* = don't think we'll be able to keep them but should if we can (e.g. loanees)
1. Declan Rudd* 2. Lewis Page 3. Adam Chicksen 4. Johnnie Jackson (but keep at club if possible) 5. Patrick Bauer 6. Roger Johnson 7. Tony Watt 8. Andrew Crofts 9. Josh Magennis 11. Ricky Holmes 12. Stephy Mavididi* 13. Dillon Phillips 14. Jordan Botaka* 15. Ezri Konsa 16. Jason Pearce 17. Fredrik Ulvestad* 18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant 19. Jake Forster-Caskey 20. Chris Solly 21. Nathan Byrne* 25. Ahmed Kashi 26. Harry Lennon 27. Dimitar Mitov 30. Lee Novak 32. Joe Aribo 35. George Lapslie 36. Jay Dasilva 42. Jordan Beeney 50. Jorge Teixeira
Out on loan: Igor Vetokele Naby Sarr Cristian Ceballos Brandon Hanlan Terell Thomas Josh Umerah Nicky Ajose Regan Charles-Cook Mikhail Kennedy
1. Declan Rudd- Loan over - gone but KM will say that she tried to sign him (reality is that his wages will be to high) 2. Lewis Page- Yes 3. Adam Chicksen - Yes 4. Johnnie Jackson - coach 5. Patrick Bauer - Yes 6. Roger Johnson - Gone 7. Tony Watt- Still here as no one else will touch him 8. Andrew Crofts- Yes 9. Josh Magennis- Sold 11. Ricky Holmes- Yes 12. Stephy Mavididi- Loan over 13. Dillon Phillips - Yes new 1st choice keeper 14. Jordan Botaka - Loan over 15. Ezri Konsa- Sold 16. Jason Pearce-Yes 17. Fredrik Ulvestad- Loan over 18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- squad player 19. Jake Forster-Caskey- Yes 20. Chris Solly- Yes 21. Nathan Byrne- Loan over 25. Ahmed Kashi- still injured but training in Dubai 26. Harry Lennon - sold 27. Dimitar Mitov - 2nd choice keeper 30. Lee Novak- let go on a free 32. Joe Aribo- sold 35. George Lapslie- Yes 36. Jay Dasilva - loan over 42. Jordan Beeney - squad player 50. Jorge Teixeira - released by mutual consent
Squad looks good on paper just need to find the right mix/ formation and maybe a couple of starters shouldn't be.
Igor Vetokele - stays at St.Truiden Naby Sarr - After being found wanting in the French 2nd division he will be back Cristian Ceballos - stays at St.Truiden Brandon Hanlan - Starting Striker as his wages are cheap Terell Thomas - squad player Josh Umerah - Starting Striker as his wages are cheap Nicky Ajose - sold Regan Charles-Cook - Starting midfielder as his wages are cheap
1. Declan Rudd- Loan over - gone not fussed to error prone 2. Lewis Page- Yes 3. Adam Chicksen - Yes 4. Johnnie Jackson - coach 5. Patrick Bauer - Gone won't want to be a t this level club will be happy to rid of wages 6. Roger Johnson - Gone 7. Tony Watt- gone Will want to go and club will want rid of wages 8. Andrew Crofts- Yes 9. Josh Magennis- Yes 11. Ricky Holmes- Yes 12. Stephy Mavididi- Loan over 13. Dillon Phillips - Yes new 1st choice keeper 14. Jordan Botaka - Gone 15. Ezri Konsa- Yes 16. Jason Pearce-Yes 17. Fredrik Ulvestad- Loan over 18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- squad player 19. Jake Forster-Caskey- Yes 20. Chris Solly- Yes 21. Nathan Byrne- Loan over 25. Ahmed kashi gone agreement with club 26. Harry Lennon - sold 27. Dimitar Mitov - 2nd choice keeper 30. Lee Novak- yes 32. Joe Aribo- yes 35. George Lapslie- Yes 36. Jay Dasilva - loan over 42. Jordan Beeney - squad player 50. Jorge Teixeira - released by mutual consent
Igor Vetokele - Yes Naby Sarr - Loaned out again Cristian Ceballos - As above Brandon Hanlan - Yes Terell Thomas - yes Josh Umerah - Yes Nicky Ajose - gone if KR still charge Regan Charles cook yes
A timely thread, given that we’re virtually condemned to another season in L1, but I think it’s less a case of ‘Who Would You Keep’, and more to do with ‘Who will Be Kept’. In no particular order:
Rudd – maybe deserves a crack at a mid-table Championship side and, as likely as not, wouldn’t want to stay anyway. I doubt if Roland would stump up the cash either.
Magennis – I wonder, with NI doing well in their group, if he might think he stands a better chance in the N Irish team if he plays Championship football next season? Anyway, would he really want the thankless task of leading the line again for another long season in L1 with Karl’s 4-2-3-1? I reckon he himself might look to move on. He’s also one of many players included below:
(Magennis), Phillips, Lennon, Kashi, Ricky Holmes, Tony Watt: All have their contracts up at the end of 17/18. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d have thought it standard practice, with a season left, for a club to either renew the contract or sell in order to recoup some of the cost. Luckily, of course, we have the world’s greatest CEO, and contract negotiations are, apparently, Katy’s forte. Maybe we’ll try to hang on to Josh, Ricky & Phillips? How and to whom they off-load Watt will be interesting.
Contracts up at the end of the season are : RJ, Chicksen, Crofts, JJ, Ulvested, Botaka, Byrne, da Silva, Mavididi and Mitov (the latter with a one year option)… Maybe they’ll try and keep Crofts; JJ as an impact sub/coach (but pretty soon we’ll have more coaches than players); take the option on Mitov to cover Phillips and the rest out. Wouldn't put it past Katy to sign RJ until 2025!!!
That leaves a host of players contracted to 2019: Bauer and Tex (2020) – both the result of Katy’s shrewd negotiations of course; Solly (2020), Pearce, Page, JFC, Aribo, KAG; and the deadweights of Novak, Ajose, Sarr (2020)and Vetokele.
I omitted Konsa from the above – he and Aribo could probably use another season at least to mature before they’re sold on, but Roland’s gonna have to balance the books somehow.
All in all, a pretty grim picture emerges of what lies in store in the summer, and basically it looks like another huge re-build of the squad.
It's a very complex question given the number of loans and contractual status. Therefore I am going to answer in very simple terms - would I like to see this player here next year on the evidence of what I've seen? Yes, no or not bothered. What I actually think will happen is a very different matter.
1. Declan Rudd - not bothered 2. Lewis Page - yes (just, but might be a clown) 3. Adam Chicksen - no 4. Johnnie Jackson - yes but in a non playing capacity 5. Patrick Bauer - yes 6. Roger Johnson - no 7. Tony Watt - yes 8. Andrew Crofts - no 9. Josh Magennis - yes (just. Don't think he's as good as folk think) 11. Ricky Holmes - yes but same as Josh above 12. Stephy Mavididi - yes 13. Dillon Phillips - yes 14. Jordan Botaka - yes 15. Ezri Konsa - yes 16. Jason Pearce - not bothered 17. Fredrik Ulvestad - no 18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - no 19. Jake Forster-Caskey - no 20. Chris Solly - yes 21. Nathan Byrne - not bothered 25. Ahmed Kashi - no 26. Harry Lennon - no 27. Dimitar Mitov - not bothered 30. Lee Novak - no 32. Joe Aribo - yes 35. George Lapslie dunno never seen him 36. Jay Dasilva - no 42. Jordan Beeney - dunno never seen him 50. Jorge Teixeira - not bothered
Out on loan: Igor Vetokele on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season - no Naby Sarr on loan at Red Star FC until the end of the 2016/17 season - no Cristian Ceballos on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season - no Brandon Hanlan on loan at Bromley until February 18th - no Terell Thomas on loan at Woking until the end of the 2016/17 season - dunno, never seen him Josh Umerah on loan at Kilmarnock until the end of the 2016/17 season - no Nicky Ajose on loan at Swindon Town until the end of the 2016/17 season - no Regan Charles-Cook on loan at Solihull Moors until the end of the 2016/17 season - yes
Comments
1. Declan Rudd*2. Lewis Page
3. Adam Chicksen
4. Johnnie Jackson(but keep at club if possible)5. Patrick Bauer
6. Roger Johnson7. Tony Watt8. Andrew Crofts
9. Josh Magennis
11. Ricky Holmes
12. Stephy Mavididi*13. Dillon Phillips
14. Jordan Botaka*15. Ezri Konsa
16. Jason Pearce
17. Fredrik Ulvestad*18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant
19. Jake Forster-Caskey
20. Chris Solly
21. Nathan Byrne*25. Ahmed Kashi26. Harry Lennon
27. Dimitar Mitov
30. Lee Novak
32. Joe Aribo
35. George Lapslie
36. Jay Dasilva42. Jordan Beeney
50. Jorge TeixeiraOut on loan:
Igor VetokeleNaby SarrCristian CeballosBrandon Hanlan
Terell Thomas
Josh Umerah
Nicky AjoseRegan Charles-Cook
Mikhail Kennedy
Not a lot left after that...
1. Declan Rudd- Loan over - gone but KM will say that she tried to sign him (reality is that his wages will be to high)
2. Lewis Page- Yes
3. Adam Chicksen - Yes
4. Johnnie Jackson - coach
5. Patrick Bauer - Yes
6. Roger Johnson - Gone
7. Tony Watt- Still here as no one else will touch him
8. Andrew Crofts- Yes
9. Josh Magennis- Sold
11. Ricky Holmes- Yes
12. Stephy Mavididi- Loan over
13. Dillon Phillips - Yes new 1st choice keeper
14. Jordan Botaka - Loan over
15. Ezri Konsa- Sold
16. Jason Pearce-Yes
17. Fredrik Ulvestad- Loan over
18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- squad player
19. Jake Forster-Caskey- Yes
20. Chris Solly- Yes
21. Nathan Byrne- Loan over
25. Ahmed Kashi- still injured but training in Dubai
26. Harry Lennon - sold
27. Dimitar Mitov - 2nd choice keeper
30. Lee Novak- let go on a free
32. Joe Aribo- sold
35. George Lapslie- Yes
36. Jay Dasilva - loan over
42. Jordan Beeney - squad player
50. Jorge Teixeira - released by mutual consent
Squad looks good on paper just need to find the right mix/ formation and maybe a couple of starters shouldn't be.
Igor Vetokele - stays at St.Truiden
Naby Sarr - After being found wanting in the French 2nd division he will be back
Cristian Ceballos - stays at St.Truiden
Brandon Hanlan - Starting Striker as his wages are cheap
Terell Thomas - squad player
Josh Umerah - Starting Striker as his wages are cheap
Nicky Ajose - sold
Regan Charles-Cook - Starting midfielder as his wages are cheap
1. Declan Rudd- Loan over - gone not fussed to error prone
2. Lewis Page- Yes
3. Adam Chicksen - Yes
4. Johnnie Jackson - coach
5. Patrick Bauer - Gone won't want to be a t this level club will be happy to rid of wages
6. Roger Johnson - Gone
7. Tony Watt- gone Will want to go and club will want rid of wages
8. Andrew Crofts- Yes
9. Josh Magennis- Yes
11. Ricky Holmes- Yes
12. Stephy Mavididi- Loan over
13. Dillon Phillips - Yes new 1st choice keeper
14. Jordan Botaka - Gone
15. Ezri Konsa- Yes
16. Jason Pearce-Yes
17. Fredrik Ulvestad- Loan over
18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant- squad player
19. Jake Forster-Caskey- Yes
20. Chris Solly- Yes
21. Nathan Byrne- Loan over
25. Ahmed kashi gone agreement with club
26. Harry Lennon - sold
27. Dimitar Mitov - 2nd choice keeper
30. Lee Novak- yes
32. Joe Aribo- yes
35. George Lapslie- Yes
36. Jay Dasilva - loan over
42. Jordan Beeney - squad player
50. Jorge Teixeira - released by mutual consent
Igor Vetokele - Yes
Naby Sarr - Loaned out again
Cristian Ceballos - As above
Brandon Hanlan - Yes
Terell Thomas - yes
Josh Umerah - Yes
Nicky Ajose - gone if KR still charge
Regan Charles cook yes
Rudd – maybe deserves a crack at a mid-table Championship side and, as likely as not, wouldn’t want to stay anyway. I doubt if Roland would stump up the cash either.
Magennis – I wonder, with NI doing well in their group, if he might think he stands a better chance in the N Irish team if he plays Championship football next season? Anyway, would he really want the thankless task of leading the line again for another long season in L1 with Karl’s 4-2-3-1? I reckon he himself might look to move on. He’s also one of many players included below:
(Magennis), Phillips, Lennon, Kashi, Ricky Holmes, Tony Watt: All have their contracts up at the end of 17/18. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d have thought it standard practice, with a season left, for a club to either renew the contract or sell in order to recoup some of the cost. Luckily, of course, we have the world’s greatest CEO, and contract negotiations are, apparently, Katy’s forte. Maybe we’ll try to hang on to Josh, Ricky & Phillips? How and to whom they off-load Watt will be interesting.
Contracts up at the end of the season are : RJ, Chicksen, Crofts, JJ, Ulvested, Botaka, Byrne, da Silva, Mavididi and Mitov (the latter with a one year option)… Maybe they’ll try and keep Crofts; JJ as an impact sub/coach (but pretty soon we’ll have more coaches than players); take the option on Mitov to cover Phillips and the rest out. Wouldn't put it past Katy to sign RJ until 2025!!!
That leaves a host of players contracted to 2019: Bauer and Tex (2020) – both the result of Katy’s shrewd negotiations of course; Solly (2020), Pearce, Page, JFC, Aribo, KAG; and the deadweights of Novak, Ajose, Sarr (2020) and Vetokele.
I omitted Konsa from the above – he and Aribo could probably use another season at least to mature before they’re sold on, but Roland’s gonna have to balance the books somehow.
All in all, a pretty grim picture emerges of what lies in store in the summer, and basically it looks like another huge re-build of the squad.
Thanks for the info from @Scoham 's thread: http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/76615/updated-squad-list-1st-february-2017/p1
1. Declan Rudd - not bothered
2. Lewis Page - yes (just, but might be a clown)
3. Adam Chicksen - no
4. Johnnie Jackson - yes but in a non playing capacity
5. Patrick Bauer - yes
6. Roger Johnson - no
7. Tony Watt - yes
8. Andrew Crofts - no
9. Josh Magennis - yes (just. Don't think he's as good as folk think)
11. Ricky Holmes - yes but same as Josh above
12. Stephy Mavididi - yes
13. Dillon Phillips - yes
14. Jordan Botaka - yes
15. Ezri Konsa - yes
16. Jason Pearce - not bothered
17. Fredrik Ulvestad - no
18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - no
19. Jake Forster-Caskey - no
20. Chris Solly - yes
21. Nathan Byrne - not bothered
25. Ahmed Kashi - no
26. Harry Lennon - no
27. Dimitar Mitov - not bothered
30. Lee Novak - no
32. Joe Aribo - yes
35. George Lapslie dunno never seen him
36. Jay Dasilva - no
42. Jordan Beeney - dunno never seen him
50. Jorge Teixeira - not bothered
Out on loan:
Igor Vetokele on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season - no
Naby Sarr on loan at Red Star FC until the end of the 2016/17 season - no
Cristian Ceballos on loan at Sint Truiden until the end of the 2016/17 season - no
Brandon Hanlan on loan at Bromley until February 18th - no
Terell Thomas on loan at Woking until the end of the 2016/17 season - dunno, never seen him
Josh Umerah on loan at Kilmarnock until the end of the 2016/17 season - no
Nicky Ajose on loan at Swindon Town until the end of the 2016/17 season - no
Regan Charles-Cook on loan at Solihull Moors until the end of the 2016/17 season - yes