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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Getting the young voters out is going to be key.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    She'll have to do some serious Twitter following in the next week then :)

    Hopefully the yoot are energised and the olds don't turn out
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited May 2017
    In bed in my Italian hotel following some of Corbyns speeches on you tube. If this man is not Prime Ministerial, I don't know who is. Unless that means more of the same rubbish. If you want to judge in those terms, May is many, many leagues below Cameron! What idiot strategist wanted to make the election about her? Strong and stable - my arse!

    I want everybody to turn out - Corbyn is better for the old too. He is going to make the country fairer - the handful of famililies who own all the wealth and who control politics to get richer - even though they don't need too. It would be ok, but for the fact, that most of the population gets poorer thanks to the system!
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,083
    Teresa May isn't to appear on the BBC leadership debate and will be represented by Amber Rudd.

    How prime ministerial.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/28/amber-rudd-to-stand-in-for-theresa-may-in-televised-leaders-debate
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Just watched Diane Abbott on Marr.
    I didn't know I could cringe so much, it isn't Dr Who that makes me want to hide behind​ the sofa.
    Now for Amber Rudd who is able to use the May technique of not actually answering. A combination of refusing to talk about ongoing stuff, and kicking the can down the road and evasiveness.
    Diane Abbott could learn to be evasive, but she is so bad she makes Amber Rudd look like Abraham Lincoln.
    Any progress Labour has made recently has been put back by the Marr show this morning.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    edited May 2017
    If Corbyn had any realistic aspiration to be PM he'd keep that human car crash in the basement guarding a bumblebee in a jar
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    edited May 2017
    Why Diane hasn't been locked in some kind of gaffe-proof bunker located half a kilometre under Labour HQ by now is beyond me.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Fiiish said:

    Why Diane hasn't been locked in some kind of gaffe-proof bunker located half a kilometre under Labour HQ by now is beyond me.

    That we typed the same thing at the same time points only to how obvious the solution is
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Diane Abbott went on about working in admin at the Home Office just after she graduated as her having the experience, yet she says what happened 34 years ago with her mindset is not relevant now.
    Mrs Plum worked at the Foreign and Commonwealth department for 10 years, including close work with military and security services, and with significant allies from Europe. That doesn't qualify her as Foreign Secretary or Ambassador to America.
    To be fair, if salivating power hungry wanackers like May, Hunt, Gove, Rudd, Davis and Johnson can be rightly criticised, then Diane Abbott does not deserve to escape criticism just because she isn't a fecking Tory.
    I despair about the political class in this country.
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034

    In bed in my Italian hotel following some of Corbyns speeches on you tube. If this man is not Prime Ministerial, I don't know who is. Unless that means more of the same rubbish. If you want to judge in those terms, May is many, many leagues below Cameron! What idiot strategist wanted to make the election about her? Strong and stable - my arse!

    I want everybody to turn out - Corbyn is better for the old too. He is going to make the country fairer - the handful of famililies who own all the wealth and who control politics to get richer - even though they don't need too. It would be ok, but for the fact, that most of the population gets poorer thanks to the system!

    Humble brag !
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    This was in the Telegraph about a year ago but was pulled (according to Guido Fawkes, the Tory blogger, due to pressure from her team).

    I think it shows what most Tories think of her and perhaps shows why she has such a dearth of talent around her e.g. Fallon & Green come across as easily bullied. It is worth the read.

    http://www.rogercee.com/theresa-may-article-significance/
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    edited May 2017
    If you wanted to attack Corbyn and avoid the pathetic IRA trash talk the Tories seem to regard as strong stable leadership, the idea that Diane Abbott might end in in government is equally frightening as that idiot Fallon or the naked power hunger of Boris Johnson. And ditching her while an ideal idea, will probably cost votes.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Wait has May-hem seriously backed out of the TV stuff after initially declining, then agreeing? What a u-turning wimp.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Theresa May avoids any kind of unscripted contact with real human beings and tends to surround herself with sycophants who offer no real criticism.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Just watched the Diane Abbott interview with Andrew Marr. Not the complete car crash I was expecting but nonetheless fairly uninspiring and does nothing to convince me i'd put her in charge of my sock draw let alone The Home Office.

    I would imagine Sir Humphrey Appleby would run rings around her as would the tea lady.

    It's the fact that she's Corbyns choice for Home Secretary that casts doubt on the mans overall judgement and makes him unelectable. I can only assume that she has something over him which she might reveal should the need arise.

    I'm voting labour for Clive Effords sake who I sincerely believe to be a good constituency MP. Should the completely unexpected happen and Labour win on the 8th June I fully expect some of the worst day to day government in history.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    As opposed to a Tory win?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Theresa May is sodding unelectable, if we're chucking that meaningless word about
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Leuth said:

    Theresa May is sodding unelectable, if we're chucking that meaningless word about

    Only meaningless if you don't understand what it means. May is uninspiring but still people think she would be a better Prime Minister than Corbyn.

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    edited May 2017
    Increasingly people don't think that, as she further reveals herself to be a feckless mealy-mouthed hard-right harridan

    Corbyn has, potentially, a Home Secretary who's a bit gaffe-prone, rubs most people up the wrong way, etc etc. May has um her entire f**king cabinet of self-serving f**kheads. Unelectable!
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Leuth said:

    Increasingly people don't think that, as she further reveals herself to be a feckless mealy-mouthed hard-right harridan

    Corbyn has, potentially, a Home Secretary who's a bit gaffe-prone, rubs most people up the wrong way, etc etc. May has um her entire f**king cabinet of self-serving f**kheads. Unelectable!

    Ah good I missed classic irate sweary Leuth, it's been tiring being a one man lefty army.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Leuth said:

    Increasingly people don't think that, as she further reveals herself to be a feckless mealy-mouthed hard-right harridan

    Corbyn has, potentially, a Home Secretary who's a bit gaffe-prone, rubs most people up the wrong way, etc etc. May has um her entire f**king cabinet of self-serving f**kheads. Unelectable!

    Well the proof of the pudding will be on the 8th but my own view is that Corbyn is a liability to the core labour / swing vote. If the leader was someone else then I think labour might just have a shot at winning because May and her campaign have been so lamentable.

    Sadly I fear your "unelectable" Tories will be elected albeit with a bloody nose.

  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998

    Leuth said:

    Increasingly people don't think that, as she further reveals herself to be a feckless mealy-mouthed hard-right harridan

    Corbyn has, potentially, a Home Secretary who's a bit gaffe-prone, rubs most people up the wrong way, etc etc. May has um her entire f**king cabinet of self-serving f**kheads. Unelectable!

    Well the proof of the pudding will be on the 8th but my own view is that Corbyn is a liability to the core labour / swing vote. If the leader was someone else then I think labour might just have a shot at winning because May and her campaign have been so lamentable.

    Sadly I fear your "unelectable" Tories will be elected albeit with a bloody nose.

    If Corbyn can convince me that he's electable then who knows who else will be convinced by the 8th.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Fiiish said:

    Leuth said:

    Increasingly people don't think that, as she further reveals herself to be a feckless mealy-mouthed hard-right harridan

    Corbyn has, potentially, a Home Secretary who's a bit gaffe-prone, rubs most people up the wrong way, etc etc. May has um her entire f**king cabinet of self-serving f**kheads. Unelectable!

    Well the proof of the pudding will be on the 8th but my own view is that Corbyn is a liability to the core labour / swing vote. If the leader was someone else then I think labour might just have a shot at winning because May and her campaign have been so lamentable.

    Sadly I fear your "unelectable" Tories will be elected albeit with a bloody nose.

    If Corbyn can convince me that he's electable then who knows who else will be convinced by the 8th.
    But you've obviously had a bump on the head recently ;0)

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Nobody is unelectable with the right optics
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,150
    Leuth said:

    Nobody is unelectable with the right optics

    It would take a double from every bottle on the top shelf to get me to vote for this particular cruel mob of Tories... :wink:
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,150

    Just watched the Diane Abbott interview with Andrew Marr. Not the complete car crash I was expecting but nonetheless fairly uninspiring and does nothing to convince me i'd put her in charge of my sock draw let alone The Home Office.

    I would imagine Sir Humphrey Appleby would run rings around her as would the tea lady.

    It's the fact that she's Corbyns choice for Home Secretary that casts doubt on the mans overall judgement and makes him unelectable. I can only assume that she has something over him which she might reveal should the need arise.

    I'm voting labour for Clive Effords sake who I sincerely believe to be a good constituency MP. Should the completely unexpected happen and Labour win on the 8th June I fully expect some of the worst day to day government in history.

    May - Johnson foreign secretary. I believe that particular decision is on a par SHG. And at least she'll only be embarrassing at home, not all over the flippin' world... :lol:
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    If Labour do manage to pull it off it will make May's decision to call an early election one of the biggest fuckups off all time.
    I can't see it happening but you never know
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