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Who Would You Keep From Our Squad For Next Season?

JamesSeedJamesSeed
in General Charlton
So there'll be an inevitable clear out at the end of the season, with the club desperately trying to unload misfits, and loans returning to their clubs of origin. And will Roland be cashing in on the likes of Aribo and Konsa?
Everybody knows stability is massively important in football, but it's something we won't be getting under the current ownership.
Who do you think we'll be keeping from the following list? And who would you like to keep? I'm sure we'd all like to keep Mavididi, for example, but barring a miracle, that's pretty unlikely...

1. Declan Rudd
2. Lewis Page
3. Adam Chicksen
4. Johnnie Jackson
5. Patrick Bauer
6. Roger Johnson
7. Tony Watt
8. Andrew Crofts
9. Josh Magennis
11. Ricky Holmes
12. Stephy Mavididi
13. Dillon Phillips
14. Jordan Botaka
15. Ezri Konsa
16. Jason Pearce
17. Fredrik Ulvestad
18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant
19. Jake Forster-Caskey
20. Chris Solly
21. Nathan Byrne
25. Ahmed Kashi
26. Harry Lennon
27. Dimitar Mitov
30. Lee Novak
32. Joe Aribo
35. George Lapslie
36. Jay Dasilva
42. Jordan Beeney
50. Jorge Teixeira

Out on loan:
Igor Vetokele on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season
Naby Sarr on loan at Red Star FC until the end of the 2016/17 season
Cristian Ceballos on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season
Brandon Hanlan on loan at Bromley until February 18th
Terell Thomas on loan at Woking until the end of the 2016/17 season
Josh Umerah on loan at Kilmarnock until the end of the 2016/17 season
Nicky Ajose on loan at Swindon Town until the end of the 2016/17 season
Regan Charles-Cook on loan at Solihull Moors until the end of the 2016/17 season
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  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    edited February 2017
    Our Players
    Bauer | Crofts | Magennis | Holmes | Phillips | Pearce | Forster-Caskey | Solly | Teixeira | Vetokele | Ajose | Chicksen | Page

    Loan Players made Permament
    Rudd | Ulvestad | Byrne

    I've ignored Mavididi as dont see us keeping him next season whilst I've not included any of the kids (or Konsa and Aribo as reckon they'll be gone by January at the latest) - Also think that Jackson will retire yet if not I'd keep him around
  • JamesSeedJamesSeed
    edited February 2017
    Shows exactly what a mess we're in under the current owner.

    The players I would really like to keep in bold. Only five, or six with Solly?

    1. Declan Rudd Loan over
    2. Lewis Page
    3. Adam Chicksen
    4. Johnnie Jackson Coaching duties
    5. Patrick Bauer Not sure. Keep?
    6. Roger Johnson
    7. Tony Watt Sell
    8. Andrew Crofts Contract expired
    9. Josh Magennis
    11. Ricky Holmes
    12. Stephy Mavididi Loan over
    13. Dillon Phillips
    14. Jordan Botaka Loan over but I would extend
    15. Ezri Konsa They'll probably cash in
    16. Jason Pearce
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad Loan over
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey Doesn't look happy. Not sure.
    20. Chris Solly
    21. Nathan Byrne Loan over
    25. Ahmed Kashi Return from injury?
    26. Harry Lennon Sell
    27. Dimitar Mitov
    30. Lee Novak Sell
    32. Joe Aribo They'll probably cash in
    35. George Lapslie
    36. Jay DasilvaLoan over
    42. Jordan Beeney
    50. Jorge TeixeiraWill try to sell

    Igor Vetokele Either loan extend or sell?
    Naby Sarr Either loan extend or sell?
    Cristian Ceballos Either loan extend or sell?
    Brandon Hanlan Return from loan?
    Terell Thomas Return from loan?
    Josh Umerah Return from loan?
    Nicky Ajose Sell?
    Regan Charles-Cook Return from loan?
  • johnnybev1987johnnybev1987
    edited February 2017
    I will answer based on whether i feel they are good enough/ show enough. Still they might get sold/ loans over but i wont factor that in.

    1. Declan Rudd- Yes as no1
    2. Lewis Page- Too early to say, will reserve judgement
    3. Adam Chicksen - Yes
    4. Johnnie Jackson - As a impact sub / coach
    5. Patrick Bauer - Yes
    6. Roger Johnson - Hell no
    7. Tony Watt- Squad player, still think there is something about him or if he finds form/fitness
    8. Andrew Crofts- Yes
    9. Josh Magennis- Yes not main striker though
    11. Ricky Holmes- Yes
    12. Stephy Mavididi- Yes , very unlikely
    13. Dillon Phillips - Yes
    14. Jordan Botaka - Yes - Squad player
    15. Ezri Konsa- Yes
    16. Jason Pearce-Yes
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad- No
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- Not bothered
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey- Yes
    20. Chris Solly- Yes
    21. Nathan Byrne- Yes
    25. Ahmed Kashi- If he ever gets fit, well see
    26. Harry Lennon - Dont feel up to it
    27. Dimitar Mitov - Yes
    30. Lee Novak- No
    32. Joe Aribo- Yes
    35. George Lapslie- Yes
    36. Jay Dasilva - Who knows, not given a chance
    42. Jordan Beeney - Loan out
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Yes

    Squad looks good on paper just need to find the right mix/ formation and maybe a couple of starters shouldn't be.

    Igor Vetokele - Keep, if fit would be no 1 striker
    Naby Sarr Just go
    Cristian Ceballos - Do one!
    Brandon Hanlan Loan out/ 5th choice striker
    Terell Thomas - Loan out
    Josh Umerah - Loan out
    Nicky Ajose - Depends on system, if we play 2 up top would work, still feel there is a goalscorer in there in the right team
    Regan Charles-Cook - Yes should be competing for bench really
  • shine166shine166
    johnnybev1987 said:

    I will answer based on whether i feel they are good enough/ show enough. Still they might get sold/ loans over but i wont factor that in.

    1. Declan Rudd- Yes as no1
    2. Lewis Page- Too early to say, will reserve judgement
    3. Adam Chicksen - Yes
    4. Johnnie Jackson - As a impact sub / coach
    5. Patrick Bauer - Yes
    6. Roger Johnson - Hell no
    7. Tony Watt- Squad player, still think there is something about him or if he finds form/fitness
    8. Andrew Crofts- Yes
    9. Josh Magennis- Yes not main striker though
    11. Ricky Holmes- Yes
    12. Stephy Mavididi- Yes , very unlikely
    13. Dillon Phillips - Yes
    14. Jordan Botaka - Yes - Squad player
    15. Ezri Konsa- Yes
    16. Jason Pearce-Yes
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad- No
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- Not bothered
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey- Yes
    20. Chris Solly- Yes
    21. Nathan Byrne- Yes
    25. Ahmed Kashi- If he ever gets fit, well see
    26. Harry Lennon - Dont feel up to it
    27. Dimitar Mitov - Yes
    30. Lee Novak- No
    32. Joe Aribo- Yes
    35. George Lapslie- Yes
    36. Jay Dasilva - Who knows, not given a chance
    42. Jordan Beeney - Loan out
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Yes

    Squad looks good on paper just need to find the right mix/ formation and maybe a couple of starters shouldn't be.

    Igor Vetokele - Keep, if fit would be no 1 striker
    Naby Sarr Just go
    Cristian Ceballos - Do one!
    Brandon Hanlan Loan out/ 5th choice striker
    Terell Thomas - Loan out
    Josh Umerah - Loan out
    Nicky Ajose - Depends on system, if we play 2 up top would work, still feel there is a goalscorer in there in the right team
    Regan Charles-Cook - Yes should be competing for bench really



    You can't keep players that you don't own ! Long story short, we're fucked next season.
  • johnnybev1987johnnybev1987
    edited February 2017


    You can't keep players that you don't own ! Long story short, we're fucked next season.

    I have said if it was my choice, obviously the loans are not our players. likewise if we have any offers for players they will be gone, its all hypothetical really so i just thought i would comment whether i would keep them or not...

  • shine166shine166
    I'd just take it as certain that anyone on loan, will not want to come back
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    edited February 2017
    Who was the last player to sign on loan and then join on a permanent basis?

    Hasn't happened under the current ownership has it...
  • cafc_harrycafc_harry
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Who was the last player to sign on loan and then join on a permanent basis?

    Hasn't happened under the current ownership has it...

    If they didn't manage to get Bulot in after his loan I'm not expecting much for anyone else.
  • cafckevcafckev
    JamesSeed said:



    1. Declan Rudd - Buy him
    2. Lewis Page - Keep
    3. Adam - keep
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Player/coach
    5. Patrick Bauer - Keep
    6. Roger Johnson - hahahaha
    7. Tony Watt - Keep if does ok till sum
    8. Andrew Crofts - Unsure
    9. Josh Magennis - Keep
    11. Ricky Holmes - Keep
    12. Stephy Mavididi - Not our decision
    13. Dillon Phillips - Keep
    14. Jordan Botaka - No thanks
    15. Ezri Konsa - Keep
    16. Jason Pearce - Keep
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - Keep if possible
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- Keep
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey -Keep
    20. Chris Solly - Keep
    21. Nathan Byrne - Keep
    25. Ahmed Kashi - Keep of fit
    26. Harry Lennon - No thanks
    27. Dimitar Mitov - No thanks
    30. Lee Novak - If noone else comes in
    32. Joe Aribo - Keep
    35. George Lapslie
    36. Jay Dasilva
    42. Jordan Beeney
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Keep


  • Addick AddictAddick Addict
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Who was the last player to sign on loan and then join on a permanent basis?

    Hasn't happened under the current ownership has it...

    Basically for three reasons - they don't want to stay or they aren't good enough or, the most important of all, it does not suit the owner's business model to have players on long term contracts. Unless, that is, there is a potential to sell them for a big profit as in the case of Gomez and Lookman.
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  • Pedro45Pedro45
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Who was the last player to sign on loan and then join on a permanent basis?

    Hasn't happened under the current ownership has it...

    Johnnie Jackson?
  • HornchurchHornchurch
    What division will we be in?

    Some of this lot wouldn't look out of place in League 2.
  • Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton
    keep

    Rudd, Page, Chicksen, Bauer, Magennis, Holmes, Mavididi, Phillips, Konsa, Pearce, Forster-Caskey, Solly, Aribo, Vetekele, Ajose

    Send on loan for season,
    KAG, Lapslie, Beeney, Mitov, Hanlan, Thomas, Umerah, Charles-Cook.

    Subject to fitness I would keep Kashi and I would keep Jackson as a coach.

    10 new ones in.

    That being said, big change is rarely good!
  • NicholasNicholas
    edited February 2017
    1. Declan Rudd - Sign him but they wont
    2. Lewis Page - What I've seen so far averege league 1 player, need to see more
    3. Adam Chicksen - Another averege player
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Get rid
    5. Patrick Bauer - Keep but we wont
    6. Roger Johnson - Get rid
    7. Tony Watt - Get rid
    8. Andrew Crofts - Get rid
    9. Josh Magennis - keep
    11. Ricky Holmes - Keep
    12. Stephy Mavididi - Going back to Arsenal
    13. Dillon Phillips - Keep
    14. Jordan Botaka - Send home
    15. Ezri Konsa - Keep but will be sold
    16. Jason Pearce - Keep
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - Send home
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - Get rid
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey - Send home
    20. Chris Solly - Keep as back up
    21. Nathan Byrne - same as page
    25. Ahmed Kashi - Get rid
    26. Harry Lennon - Keep
    27. Dimitar Mitov - Keep
    30. Lee Novak Get rid
    32. Joe Aribo Keep but will be solf
    35. George Lapslie - Dunno
    36. Jay Dasilva - Send home
    42. Jordan Beeney - Dunno
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Keep but will be sold

    Going to need a fair few players again in the summer, but we do every year, Look forward to seeing the next average bunch of unfit, untried and god damn useless players to come in next season.
  • JamesSeedJamesSeed
    The truth is that Millwall have all the continuity we lack, and pick an unchanged team as often as they can.
  • dizzeedizzee
    Johnnie Jackson - Coaching role
    Patrick Bauer
    Josh Magennis
    Ricky Holmes
    Ezri Konsa
    Jake Forster-Caskey
    Chris Solly
    Joe Aribo
    Jorge Teixeira
  • LenGloverLenGlover
    1. Declan Rudd - Would keep but not up to us
    2. Lewis Page - Keep if nothing better coming through
    3. Adam Chicksen - Keep if nothing better coming through
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Would like as a backroom boy
    5. Patrick Bauer - Keep
    6. Roger Johnson - Get rid
    7. Tony Watt - Talented but don't see him doing it so get rid
    8. Andrew Crofts - Keep if he has the right players alongside him ie runners with energy
    9. Josh Magennis - Keep
    11. Ricky Holmes - Keep
    12. Stephy Mavididi - Would keep but not up to us
    13. Dillon Phillips - Keep
    14. Jordan Botaka - Had his moments but inconsistent get rid
    15. Ezri Konsa - Would keep but Roland will sell
    16. Jason Pearce - Keep subject to fitness
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - Not our player send back
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - Keep I think there is a player there
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey - Too early to judge get rid on what I've seen
    20. Chris Solly - Keep
    21. Nathan Byrne - Would keep but not up to us
    25. Ahmed Kashi Get rid
    26. Harry Lennon - Keep
    27. Dimitar Mitov - no idea never seen
    30. Lee Novak - Get rid
    32. Joe Aribo - Would keep but Roland will sell
    35. George Lapslie - Keep
    36. Jay Dasilva - Send back but not up to us anyway
    42. Jordan Beeney - No idea never seen
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Keep






    Out on loan:
    Igor Vetokele on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season
    Naby Sarr on loan at Red Star FC until the end of the 2016/17 season
    Cristian Ceballos on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season
    Brandon Hanlan on loan at Bromley until February 18th
    Terell Thomas on loan at Woking until the end of the 2016/17 season
    Josh Umerah on loan at Kilmarnock until the end of the 2016/17 season
    Nicky Ajose on loan at Swindon Town until the end of the 2016/17 season
    Regan Charles-Cook on loan at Solihull Moors until the end of the 2016/17 season

    Of those out on loan Get rid of Ceballos and Ajose. In reality Vetokele earns too much so will go. Not seen enough of Thomas, Umerah or Charles-Cook to decide. Keep Hanlan and the better of Thomas or Sarr
  • masicatmasicat
    edited February 2017
    Just saying re some of the Watt comments....Lena Zavarone was talented as well.
  • benjest1989benjest1989
    1. Declan Rudd - send back, Phillips unlucky to lose his place
    2. Lewis Page - keep, potentially might improve
    3. Adam Chicksen - Keep
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Coaching role
    5. Patrick Bauer - Sell
    6. Roger Johnson - Release
    7. Tony Watt - Sell
    8. Andrew Crofts - Release
    9. Josh Magennis - Keep
    11. Ricky Holmes - Keep
    12. Stephy Mavididi - No chance of keeping him
    13. Dillon Phillips - Keep
    14. Jordan Botaka - Send Back
    15. Ezri Konsa - Keep if she lets us
    16. Jason Pearce - Keep
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - Send back
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - Sell/Release
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey - Keep
    20. Chris Solly - Keep
    21. Nathan Byrne - Send Back
    25. Ahmed Kashi - release, 2 years out injured, in Dubai for most of it
    26. Harry Lennon - Sell
    27. Dimitar Mitov - Keep
    30. Lee Novak - Sell
    32. Joe Aribo - Keep
    35. George Lapslie - Loan out
    36. Jay Dasilva - Send Back
    42. Jordan Beeney - Loan out
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Sell

    So we will have roughly a squad of about 15 come the summer
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  • jonseventyfivejonseventyfive
    Loads leaving and plenty of players I need to look up arriving no doubt, those who simply not bothered either way must go.
  • SWEnglandAddickSWEnglandAddick
    ... 1. Declan Rudd
    2. Lewis Page
    3. Adam Chicksen
    4. Johnnie Jackson
    5. Patrick Bauer
    6. Roger Johnson
    7. Tony Watt
    8. And    Rew Crofts
    9. J    Osh Magennis
    11. Ricky Ho    Lmes
    12. Stephy M    Avididi
    13. Dillo    N Phillips
    14. Jor    Dan Botaka
    15. Ezri Konsa
    16. Jas    On Pearce
    17. Fredrik     Ulvestad
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Gran    T
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey
    20. Chris Solly
    21. Nathan Byrne
    25. Ahmed Kashi
    26. Harry Lennon
    27. Dimitar Mitov
    30. Lee Novak
    32. Joe Aribo
    35. George Lapslie
    36. Jay Dasilva
    42. Jordan Beeney
    50. Jorge Teixeira

    I see what you did there :wink::sweat_smile:
  • WestCountryAddickWestCountryAddick
    edited February 2017
    1. Declan Rudd
    2. Lewis Page
    3. Adam Chicksen
    4. Johnnie Jackson
    5. Patrick Bauer
    6. Roger Johnson
    7. Tony Watt
    8. Andrew Crofts
    9. Josh Magennis
    11. Ricky Holmes
    12. Stephy Mavididi
    13. Dillon Phillips
    14. Jordan Botaka
    15. Ezri Konsa
    16. Jason Pearce
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey
    20. Chris Solly
    21. Nathan Byrne
    25. Ahmed Kashi
    26. Harry Lennon
    27. Dimitar Mitov
    30. Lee Novak
    32. Joe Aribo
    35. George Lapslie
    36. Jay Dasilva
    42. Jordan Beeney
    50. Jorge Teixeira

    The ones in bold are the players I'd expect to see in and around the first team regularly (either starting or on the bench), the rest are useful squad players or promising youngsters. The ones struck out are either loanees who will go or players we should get shot of. I'd bring Igor and Ajose back and give them both another chance. I'd get rid of Sarr and Cellabos but keep the rest we have out on loan as they are still kids and have much to learn. I wouldn't want the youngsters in the head count for the main squad however. Lapslie and Beeney still have a lot to do to prove they can make it, but I think they have a chance.
  • StigThundercockStigThundercock
    Assuming we are still in League 1

    1. Declan Rudd - not up to us
    8. Andrew Crofts - as squad player
    9. Josh Magennis
    11. Ricky Holmes
    12. Stephy Mavididi - not up to us
    13. Dillon Phillips
    15. Ezri Konsa
    16. Jason Pearce
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - as squad player
    20. Chris Solly - as squad player
    25. Ahmed Kashi - on the very feint chance he's ever fit again
    26. Harry Lennon - as back up
    27. Dimitar Mitov
    32. Joe Aribo
    35. George Lapslie - dunno haven't seen him play
    36. Jay Dasilva - dunno haven't seen him play
    42. Jordan Beeney - dunno haven't seen him play
    50. Jorge Teixeira - fanciful notion when he's on 12k/wk

    Out on loan:
    Igor Vetokele
    Brandon Hanlan
    Terell Thomas - dunno haven't seen him play
    Josh Umerah - dunno haven't seen him play
    Regan Charles-Cook
  • ScohamScoham
    benjest1989 said:

    So we will have roughly a squad of about 15 come the summer

    And we'll make 6-8 signings and with a few injuries it'll be the turn of Lapslie, Charles-Cook etc who are thrown into the team regardless of whether they're ready to play regularly. Same every season with Roland.
  • ricky_ottoricky_otto
    edited February 2017
    1. Declan Rudd - No
    2. Lewis Page - Yes
    3. Adam Chicksen - Yes
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Yes (coach)
    5. Patrick Bauer - Yes
    6. Roger Johnson - No
    7. Tony Watt - Yes
    8. Andrew Crofts - Yes
    9. Josh Magennis - Yes
    11. Ricky Holmes -Yes
    12. Stephy Mavididi - No
    13. Dillon Phillips- Yes
    14. Jordan Botaka - No
    15. Ezri Konsa - Yes
    16. Jason Pearce - Unsure
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - No
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - No
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey- No
    20. Chris Solly - Yes
    21. Nathan Byrne - Yes
    25. Ahmed Kashi - No
    26. Harry Lennon - NO
    27. Dimitar Mitov - No
    30. Lee Novak - Unsure
    32. Joe Aribo - Yes
    35. George Lapslie - Yes
    36. Jay Dasilva - No
    42. Jordan Beeney - Don't care
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Yes

    Out on loan:
    Igor Vetokele on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season - No
    Naby Sarr on loan at Red Star FC until the end of the 2016/17 season - No
    Cristian Ceballos on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season - No
    Brandon Hanlan on loan at Bromley until February 18th - Yes
    Terell Thomas on loan at Woking until the end of the 2016/17 season - Unsure
    Josh Umerah on loan at Kilmarnock until the end of the 2016/17 season - Yes
    Nicky Ajose on loan at Swindon Town until the end of the 2016/17 season - No
    Regan Charles-Cook on loan at Solihull Moors until the end of the 2016/17 season - Yes
  • ScohamScoham
    Scoham said:

    benjest1989 said:

    So we will have roughly a squad of about 15 come the summer

    And we'll make 6-8 signings and with a few injuries it'll be the turn of Lapslie, Charles-Cook etc who are thrown into the team regardless of whether they're ready to play regularly. Same every season with Roland.
    http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/karl-robinson-i-don-t-mind-upsetting-people-if-it-helps-make-charlton-successful-a3474891.html

    "He is not writing off this season yet but already has one eye on rebuilding in the summer, when he wants “seven or eight” new signings."

    Slade also knew how many he wanted.
  • mogodonmogodon
    He's already making excuses for the rest of the season, which is a bit of a worry. Or is that simply him covering his own backside in the hope Roland buys into his ongoing bullishness?
  • sam3110sam3110
    1. Declan Rudd NO
    2. Lewis Page NO
    3. Adam Chicksen YES
    4. Johnnie Jackson NO
    5. Patrick Bauer YES
    6. Roger Johnson NO
    7. Tony Watt NO
    8. Andrew Crofts YES
    9. Josh Magennis YES
    11. Ricky Holmes YES
    12. Stephy Mavididi YES
    13. Dillon Phillips YES
    14. Jordan Botaka NO
    15. Ezri Konsa YES
    16. Jason Pearce YES
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad NO
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant YES
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey YES
    20. Chris Solly YES
    21. Nathan Byrne YES
    25. Ahmed Kashi NO
    26. Harry Lennon NO
    27. Dimitar Mitov YES
    30. Lee Novak NO
    32. Joe Aribo YES
    35. George Lapslie YES
    36. Jay Dasilva NO
    42. Jordan Beeney YES
    50. Jorge Teixeira YES

    Out on loan:
    Igor Vetokele YES
    Naby Sarr YES
    Cristian Ceballos YES
    Brandon Hanlan YES
    Terell Thomas YES
    Josh Umerah YES
    Nicky Ajose YES
    Regan Charles-Cook YES
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    @Sam3110 is your reasoning behind sending back Rudd because of the emergence of Phillips?
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