The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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It's a simple fact that JW wasn't told last February or at any point since that the club was within 48 hours of being sold, and Robinson had his own agenda in March whereas I think Bowyer is rather more straightforward. If the seller is willing to pay the ex-directors in full or the buyer is willing to carry over the loans (perhaps with the same intention) the ex-directors don't get to agree anything at this stage. They can be difficult later if they choose but within parameters. I spoke to one of the loan holders affected yesterday and he believed something was afoot.golfaddick said:fwiw, my take on it all.
JW is being fed stories & we are no nearer being sold than we were last February. Bowyers soundbites in the ES are just the same (almost identical) to that of Gobbinson last march before he walked. Until any of the ex-directors come on here & say that they have agreed a settlement (and we know at least 1 does post updates to that fact) and the EFL have seen proof of funds AND had their FAPT passed then best not think about it. The January transfer window will come & go, we will still be stuck with RD & then talk will be of "when which division we will be in next season is known"...........
As for @jimmyseed's tweet re Gerald Murphy..........same old same old "all down to NDA's I'm afraid old chap - cant say anymore". What a load of crap. LDV regularly spouts drivel such as "The Aussies are still in" or "there are 5 groups including the brits" so GM wouldn't be breaking any NDA to just say wtf is happening.
In the end it hinges on whether the buyers now front up the money and I wouldn't like to predict that, but it's certainly not an exercise in managing supporters, which seems to be the only other explanation being put forward. The issue is the credibility of the buyers and the seller, not the information that is coming out. Why would RD bother to feed JW the idea that the takeover could be done in 48 hours unless he thought it was true? He wouldn't.12 -
I suspect that RD has blinked first and had to swallow a £7m discount to pay off the Directors Loans.7
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Thicker than pigshit which can get quite runny0
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Why would he need to bother doing that?N01R4M said:Am I alone in thinking all of this is just an elaborate way for Roland to create a scenario whereby he can say in February the reason he did not invest in the team during the window was his expectation of an imminent sale, with new owners funding the necessary strengthening?
Remember, Roland thinks he has a superior intellect, and we (like all football fans in his estimation) are thick as pigshit.2 -
Oh look who's back.paulie8290 said:16 -
Just told my son about the renewed takeover chatter ‘yeah dad but it never happens though does it, Roland says ‘oooh I am going to sell’ and then people get all worked up about it but he still owns us.’
Couldn’t argue. Hope it does go through this time. Not holding my breath.13 -
he's never been away from twitter and it's not him posting on here but someone else lifting it from twitter so no, he's not backAdTheAddicK said:
Oh look who's back.paulie8290 said:
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The Fans Forum ('customer engagement') is a great idea if the owners and club management treat it as an opportunity to communicate as openly as possible and address supporter issues. We shouldn't look to throw it away just because Meire used it cynically to tick a box with the EFL and to enable her to be seen to be listening to supporters whilst doing hee-haw about anything other than charging on with her Fans Zone, Fans Bar and other Eurotrash. Her role at Sheffield Wednesday has show that she is a one-trick pony and they have seen through it.GlassHalfFull said:
If a deal really is so near, what is the purpose of the Fans' Forum meeting?5 -
Paulie and others, when you post a twitter link can you also give a brief one liner as a lot of us cant access Twitter at work.1
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Should post on Twitter, late entry to the 2018 DHOTYAAlwaysneil said:Just told my son about the renewed takeover chatter ‘yeah dad but it never happens though does it, Roland says ‘oooh I am going to sell’ and then people get all worked up about it but he still owns us.’
Couldn’t argue. Hope it does go through this time. Not holding my breath.
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I'll believe it when it's signed, sealed and delivered.
Meanwhile, I've heard we have a few players out injured.1 -
Sorry mine was just James Seed responding to golfie on here, I know James is not on here so as he was responding to something Golfie said here I thought I would post it, anyway it was just thisThe_President said:Paulie and others, when you post a twitter link can you also give a brief one liner as a lot of us cant access Twitter at work.
Golfie re NDAs: ‘What a load of crap. LDV regularly spouts drivel such as "Aussies are still in" or "there are 5 groups including the brits" so GM wouldn't be breaking any NDA to just say wtf is happening.’
Golfie, those examples aren’t sensitive info. Why would GM take a risk?1 -
Nice to see James Seed is still lurking on here
What gives me more optimism than with the previous false dawns is the comment from Jim White that Roland has accepted a lower offer (£20 to £30m) as that is a SIGNIFICANT change from before.5 -
The Brenda headlock will get it over the line mateTavern said:Covered End said:
Brenda, can you sort it out before you come back. Thanks.Curb_It said:
Thanks Clive.clive said:For anybody who wants to here what Jim White & Simon Jordan said on the takeover,listen here.
https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1546423200/1546423200/
We’ve got 74 hours left in Australia. Bring it over the line lads!! Love The Aussies right now and this will top it off!!
Taking them out for dinner to negotiate.
Enjoy your holiday loving the snaps6 -
I missed that. did he say thatkillerandflash said:Nice to see James Seed is still lurking on here
What gives me more optimism than with the previous false dawns is the comment from Jim White that Roland has accepted a lower offer (£20 to £30m) as that is a SIGNIFICANT change from before.0 -
I don’t think it’s likely RD has disclosed any info about the price. The way it was presented by JW didn’t suggest to me he knew either.killerandflash said:Nice to see James Seed is still lurking on here
What gives me more optimism than with the previous false dawns is the comment from Jim White that Roland has accepted a lower offer (£20 to £30m) as that is a SIGNIFICANT change from before.1 -
My birthday tomo - they wouldn't wanna hurrybit up for me0
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I have not got contacts as good as Airman, so I hope in my heart he is right and that the end of Roland’s reign is in sight.Scoham said:
Why would he need to bother doing that?N01R4M said:Am I alone in thinking all of this is just an elaborate way for Roland to create a scenario whereby he can say in February the reason he did not invest in the team during the window was his expectation of an imminent sale, with new owners funding the necessary strengthening?
Remember, Roland thinks he has a superior intellect, and we (like all football fans in his estimation) are thick as pigshit.
However, I do know that Roland kicked up quite a fuss with the Belgian press after the exposure they gave last August/September to ROT and the chaotic situation at CAFC.
He is a very big fish in a small pond over there – one of the richest people in the country, the founder of a political party (like Farage), an entrepreneur and frequent TV guest (like Sugar – or maybe a bit more like Gerald Ratner when you consider how he is always talking disparaging about one of Charlton’s greatest assets, its fans!). So his displeasure carries a lot of weight with his domestic media.
Notwithstanding, I am sure he is wary of another wave of poor publicity washing up on his shores. He may be lacking in the empathy and common sense departments, but I am sure he is no intellectual lightweight. If he can see a way of spiking the protesters’ guns (and for sure there will be unrest if he is seen to negate all the efforts of Bowyer & the boys by failing to strengthen the squad this month) then I am sure he will take it – if only as an insurance policy.5 -
Not holding my breath.1
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Heaven help us allLazy_eye_metaphor said:I'll believe it when it's signed, sealed and delivered.
Meanwhile, I've heard we have a few players out injured.0 -
This is my advice to all on here chill don’t hold your breath be prepared to be disappointed and underwhelmedLenGlover said:Not holding my breath.
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Multiple lol'sricky_otto said:
His parents must have called him something?Airman Brown said:
I heard the guy was slightly older then 34, but don't have a name.shirty5 said:
In February 2018 MacDonald was named defendant along with his company GetSwift in a A$300M class action lodged in the Federal Court of Australia for failing to disclose price sensitive information to the public. Shares in his company GetSwift suffered a 67% loss in the two days after the action was announced.[14] The company is contesting the accusation and has separately accused Squire Patton Boggs of overstating the claim to A$300M.[15]sammy391 said:
Joel Macdonald?Airman Brown said:
Younger Aussie in his mid to late 30s, with a background in Aussie Rules.Henry Irving said:My understanding is that's it is new Aussies with a younger bloke being the main money but still linked to the same original bid via Murphy.
My own view is that Duchatelet is still a twat and will dick around with this and any other potential buyers.
White is most likely being fed his info from Roland or his stooges.
There is no 48 or 72 deadline and White never said there was.
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In January 2018 while CEO of GetSwift, Macdonald was accused of misleading the market by overstating revenue forecasts the public and failing to disclose the loss of what GetSwift claimed were not materially significant contracts.[9][10] Macdonald's company GetSwift requested to enter into a voluntary Trading Halt[11] while they responded to questions by the Australian Securities Exchange.[5][12] This is the second time Macdonald's company has been suspended from trade, after the Australian Securities Exchange issued a trading halt and requested more information after the company announced a deal with Amazon.[13]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Macdonald0 -
Disappointed I get. Underwhelmed by the quality of the Aussie owners?nth london addick said:
This is my advice to all on here chill don’t hold your breath be prepared to be disappointed and underwhelmedLenGlover said:Not holding my breath.
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Probably what my Mrs thinks before my 3 seconds of passionnth london addick said:
This is my advice to all on here chill don’t hold your breath be prepared to be disappointed and underwhelmedLenGlover said:Not holding my breath.
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He's blocked me so I couldn't tell ya. If you don't agree with him or question him your blocked. Can't stand people like thatLargeAddick said:
he's never been away from twitter and it's not him posting on here but someone else lifting it from twitter so no, he's not backAdTheAddicK said:
Oh look who's back.paulie8290 said:3 -
Strange name, but I've seen worse.ElfsborgAddick said:
Multiple lol'sricky_otto said:
His parents must have called him something?Airman Brown said:
I heard the guy was slightly older then 34, but don't have a name.shirty5 said:
In February 2018 MacDonald was named defendant along with his company GetSwift in a A$300M class action lodged in the Federal Court of Australia for failing to disclose price sensitive information to the public. Shares in his company GetSwift suffered a 67% loss in the two days after the action was announced.[14] The company is contesting the accusation and has separately accused Squire Patton Boggs of overstating the claim to A$300M.[15]sammy391 said:
Joel Macdonald?Airman Brown said:
Younger Aussie in his mid to late 30s, with a background in Aussie Rules.Henry Irving said:My understanding is that's it is new Aussies with a younger bloke being the main money but still linked to the same original bid via Murphy.
My own view is that Duchatelet is still a twat and will dick around with this and any other potential buyers.
White is most likely being fed his info from Roland or his stooges.
There is no 48 or 72 deadline and White never said there was.
WIOTOS
In January 2018 while CEO of GetSwift, Macdonald was accused of misleading the market by overstating revenue forecasts the public and failing to disclose the loss of what GetSwift claimed were not materially significant contracts.[9][10] Macdonald's company GetSwift requested to enter into a voluntary Trading Halt[11] while they responded to questions by the Australian Securities Exchange.[5][12] This is the second time Macdonald's company has been suspended from trade, after the Australian Securities Exchange issued a trading halt and requested more information after the company announced a deal with Amazon.[13]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Macdonald1 -
Agree with NLA . Prepare to be underwhelmed as they don't appear to be minted 😡 .0
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They can sit tight until Friday as far as I'm concerned as that's my Birthday.Gammon said:My birthday tomo - they wouldn't wanna hurrybit up for me
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Dushitelet will probably still own The Valley.sinceiwasyoung said:Agree with NLA . Prepare to be underwhelmed as they don't appear to be minted 😡 .
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