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Chelsea v Spurs

UboatUboat
in Other Football and Sports
Already a good old-fashioned mad semi-final. Three goals, dodgy pen, Lloris should be off and it's only half time.
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  • Red_in_SE8Red_in_SE8
    Dodgy pen? Don't think so. For Moses to continue he would have had to jump over Son. That is not in the rules.
  • CharltonMadridCharltonMadrid
    That looked like a definite penalty to me.
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    Pen was in a grey area. No contact so technically no foul.
  • UboatUboat
    Waiting anxiously for the pundits' verdict.
  • cfgscfgs
    Callumcafc said:

    Pen was in a grey area. No contact so technically no foul.

    Grey area? It isn't our pitch from before Roly saved us. ;)
  • UboatUboat
    Looks like I'm in a minority then....
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    Uboat said:

    Looks like I'm in a minority then....

    I think I'm with you (Moses saw the leg and went over it) but can see why it was given.
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Moses dived and there was no contact - sliding in doesn't mean it was a foul if no contact.
  • 1StevieG1StevieG
    If you go sliding in like that in the area you are asking for trouble.
  • SOTFSOTF
    As soon as Son went to ground it was a Pen. The angle meant Moses had to go through him or over him. End result would have been the same.
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  • Red_in_SE8Red_in_SE8
    If you slide in you have to win the ball. If the attacker wins the ball first, as Moses did, then you are on the ground and impeding the attacker's ability to maintain possession without jumping over you.
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    1StevieG said:

    If you go sliding in like that in the area you are asking for trouble.

    I'd agree with that.

    Wasn't a pen though.
  • ChizzChizz
    So having seen close-up replays from every angle, there are still people who think it was a pen and people who think it wasn't.

    Can anyone who believes we should stop the game to allow for video evidence explain how a video ref would have made a "better" decision in that instance?
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    If you slide in you have to win the ball. If the attacker wins the ball first, as Moses did, then you are on the ground and impeding the attacker's ability to maintain possession without jumping over you.

    So at the most it should be obstruction and an indirect free kick. If that - he could have easily carried on but chose to dive.
  • ChizzChizz
    North Lower Neil said:

    Chizz said:

    So having seen close-up replays from every angle, there are still people who think it was a pen and people who think it wasn't.

    Can anyone who believes we should stop the game to allow for video evidence explain how a video ref would have made a "better" decision in that instance?

    Presumably the guy with the video would be a qualified ref, rather than a few blokes on the internet.
    So we would all be arguing about *his* decision instead of arguing about the ref's? Is that how it would work?
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Chizz said:

    North Lower Neil said:

    Chizz said:

    So having seen close-up replays from every angle, there are still people who think it was a pen and people who think it wasn't.

    Can anyone who believes we should stop the game to allow for video evidence explain how a video ref would have made a "better" decision in that instance?

    Presumably the guy with the video would be a qualified ref, rather than a few blokes on the internet.
    So we would all be arguing about *his* decision instead of arguing about the ref's? Is that how it would work?
    Yeah, probably.
  • 1StevieG1StevieG
    Wow. Desmond. What a pass for Alli.
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Great goal that.
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Spurs have been much the better side.
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    COYS
  • Red_in_SE8Red_in_SE8
    North Lower Neil said:

    Red_in_SE8 said:

    If you slide in you have to win the ball. If the attacker wins the ball first, as Moses did, then you are on the ground and impeding the attacker's ability to maintain possession without jumping over you.

    So at the most it should be obstruction and an indirect free kick. If that - he could have easily carried on but chose to dive.
    He simply continued running in his normal stride for the ball as he had every right to do.
  • North Lower NeilNorth Lower Neil
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    North Lower Neil said:

    Red_in_SE8 said:

    If you slide in you have to win the ball. If the attacker wins the ball first, as Moses did, then you are on the ground and impeding the attacker's ability to maintain possession without jumping over you.

    So at the most it should be obstruction and an indirect free kick. If that - he could have easily carried on but chose to dive.
    He simply continued running in his normal stride for the ball as he had every right to do.
    Does he jump over players onto the floor in his normal stride then?

    If he had carried on his normal stride he'd have been tripped and it would have been a penalty. But he didn't, and it shouldn't have been.
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    Chizz said:

    So having seen close-up replays from every angle, there are still people who think it was a pen and people who think it wasn't.

    Can anyone who believes we should stop the game to allow for video evidence explain how a video ref would have made a "better" decision in that instance?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gnOfzQE8nY

    Here's the correct application of the law, I believe. For when a player is impeded without contact.

    An indirect free kick inside the area.
  • Red_in_SE8Red_in_SE8
    But there was contact.
  • UboatUboat
    Here comes trouble.
  • 1StevieG1StevieG
    Chizz said:

    So having seen close-up replays from every angle, there are still people who think it was a pen and people who think it wasn't.

    Can anyone who believes we should stop the game to allow for video evidence explain how a video ref would have made a "better" decision in that instance?

    I doubt video refs would over rule a decision like that. More a case of another pair of eyes for the ref and assistants.
  • ValleyGaryValleyGary
    Definite pen
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    But there was contact.

    I haven't seen an angle yet that proves contact.
  • Red_in_SE8Red_in_SE8
    Thought Spurs should have had a pen. But you can't blame the ref. Ake fouled Alli before he made contact with the ball.
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