Morning folks. I survived the dinner party, although Mrs D wasn't too pleased with my late arrival. She had to delay our guests, but I just about got the food ready thirty minutes later than planned. I was also a bit knackered after cycling 106kms as training for the Prostate Cancer UK ride on first of June. So I'm about to sit down and write up my recollections of what was said last night (at the meeting, rather than at the dinner party).
50 minutes later and we're still waiting. Must be either a lot to write or James is having to do the washing up after the dinner party as a penance!
Morning folks. I survived the dinner party, although Mrs D wasn't too pleased with my late arrival. She had to delay our guests, but I just about got the food ready thirty minutes later than planned. I was also a bit knackered after cycling 106kms as training for the Prostate Cancer UK ride on first of June. So I'm about to sit down and write up my recollections of what was said last night (at the meeting, rather than at the dinner party).
I'm interested in the dinner party menu so if you can include that as well, I'm sick to death of all the pot noodle and pizza chat and want to hear about something a bit more sophisticated.
So here are my thoughts after sharing a beer with someone connected with the takeover of Charlton Athletic. He agreed that I can share this info, but asked that I don't reveal his identity before the club is sold. I know I've already mentioned that I knew someone connected to the Australian consortium, but this meeting could have been with a mutual acquaintance, or someone acting as an intermediary. Speculating on who the meeting was with might well lead to a drying up of info, so please don't.
I really like what I heard yesterday evening. Our meeting lasted 45 minutes, I was holding a dinner party for my wife's birthday at 8pm, and I was more than late. I was supposed to be preparing the food!
We should be meeting again soon (assuming my wife will let me), because my contact is very keen on seeing Jimmy Seed's memorabilia. He also asked for copy of his autobiography. (He actually nearly bit my hand off when I said I had a spare). What a change from the previous regime's attitude to the Club's history! The interest in Seed and the club's past was genuine, and very encouraging.
We didn't discuss finance I'm afraid. I'm not sure this can be discussed until after the sale has gone through. I didn't want to push it. So I don't know what they're paying for the club, other than that there will be no add-ons after the sale has gone through.
Interestingly, but not surprisingly, my contact has for months been inundated by emails from people asking about the takeover, but he is sorry he hasn't been able to answer any of them up to this point.
In no particular order:
1. They’re hoping, subject to approval from a couple of investors and the EFL, that the sale will happen next week. I think they might being a little optimistic with their estimate of the how long the EFL can take processing these fit and proper person tests, so an extra week or two might be on the cards? (Just guessing). But they're patient people. They believe it will happen, but that's all they would say on the matter. They say they're in this for the long haul, and it's already been a two year project, which so far has cost them a million Pounds. They mentioned a five year plan to get the club into the Premier League, which is their stated aim. The five year plan might include the previous two years ago, I'm not sure. They are interested in success. They have ambition. It's the Australian mentality when it comes to sport.
2. He described Fulham as being the only other club in London they might have been interested in. Why? Because both clubs 'have great fans, and a great stadium', which they see as key. They appreciate that fans are the heart of the club, and pointed out how 'different' the ownership system is in England, compared to the fan ownership system in Australia. They seem very aware of the differences between the fans of Charlton, and the fans of some of our London 'rivals', and see that as a big positive. They respect the passion.
3. They see they Australian system of 'Membership' as something they want to promote at Charlton. In Australia clubs have 'memberships' into the high tens of thousands - Essendon have just topped the 70,000 mark, for example. (Click here to read more.) How that might translate to how Charlton is run and owned remains to be seen, but I believe they see season ticket holders as the current 'members'. My contact was very pleased to hear that many people are waiting until new owners are in place to renew their season tickets. I was surprised they didn't know that already!
4. The reason for all the delays hasn't actually been to do with Roland Duchâtelet dragging his feet. Due diligence has been massively complicated by the fact that RD didn't actually complete proper due diligence himself when he bought the club, because of the circumstances of the sale. The complications they have encountered have apparently been a legacy of the previous Tony Jimenez and Michael Slater regime. I can't comment on their feelings about Roland Duchâtelet. Apparently RD mentioned how powerful the fans are at Charlton, something he hadn't experienced before. I think they see this as a positive.
5. They are buying the club, lock, stock and barrel. Roland wants to sell, and isn’t looking to hang on to any assets, Sparrows Lane for example - and isn’t looking for and sell-on deals vis a vis player sales. My source hasn't met with Duchâtelet, but has been dealing with his representatives. It's has been a very complicated process, but there has been no dragging of feet.
6. It was never the intention to make Charlton a kind of nursery club for Australian footballers. If any Australian footballers sign for Charlton it will only be because they are capable of playing at the appropriate level or higher. They’re more interested in getting Australians at home, and the Australian community in London, to support the team. They will be very vigorously promoting the club to the Australian community. I can only speculate that if there were any truly top class Australian footballers playing for Charlton, that would only help with that process.
7. They are looking to appoint a manager ASAP. My source spoke to Lee Bowyer yesterday, and he is being considered for the job. They have approached Chris Powell's people in an attempt to see if he is available as well. Other managers may also be considered, but only experienced ones. Mr Kewell isn't on the list apparently. They are aware that the transfer window is open.
8. They weren't too worried that we failed to win promotion. Again, because they see this as a long term project, not an immediate bid for glory.
9. They're genuinely looking forward to establishing contact with groups and trusts connected with Charlton, including CAST and the Community Trust if and when the sale has been completed.
There was probably more, and if I remember any of it I'll post here.
If anything comes up at our next meeting I'll also post it here.
Would like to take him to visit the Museum. I don't suppose anyone on here might be available to help with that ;-)
Many thanks to Belgian police who have just popped over to our hotel and insisted we all hand over photo ID and desist with any political activity in public unless we obtain a license which they implied would not be forthcoming.
On the orders of the police chief.
I think a license would be forthcoming, if required. Fuck off Duchâtelet.
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It also took longer to write than I expected. Gotta get it right!
I hope you're not disappointed that there isn't more, or that I can't name a date. But my overall impressions are positive:
https://jimmyseed.blogspot.co.uk/ (It's all there, but will add below as well):
So here are my thoughts after sharing a beer with someone connected with the takeover of Charlton Athletic. He agreed that I can share this info, but asked that I don't reveal his identity before the club is sold. I know I've already mentioned that I knew someone connected to the Australian consortium, but this meeting could have been with a mutual acquaintance, or someone acting as an intermediary. Speculating on who the meeting was with might well lead to a drying up of info, so please don't.
I really like what I heard yesterday evening. Our meeting lasted 45 minutes, I was holding a dinner party for my wife's birthday at 8pm, and I was more than late. I was supposed to be preparing the food!
We should be meeting again soon (assuming my wife will let me), because my contact is very keen on seeing Jimmy Seed's memorabilia. He also asked for copy of his autobiography. (He actually nearly bit my hand off when I said I had a spare). What a change from the previous regime's attitude to the Club's history! The interest in Seed and the club's past was genuine, and very encouraging.
We didn't discuss finance I'm afraid. I'm not sure this can be discussed until after the sale has gone through. I didn't want to push it. So I don't know what they're paying for the club, other than that there will be no add-ons after the sale has gone through.
Interestingly, but not surprisingly, my contact has for months been inundated by emails from people asking about the takeover, but he is sorry he hasn't been able to answer any of them up to this point.
In no particular order:
1. They’re hoping, subject to approval from a couple of investors and the EFL, that the sale will happen next week. I think they might being a little optimistic with their estimate of the how long the EFL can take processing these fit and proper person tests, so an extra week or two might be on the cards? (Just guessing). But they're patient people.
They believe it will happen, but that's all they would say on the matter.
They say they're in this for the long haul, and it's already been a two year project, which so far has cost them a million Pounds. They mentioned a five year plan to get the club into the Premier League, which is their stated aim. The five year plan might include the previous two years ago, I'm not sure. They are interested in success. They have ambition. It's the Australian mentality when it comes to sport.
2. He described Fulham as being the only other club in London they might have been interested in. Why? Because both clubs 'have great fans, and a great stadium', which they see as key. They appreciate that fans are the heart of the club, and pointed out how 'different' the ownership system is in England, compared to the fan ownership system in Australia. They seem very aware of the differences between the fans of Charlton, and the fans of some of our London 'rivals', and see that as a big positive. They respect the passion.
3. They see they Australian system of 'Membership' as something they want to promote at Charlton. In Australia clubs have 'memberships' into the high tens of thousands - Essendon have just topped the 70,000 mark, for example. (Click here to read more.) How that might translate to how Charlton is run and owned remains to be seen, but I believe they see season ticket holders as the current 'members'. My contact was very pleased to hear that many people are waiting until new owners are in place to renew their season tickets. I was surprised they didn't know that already!
4. The reason for all the delays hasn't actually been to do with Roland Duchâtelet dragging his feet. Due diligence has been massively complicated by the fact that RD didn't actually complete proper due diligence himself when he bought the club, because of the circumstances of the sale. The complications they have encountered have apparently been a legacy of the previous Tony Jimenez and Michael Slater regime. I can't comment on their feelings about Roland Duchâtelet. Apparently RD mentioned how powerful the fans are at Charlton, something he hadn't experienced before. I think they see this as a positive.
5. They are buying the club, lock, stock and barrel. Roland wants to sell, and isn’t looking to hang on to any assets, Sparrows Lane for example - and isn’t looking for and sell-on deals vis a vis player sales. My source hasn't met with Duchâtelet, but has been dealing with his representatives. It's has been a very complicated process, but there has been no dragging of feet.
6. It was never the intention to make Charlton a kind of nursery club for Australian footballers. If any Australian footballers sign for Charlton it will only be because they are capable of playing at the appropriate level or higher.
They’re more interested in getting Australians at home, and the Australian community in London, to support the team. They will be very vigorously promoting the club to the Australian community. I can only speculate that if there were any truly top class Australian footballers playing for Charlton, that would only help with that process.
7. They are looking to appoint a manager ASAP. My source spoke to Lee Bowyer yesterday, and he is being considered for the job. They have approached Chris Powell's people in an attempt to see if he is available as well. Other managers may also be considered, but only experienced ones. Mr Kewell isn't on the list apparently. They are aware that the transfer window is open.
8. They weren't too worried that we failed to win promotion. Again, because they see this as a long term project, not an immediate bid for glory.
9. They're genuinely looking forward to establishing contact with groups and trusts connected with Charlton, including CAST and the Community Trust if and when the sale has been completed.
There was probably more, and if I remember any of it I'll post here.
If anything comes up at our next meeting I'll also post it here.
Would like to take him to visit the Museum. I don't suppose anyone on here might be available to help with that ;-)
On the orders of the police chief.
I think a license would be forthcoming, if required. Fuck off Duchâtelet.
If what you're being told is accurate then it sounds like an excellent fit to our culture.
Sounds pretty good to me. I now really look forward to hearing what they have to say on the glorious day.