Varney said a good few years back that Flamini had agreed terms with Charlton and while we were having the contract put together, he went over to Arsenal and signed for them. Told me that face to face the night before we signed Francis Jeffers and Danny Murphy. Nothing is real until it’s officially announced.
Varney said a good few years back that Flamini had agreed terms with Charlton and while we were having the contract put together, he went over to Arsenal and signed for them. Told me that face to face the night before we signed Francis Jeffers and Danny Murphy. Nothing is real until it’s officially announced.
I can't believe there are still people who think we are being "played". The info, as multiple people have said isn't just coming from RD as his lacky. If it is a wind up, it's a bloody good one. The EFL, Jim White, the broker, the aussies, the legal firm. Christ he has gone to a lot of expense and effort to piss a few thousand people off.
LDT..."The reporting of Jim White made the British party aware that they might miss out on the deal and that “put them into sixth gear”....
"Played" has as much validity as "done deal" has...How many times has "done deal" passed us by..?
As has been mentioned before, De Turck would have to be very thick to have planted a false story with Jim White to achieve an outcome and then boasted in an on-the-record public meeting with fans that it had achieved that outcome. I don't think he is that thick and hence no one was "played" in that process. Neither was he JW's source.
The assumption that people have ever been "played" appears to rest on the view that RD's primary interest is in deterring protests or misleading supporters. It would not survive examination of the multiple various parties providing information but it is understandable to some extent since with the obvious exception of Gerard Murphy they have all stayed below the radar. As I've said before, people working at the club, others who know people at the club and random third parties are not credible primary sources and would not be relied upon by me, Rich Cawley, jim White or Giuseppe Muro on the Standard, all of whom to my knowledge have their own credible primary sources and have reported the stories. AFAIK no other journalist has shown they have primary sources on the Charlton takeover since the April 2017 story appeared on Mailonline. Other platforms just recycle what comes out of the club or second-hand material from the ones above.
AFAIK "done deal" has only surfaced once, in February 2018. Mea culpa. That information came from the lawyers and was backed up by someone not party to the deal but who had been involved with RD and was in the loop. The tweet was framed in that way because it is the phrase the club routinely uses for player signings - clearly it was foolish on my part as the information was qualified at the time with the warning there were formalities to conclude and it didn't happen - but I'm not aware of any other serious use of it by anyone. The fact a deal was agreed, however, is proven by the fact that the contract was eventually lodged with the EFL, according to them and on the record.
I can't believe there are still people who think we are being "played". The info, as multiple people have said isn't just coming from RD as his lacky. If it is a wind up, it's a bloody good one. The EFL, Jim White, the broker, the aussies, the legal firm. Christ he has gone to a lot of expense and effort to piss a few thousand people off.
LDT..."The reporting of Jim White made the British party aware that they might miss out on the deal and that “put them into sixth gear”....
"Played" has as much validity as "done deal" has...How many times has "done deal" passed us by..?
As has been mentioned before, De Turck would have to be very thick to have planted a false story with Jim White to achieve an outcome and then boasted in an on-the-record public meeting with fans that it had achieved that outcome. I don't think he is that thick and hence no one was "played" in that process. Neither was he JW's source.
The assumption that people have ever been "played" appears to rest on the view that RD's primary interest is in deterring protests or misleading supporters. It would not survive examination of the multiple various parties providing information but it is understandable to some extent since with the obvious exception of Gerard Murphy they have all stayed below the radar. As I've said before, people working at the club, others who know people at the club and random third parties are not credible primary sources and would not be relied upon by me, Rich Cawley, jim White or Giuseppe Muro on the Standard, all of whom to my knowledge have their own credible primary sources and have reported the stories. AFAIK no other journalist has shown they have primary sources on the Charlton takeover since the April 2017 story appeared on Mailonline. Other platforms just recycle what comes out of the club or second-hand material from the ones above.
AFAIK "done deal" has only surfaced once, in February 2018. Mea culpa. That information came from the lawyers and was backed up by someone not party to the deal but who had been involved with RD and was in the loop. The tweet was framed in that way because it is the phrase the club routinely uses for player signings - clearly it was foolish on my part as the information was qualified at the time with the warning there were formalities to conclude and it didn't happen - but I'm not aware of any other serious use of it by anyone. The fact a deal was agreed, however, is proven by the fact that the contract was eventually lodged with the EFL, according to them and on the record.
I can't believe there are still people who think we are being "played". The info, as multiple people have said isn't just coming from RD as his lacky. If it is a wind up, it's a bloody good one. The EFL, Jim White, the broker, the aussies, the legal firm. Christ he has gone to a lot of expense and effort to piss a few thousand people off.
LDT..."The reporting of Jim White made the British party aware that they might miss out on the deal and that “put them into sixth gear”....
"Played" has as much validity as "done deal" has...How many times has "done deal" passed us by..?
As has been mentioned before, De Turck would have to be very thick to have planted a false story with Jim White to achieve an outcome and then boasted in an on-the-record public meeting with fans that it had achieved that outcome. I don't think he is that thick and hence no one was "played" in that process. Neither was he JW's source.
The assumption that people have ever been "played" appears to rest on the view that RD's primary interest is in deterring protests or misleading supporters. It would not survive examination of the multiple various parties providing information but it is understandable to some extent since with the obvious exception of Gerard Murphy they have all stayed below the radar. As I've said before, people working at the club, others who know people at the club and random third parties are not credible primary sources and would not be relied upon by me, Rich Cawley, jim White or Giuseppe Muro on the Standard, all of whom to my knowledge have their own credible primary sources and have reported the stories. AFAIK no other journalist has shown they have primary sources on the Charlton takeover since the April 2017 story appeared on Mailonline. Other platforms just recycle what comes out of the club or second-hand material from the ones above.
AFAIK "done deal" has only surfaced once, in February 2018. Mea culpa. That information came from the lawyers and was backed up by someone not party to the deal but who had been involved with RD and was in the loop. The tweet was framed in that way because it is the phrase the club routinely uses for player signings - clearly it was foolish on my part as the information was qualified at the time with the warning there were formalities to conclude and it didn't happen - but I'm not aware of any other serious use of it by anyone. The fact a deal was agreed, however, is proven by the fact that the contract was eventually lodged with the EFL, according to them and on the record.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
Of course they are not, but why would he make such specific verifiable claims to Murray, Robinson and Bowyer, if he knew they were bound to prove false in the short term? Why did De Turck believe the club was being sold at the turn of the year?
It makes no sense unless Duchatelet believed it himself.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
I don't believe anything that comes out of the dudes trap.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
Of course they are not, but why would he make such specific verifiable claims to Murray, Robinson and Bowyer, if he knew they were bound to prove false in the short term? Why did De Turck believe the club was being sold at the turn of the year?
It makes no sense unless Duchatelet believed it himself.
But he is the one who can just make it happen with ease. As JW was trying to get out of him on the interview 'Why don't you just sell?' RD 'Trying to.' He could just accept a pound and be done with it. But instead he's honouring the Aussies and fobbing off others with £70m. If he believes it's being sold, then it's only under his deluded and stubborn standing. Other offers are there, there is no other reason this is still going on because of one man's greed, arrogance, stubbornness, ego and the other man's awkward consortium. Until either one of those gives way, it's a stalemate.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
Of course they are not, but why would he make such specific verifiable claims to Murray, Robinson and Bowyer, if he knew they were bound to prove false in the short term? Why did De Turck believe the club was being sold at the turn of the year?
It makes no sense unless Duchatelet believed it himself.
But he is the one who can just make it happen with ease. As JW was trying to get out of him on the interview 'Why don't you just sell?' RD 'Trying to.' He could just accept a pound and be done with it. But instead he's honouring the Aussies and fobbing off others with £70m. If he believes it's being sold, then it's only under his deluded and stubborn standing. Other offers are there, there is no other reason this is still going on because of one man's greed, arrogance, stubbornness, ego and the other man's awkward consortium. Until either one of those gives way, it's a stalemate.
For whatever reason, though, it seems he believes he can do it at an unrealistic price. However Murray and De Turck must be capable of assessing what is reasonable and therefore likely to happen? Why would they believe he would get it?
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
Of course they are not, but why would he make such specific verifiable claims to Murray, Robinson and Bowyer, if he knew they were bound to prove false in the short term? Why did De Turck believe the club was being sold at the turn of the year?
It makes no sense unless Duchatelet believed it himself.
But he is the one who can just make it happen with ease. As JW was trying to get out of him on the interview 'Why don't you just sell?' RD 'Trying to.' He could just accept a pound and be done with it. But instead he's honouring the Aussies and fobbing off others with £70m. If he believes it's being sold, then it's only under his deluded and stubborn standing. Other offers are there, there is no other reason this is still going on because of one man's greed, arrogance, stubbornness, ego and the other man's awkward consortium. Until either one of those gives way, it's a stalemate.
For whatever reason, though, it seems he believes he can do it at an unrealistic price. However Murray and De Turck must be capable of assessing what is reasonable and therefore likely to happen? Why would they believe he would get it?
Because they either have said something and been ignored, or not said anything because they are clueless (unlikely) or have their own incentive / benefits from agreeing with RD.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
I would not be at all surprised if Duchatelet lied to staff and managers, both past and present. This is the same Duchatelet that is eroding our club from within and renaging on paying staff bonuses.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
Of course they are not, but why would he make such specific verifiable claims to Murray, Robinson and Bowyer, if he knew they were bound to prove false in the short term? Why did De Turck believe the club was being sold at the turn of the year?
It makes no sense unless Duchatelet believed it himself.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Hopefully at some point this will all result in a sale to an owner or owners who care.
Then maybe we could find out what on earth has been going on for the last year and a half because I have no clue how Duchâtelet and minions have believed it is so close to the end, on more than one occasion, with no final resolution.
Clearly he isn’t as good at doing business deals (or at anything much) as he thinks he is, but he has turned his spectacular failure into a risibly awful spectacular failure.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
Isn’t that the same thing?
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
Isn’t that the same thing?
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
Not quite.
The line has been that the Aussies didn't have the money to close the deal.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
Isn’t that the same thing?
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
Not quite.
The line has been that the Aussies didn't have the money to close the deal.
I think they do but just won't pay what RD wants.
But we don't know
Well, we know that Andrew Muir had the money but wouldn’t put enough of it on the table or he could have met any likely valuation. That’s in the nature of a consortium. But the price must have been agreed in order to submit the contract to the EFL and the consortium not paying it isn’t obviously a basis on which the EFL would have stalled progress, as they agree they did.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
Isn’t that the same thing?
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
Not quite.
The line has been that the Aussies didn't have the money to close the deal.
I think they do but just won't pay what RD wants.
But we don't know
Well, we know that Andrew Muir had the money but wouldn’t put enough of it on the table or he could have met any likely valuation. That’s in the nature of a consortium. But the price must have been agreed in order to submit the contract to the EFL and the consortium not paying it isn’t obviously a basis on which the EFL would have stalled progress, as they agree they did.
Or maybe Muir offered a lower price but Roland is sticking to his original price hence his "honour the deal" comments.
We are guessing because the evidence has gaps and is often contradictory.
Even though Roland is pure horse manure absolute bellend.
It does still quite suprise me that he doesn't actually want this deal done dusted and completed/put the way as much as what we do.
What a small man he must be to actually care as much as what he does. He is 70+
I would have thought that Charlton athletic would just be an unwanted problem that he couldn't wait to get rid of.
A very small pathetic man.
Roland. It's not our fault you have a tiny penis.
Just use the money you have to enjoy old age.
Go fishing. Play golf. Get a muffin from Belgium. Tell Jim White the next beer is on him. Get an Xbox for the shed. Maybe enjoy recreational drugs of your choosing.
Get a dart board.
Say huh
Go to Clarks and get a f*cking great pair of shoes.
Like his shoes he'll cover up the holes and drag it on until he has to get rid of. I also think he is sticking it to us and enjoying it. Vindictive old bastard
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
Isn’t that the same thing?
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
Not quite.
The line has been that the Aussies didn't have the money to close the deal.
I think they do but just won't pay what RD wants.
But we don't know
Well, we know that Andrew Muir had the money but wouldn’t put enough of it on the table or he could have met any likely valuation. That’s in the nature of a consortium. But the price must have been agreed in order to submit the contract to the EFL and the consortium not paying it isn’t obviously a basis on which the EFL would have stalled progress, as they agree they did.
Or maybe Muir offered a lower price but Roland is sticking to his original price hence his "honour the deal" comments.
We are guessing because the evidence has gaps and is often contradictory.
I would suggest that getting a sales agreement drawn up and logged with the EFL would be close to exchanging contracts on the purchase of a house? All that is missing is the money in the solicitors bank account? It's a long way down the road and a very expensive process. You could almost say it is a done deal.
Like his shoes he'll cover up the holes and drag it on until he has to get rid of. I also think he is sticking it to us and enjoying it. Vindictive old bastard
Don’t think so. At the risk of being barred to the small politics subset I think he’s fairly similar to Theresa May. He has his red lines, his red lines are incompatible with his ambitions but he is not prepared to give up on them.
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Why would you believe anything Duchatelet says...or any of his lapdogs..?
katrien Meire was continually exposed as a liar, yet he still backed her.
A good reason previously put forward is that there’s some dark matter in the wardrobe left by the spivs which need to be resolved hence money has been agreed but...?
"Done Deal" "Done by February", "Next 2 weeks", and the latest being Jim White's "The next 48 hours", yet RD is still here, in "no rush to sell the Club" because he's rich & stubborn enough to sit it out until someone pays for his mistakes...
Do you think then that Murray, Robinson and Bowyer were all lying about what they’d been told about it happening? Or is Duchatelet lying to them?
Then what went wrong, again?
The assumption has to be that the money (still) isn’t there to do the deal as agreed. That is what I was told when JW said it was happening and it makes sense - what isn’t clear is why those involved repeatedly believe otherwise.
Yet LDT said the money was there.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
Isn’t that the same thing?
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
Not quite.
The line has been that the Aussies didn't have the money to close the deal.
I think they do but just won't pay what RD wants.
But we don't know
Well, we know that Andrew Muir had the money but wouldn’t put enough of it on the table or he could have met any likely valuation. That’s in the nature of a consortium. But the price must have been agreed in order to submit the contract to the EFL and the consortium not paying it isn’t obviously a basis on which the EFL would have stalled progress, as they agree they did.
I think it’s Murphy rather than Muir doing the negotiating, although it’s Muir’s (and others’) money rather than Murphy’s.
The rest is a mystery to all of us. Hoping the truth of what went on will come out one day, but of course it may not.
At times like these I find it best to turn to Douglas Adams for guidance.
“Perhaps I'm old and tired, but I always think that the chances of finding out what really is going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say hang the sense of it and just keep yourself occupied.”
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The assumption that people have ever been "played" appears to rest on the view that RD's primary interest is in deterring protests or misleading supporters. It would not survive examination of the multiple various parties providing information but it is understandable to some extent since with the obvious exception of Gerard Murphy they have all stayed below the radar. As I've said before, people working at the club, others who know people at the club and random third parties are not credible primary sources and would not be relied upon by me, Rich Cawley, jim White or Giuseppe Muro on the Standard, all of whom to my knowledge have their own credible primary sources and have reported the stories. AFAIK no other journalist has shown they have primary sources on the Charlton takeover since the April 2017 story appeared on Mailonline. Other platforms just recycle what comes out of the club or second-hand material from the ones above.
AFAIK "done deal" has only surfaced once, in February 2018. Mea culpa. That information came from the lawyers and was backed up by someone not party to the deal but who had been involved with RD and was in the loop. The tweet was framed in that way because it is the phrase the club routinely uses for player signings - clearly it was foolish on my part as the information was qualified at the time with the warning there were formalities to conclude and it didn't happen - but I'm not aware of any other serious use of it by anyone. The fact a deal was agreed, however, is proven by the fact that the contract was eventually lodged with the EFL, according to them and on the record.
If Bowyer & Co at the Valley think they are being told all that is going on and is 100% true they are in for a shock.
It makes no sense unless Duchatelet believed it himself.
Stop trying to apply logic with this bloke!
Then maybe we could find out what on earth has been going on for the last year and a half because I have no clue how Duchâtelet and minions have believed it is so close to the end, on more than one occasion, with no final resolution.
Clearly he isn’t as good at doing business deals (or at anything much) as he thinks he is, but he has turned his spectacular failure into a risibly awful spectacular failure.
I still think the money is there but they aren't willing to meet RDs price
It may well be that they money which is missing is that required to satisfy the EFL about the next two seasons rather than the upfront purchase price, but it all amounts to the same thing in the end - a deal that cannot be delivered in practice because the money is not put on the table.
The line has been that the Aussies didn't have the money to close the deal.
I think they do but just won't pay what RD wants.
But we don't know
We are guessing because the evidence has gaps and is often contradictory.
It does still quite suprise me that he doesn't actually want this deal done dusted and completed/put the way as much as what we do.
What a small man he must be to actually care as much as what he does. He is 70+
I would have thought that Charlton athletic would just be an unwanted problem that he couldn't wait to get rid of.
A very small pathetic man.
Roland. It's not our fault you have a tiny penis.
Just use the money you have to enjoy old age.
Go fishing. Play golf. Get a muffin from Belgium. Tell Jim White the next beer is on him. Get an Xbox for the shed. Maybe enjoy recreational drugs of your choosing.
Get a dart board.
Say huh
Go to Clarks and get a f*cking great pair of shoes.
He’s an arsehole.
Why would you believe anything Duchatelet says...or any of his lapdogs..?
katrien Meire was continually exposed as a liar, yet he still backed her.
The rest is a mystery to all of us. Hoping the truth of what went on will come out one day, but of course it may not.
“Perhaps I'm old and tired, but I always think that the chances of finding out what really is going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say hang the sense of it and just keep yourself occupied.”