsy foul by Konsa and a free kick whereby the Charlton defence played 'after you Claude' and allowed Trafazolli a free header from point blank range.
2. If it's the header I think you were referring to, the Bauer header wasn't cleared off the line. Ajose got in a tangle and missed it completely when it would have been easier to score. It was always going wide of the far post (we were right in line).
3. Konsa actually took the ball cleanly. From the side, not behind. But a risky tackle I guess.
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There was also the Botaka shot which deflected of one of their defenders onto the barjdmotion said:
1. Magennis's shot, technically, rebounded off the post. Had Ajose not been moaning that he hadn't been passed to, he might have pounced on it for the equaliser.LenGlover said:Posting without reading.
The total Charlton end product comprised 1. a Magennis shot glancing the post, a deflection against the cross bar and 2. a Bauer header cleared off the line. That was it. Positively Sladeesque if that is not a contradiction in terms!
As isSlade's3. A clumsy foul by Konsa and a free kick whereby the Charlton defence played 'after you Claude' and allowed Trafazolli a free header from point blank range.
2. If it's the header I think you were referring to, the Bauer header wasn't cleared off the line. Ajose got in a tangle and missed it completely when it would have been easier to score. It was always going wide of the far post (we were right in line).
3. Konsa actually took the ball cleanly. From the side, not behind. But a risky tackle I guess.0 -
Has Nugent left the club? Having started to turn the oil tanker perhaps KR should take his advice on how it is done rather than mouthing silly platitudes to the Press.1
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Today was the day I became totally convinced that there was 0% chance of promotion this season.oohaahmortimer said:I still think the league is pony and if we get a few new manager bounces we can be in the mix !!!
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If it's any consolation then we are equally pessimistic about Wednesday night. Just have a browse on one of our sites. We're not confident. Which is rare for a game v Charlton.0
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Thanks Crusty54, I stand corrected.Crusty54 said:
Robinson was in the overcoat. He did sit down with the coaches for a while in the second half. At this time nobody was in the technical area.Sam lloyd said:
Who was the tall bloke in the overcoat "managing" the team, whilst KR was sat down holding a piece of paper then ? #genuinelyinterested1StevieG said:
No.harveys gardener said:Is it true as suggested elsewhere that Robbo sat on the bench and O'Laughlin was orchestrating from touchline.
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To be honest, we're all so depressed after yesterday I'm not sure it is any consolation!MillwallFan said:If it's any consolation then we are equally pessimistic about Wednesday night. Just have a browse on one of our sites. We're not confident. Which is rare for a game v Charlton.
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I went yesterday and can honestly say I haven't been so depressed and angry at a game for ages. I have not sworn so much either. Anyway,what I noticed was that there talking on the bench. All the coaches sat there in silence with the occasional comment coming from them. There seemed something wrong with them all.0
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Be prepared for an absolute shitter of a game then if yesterday is anything to go by.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
To be honest, we're all so depressed after yesterday I'm not sure it is any consolation!MillwallFan said:If it's any consolation then we are equally pessimistic about Wednesday night. Just have a browse on one of our sites. We're not confident. Which is rare for a game v Charlton.
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Has a game ever finished -1-1.MillwallFan said:If it's any consolation then we are equally pessimistic about Wednesday night. Just have a browse on one of our sites. We're not confident. Which is rare for a game v Charlton.
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Fear not, even if he has we still have Chris O'Loughlin to guide us to the play-offs with his behind-the-scenes skills and shameless weekly reports back to Roland.sm said:Has Nugent left the club? Having started to turn the oil tanker perhaps KR should take his advice on how it is done rather than mouthing silly platitudes to the Press.
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That was yet another appallingly inept performance. More unforced errors in a match than I can ever remember.
We have been complaining about our powder-puff midfield for years, and yesterday was the pits: Crofts and Ulvestad by-passed again and again. And not always by quickly-worked triangles – just as often by a single Peterborough player advancing with the ball and brushing his opponent aside. Man beats boy. Botaka is another bystander left gawping; not one of our midfield has the guts to sprint ten yards and make a tackle.
Tex and Bauer have average ability for this poor division – yet neither roused himself to challenge a simple cross and header for the first goal. Konsa floundered badly in the second half, and Fox had another pitifully wretched game, littered with misplaced passes and hoofs to nowhere: basic failures to control the ball.
Lookman is not in any sense an accomplished player. He might skip past an opponent – then inexplicably give the ball away. You can see the cogs whirring in his head when he approaches the box, decision delayed by a vital instant: dispossessed. Wrong moves all over the pitch, turning into trouble when an option was open. More than once in the second half we had the ball with three men on the left wing and only one in the 18-yard box.
Magennis had an unusually weak game: a pass across goal would have been wiser than his shot against the post from a tight angle. Botaka's deflected shot hit the bar – yet the official stats confirm we had not one single attempt on target in the whole 90 minutes. Magennis headed down for Ajose, unchallenged 10 yards out, who blasted the ball into the stands. Again.
When Edwards sliced through our central midfield and defence, leaving three players for dead and rifling a hard shot past Phillips, we in the Covered End broke into spontaneous applause. Skill, power and accuracy – can you imagine any of our players being capable of that?
And a final flourish in the last minute: Lookman steps up to take a free-kick, slips over, and the ball dribbles 10 yards to an opponent. Pure slapstick.
New manager: four games, no wins, one goal. We are a rag-bag bunch of buskers: individually weak and collectively clueless. We need better players – urgently.
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Your flights of fancy have been getting closer and closer to the mark Viewfinder. Spot on.Viewfinder said:That was yet another appallingly inept performance. More unforced errors in a match than I can ever remember.
We have been complaining about our powder-puff midfield for years, and yesterday was the pits: Crofts and Ulvestad by-passed again and again. And not always by quickly-worked triangles – just as often by a single Peterborough player advancing with the ball and brushing his opponent aside. Man beats boy. Botaka is another bystander left gawping; not one of our midfield has the guts to sprint ten yards and make a tackle.
Tex and Bauer have average ability for this poor division – yet neither roused himself to challenge a simple cross and header for the first goal. Konsa floundered badly in the second half, and Fox had another pitifully wretched game, littered with misplaced passes and hoofs to nowhere: basic failures to control the ball.
Lookman is not in any sense an accomplished player. He might skip past an opponent – then inexplicably give the ball away. You can see the cogs whirring in his head when he approaches the box, decision delayed by a vital instant: dispossessed. Wrong moves all over the pitch, turning into trouble when an option was open. More than once in the second half we had the ball with three men on the left wing and only one in the 18-yard box.
Magennis had an unusually weak game: a pass across goal would have been wiser than his shot against the post from a tight angle. Botaka's deflected shot hit the bar – yet the official stats confirm we had not one single attempt on target in the whole 90 minutes. Magennis headed down for Ajose, unchallenged 10 yards out, who blasted the ball into the stands. Again.
When Edwards sliced through our central midfield and defence, leaving three players for dead and rifling a hard shot past Phillips, we in the Covered End broke into spontaneous applause. Skill, power and accuracy – can you imagine any of our players being capable of that?
And a final flourish in the last minute: Lookman steps up to take a free-kick, slips over, and the ball dribbles 10 yards to an opponent. Pure slapstick.
New manager: four games, no wins, one goal. We are a rag-bag bunch of buskers: individually weak and collectively clueless. We need better players – urgently.3
