The EFL responded to Duchatelet's statement, saying it hoped to conclude the matter "within an appropriate and reasonable timeframe".
"The EFL has worked with the club, the current ownership and prospective new owners to ensure any change of control is achieved as quickly as is practically possible," a statement added.
"These situations never follow a set format, are unique in nature and the EFL is reliant on the quality of information supplied as part of any submissions.
"The League is committed to applying its regulations and ensuring the appropriate levels of due diligence are undertaken on any individuals wishing to become involved at the club.
"Discussions remain ongoing."
Worked really well for Bury.
But I think that is the issue. Bury put them under unprecedented scrutiny, politicians getting involved. They have a newish CEO who probably wants to distance himself from Shaun Harvey’s regime.
I have a rather dark thought, based on @Airman Brown suggestion that the latest RD statement might have been prepared with ESI PR help. If that is the case it raises the spectre that RD and ESI might be happy with, but which the EFL is not. And that in turn has the unhappy implication that the EFL might be trying to protect the club, and us, from something a bit iffy.
but like I said, just my dark thought. Overall though, I am reluctant to get on the EFL back, because I can’t see any reason at all why they would treat our case more strictly, or with less application, than anything else they’ve had to deal with. And I do say that as someone who has been to their office and met them (albeit Harvey in charge that day)
Re your “dark thought”. What keeps me away from too much concern about something iffy is the involvement of Tahnoon Nimer. He is so high profile in the business world of UEA and worldwide and close ally of the Sheikh that it would be madness for him to be involved in anything in the slightest way dodgy. We have had knowledgeable post by lifers that are familiar with the region that suggest that being honourable and in high standing are fundamental to the way the UAE conducts itself.
If there is a problem with the EFL my guess it’s to do with the source of the money. I doubt TN is either wealthy enough or daft enough to commit £100 million of his own money to a project in football.
@ShootersHillGuru I guess that is true, if we are all sure of Mr Nimer’s status as you describe.
One thing that makes me uneasy is that both The Rat and Southall have in some way been involved with third party players ownership in the past. Southall worked for the “pioneer” of that lark. Having said that, i saw a rather obscure interview with Southall that was posted on a Bolton forum, wherein he seemed to be rejecting his entire time as an agent, and had moved on. Talked about too many people setting themselves up as agents to make a quick buck, and too much corruption in the business. Music to my ears, that was, of course.
ok I will try not to have any more dark thoughts for now...
@ShootersHillGuru I guess that is true, if we are all sure of Mr Nimer’s status as you describe.
One thing that makes me uneasy is that both The Rat and Southall have in some way been involved with third party players ownership in the past. Southall worked for the “pioneer” of that lark. Having said that, i saw a rather obscure interview with Southall that was posted on a Bolton forum, wherein he seemed to be rejecting his entire time as an agent, and had moved on. Talked about too many people setting themselves up as agents to make a quick buck, and too much corruption in the business. Music to my ears, that was, of course.
ok I will try not to have any more dark thoughts for now...
Re your “dark thought”. What keeps me away from too much concern about something iffy is the involvement of Tahnoon Nimer. He is so high profile in the business world of UEA and worldwide and close ally of the Sheikh that it would be madness for him to be involved in anything in the slightest way dodgy. We have had knowledgeable post by lifers that are familiar with the region that suggest that being honourable and in high standing are fundamental to the way the UEA conducts itself.
If there is a problem with the EFL my guess it’s to do with the source of the money. I doubt TN is either wealthy enough or daft enough to commit £100 million of his own money to a project in football.
It was a post by Red Pete I think that totally put my mind at risk, I live somewhere with a culture obsessed with 'face' and it seems even worse in that part of the world。
The EFL responded to Duchatelet's statement, saying it hoped to conclude the matter "within an appropriate and reasonable timeframe".
"The EFL has worked with the club, the current ownership and prospective new owners to ensure any change of control is achieved as quickly as is practically possible," a statement added.
"These situations never follow a set format, are unique in nature and the EFL is reliant on the quality of information supplied as part of any submissions.
"The League is committed to applying its regulations and ensuring the appropriate levels of due diligence are undertaken on any individuals wishing to become involved at the club.
"Discussions remain ongoing."
Worked really well for Bury.
But I think that is the issue. Bury put them under unprecedented scrutiny, politicians getting involved. They have a newish CEO who probably wants to distance himself from Shaun Harvey’s regime.
I have a rather dark thought, based on @Airman Brown suggestion that the latest RD statement might have been prepared with ESI PR help. If that is the case it raises the spectre that RD and ESI might be happy with, but which the EFL is not. And that in turn has the unhappy implication that the EFL might be trying to protect the club, and us, from something a bit iffy.
but like I said, just my dark thought. Overall though, I am reluctant to get on the EFL back, because I can’t see any reason at all why they would treat our case more strictly, or with less application, than anything else they’ve had to deal with. And I do say that as someone who has been to their office and met them (albeit Harvey in charge that day)
“Help” is a bit strong. What is clear is that the statement was toned down considerably and that ESI will have known about it and not wanted it. Charlton staff could address the language if Roland didn’t have a free hand to do whatever he likes, which has been the previous position.
I'm just guessing, but that's not stopping anyone else. In my opinion, there isn't a problem, but I can imagine the financial background of our potential new owners may be very complex indeed, so it will take time for the EFL, who are after all not a large outfit, to do satisfactory checks of the ownership structures and ultimate sources of funds in place for this transaction. It's not the sort of thing that can happen overnight. I'm sure Roland's was far more straightforward than this, and the EFL will doubtless have beefed up the extent of their checks following justified recent criticism of previous sloppiness. It's like an MoT - if you're flogging the motor a slapdash check will do. If you're keeping it, you want to know it's been done properly. Patience, people, and breathe...
To be fair, it does not surprise me at all that the EFL is taking its time: they have been under so much flack of late with clubs going bust that they need to politically show they are doing their job. Plus it is getting up to Christmas and there is the general EFL hopelessness, so I am amazed that anything gets done!
We must be the most least ( is that a thing ?) transparent football club in the country . Why does everything to do with our club have to involve secrets , conjecture and innuendo ?
@Bedsaddick yes, it's a thing, as you can be the most of anything including "least transparent" but unnecessary. If we are "the least", that's an absolute and so doesn't need qualifying with "most".
I hope that a couple of months from now we’re not posting about and hoping the Aussies get their act together.
Tbf, this current lot only showed interest a couple of weeks ago and, if the reports are to be believed, it's only dragging because of EFL procedures.
A very much doubt they only showed interest a few weeks ago, I imagine that's just when we found out.
Sorry, I wasn't insinuating that the day they started showing an interest was the same day it was made public mate, just that it doesn't seem they've been on the scene for very long, relatively speaking.
it’s either going all fine and Southall is doing a great thing seeing the Upbeats, or it’s cynical PR he’s rocking up there. Delete as required to suit your mood
it’s either going all fine and Southall is doing a great thing seeing the Upbeats, or it’s cynical PR he’s rocking up there. Delete as required to suit your mood
Playing an absolute blinder if you ask me! Until I know otherwise, it’s all good stuff.👍🏻
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I have a rather dark thought, based on @Airman Brown suggestion that the latest RD statement might have been prepared with ESI PR help. If that is the case it raises the spectre that RD and ESI might be happy with, but which the EFL is not. And that in turn has the unhappy implication that the EFL might be trying to protect the club, and us, from something a bit iffy.
but like I said, just my dark thought. Overall though, I am reluctant to get on the EFL back, because I can’t see any reason at all why they would treat our case more strictly, or with less application, than anything else they’ve had to deal with. And I do say that as someone who has been to their office and met them (albeit Harvey in charge that day)
Re your “dark thought”. What keeps me away from too much concern about something iffy is the involvement of Tahnoon Nimer. He is so high profile in the business world of UEA and worldwide and close ally of the Sheikh that it would be madness for him to be involved in anything in the slightest way dodgy. We have had knowledgeable post by lifers that are familiar with the region that suggest that being honourable and in high standing are fundamental to the way the UAE conducts itself.
One thing that makes me uneasy is that both The Rat and Southall have in some way been involved with third party players ownership in the past. Southall worked for the “pioneer” of that lark. Having said that, i saw a rather obscure interview with Southall that was posted on a Bolton forum, wherein he seemed to be rejecting his entire time as an agent, and had moved on. Talked about too many people setting themselves up as agents to make a quick buck, and too much corruption in the business. Music to my ears, that was, of course.
ok I will try not to have any more dark thoughts for now...
It's not the sort of thing that can happen overnight. I'm sure Roland's was far more straightforward than this, and the EFL will doubtless have beefed up the extent of their checks following justified recent criticism of previous sloppiness.
It's like an MoT - if you're flogging the motor a slapdash check will do. If you're keeping it, you want to know it's been done properly.
Patience, people, and breathe...
good stuff.👍🏻