The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)
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What is so galling is knowing that we let Yann go for a song. Strikers like him are gold dust now.5
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Nothing RD likes better than a really bad idea.JamesSeed said:
Because that would be a really bad ide?cafcfan1990 said:
Agreed but your missing the point. Why bother making a squad at all only to leave us a few players short. Why not just not bother at all, ensure all the youngsters are being usedScoham said:
We're always 1-3 players short. This year it's right back and up front where we're lacking cover. Last year Phillips, Konsa, Hanlan and eventually Aribo had to step up. Before that KAG and Kennedy were two thrown in too early.cafcfan1990 said:
I agree but it just adds to the mystery. Why allow KR the chance to get Reeves and Clarke. Just tell him to use AriboScoham said:
Roland's preference for a small squad to force academy players to get a chance, whether they're ready/good enough or not.MuttleyCAFC said:It is always the same - what I find fascinating is why the bother actually bringing in some decent players, but never finishing the job and the squad is always missing somewhere which always gets exposed. Answers on a post card please!
No coincidence they're often strikers, who are the most expensive players to sign.2 -
He probably knows that wouldn't work but thinks doing it this way will eventually?cafcfan1990 said:
Agreed but your missing the point. Why bother making a squad at all only to leave us a few players short. Why not just not bother at all, ensure all the youngsters are being usedScoham said:
We're always 1-3 players short. This year it's right back and up front where we're lacking cover. Last year Phillips, Konsa, Hanlan and eventually Aribo had to step up. Before that KAG and Kennedy were two thrown in too early.cafcfan1990 said:
I agree but it just adds to the mystery. Why allow KR the chance to get Reeves and Clarke. Just tell him to use AriboScoham said:
Roland's preference for a small squad to force academy players to get a chance, whether they're ready/good enough or not.MuttleyCAFC said:It is always the same - what I find fascinating is why the bother actually bringing in some decent players, but never finishing the job and the squad is always missing somewhere which always gets exposed. Answers on a post card please!
No coincidence they're often strikers, who are the most expensive players to sign.0 -
Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.6 -
Why buy Ajose if he is and was shit?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.11 -
Computer said yessssJohnnyH2 said:
Why buy Ajose if he is and was shit?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.10 -
Slide wanted himJohnnyH2 said:
Why buy Ajose if he is and was shit?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
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So who made the decisions to buy them in the first place?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
They are and always will be shit.0 -
'Swings & roundabouts' i suppose.Swisdom said:
Slide wanted himJohnnyH2 said:
Why buy Ajose if he is and was shit?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.22 -
Swisdom said:
Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
So Katrien is choosing player for Robinson's squad?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
And
We sold Watt, for
1) how much?
2) where's the money?
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Ajose was bought before Slade came to the club. He inherited him as part of the squad he took overSwisdom said:
Slide wanted himJohnnyH2 said:
Why buy Ajose if he is and was shit?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.13 -
I thought Ajose was signed before Slade got the job no?9
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That's what I thought. Was speaking with a coach who knows Kevin Nugent who said Slade was never keen on AjoseRedChaser said:I thought Ajose was signed before Slade got the job no?
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That doesn't mean it's good enough. Lessons had apparently been learnt.Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Last year Slade played 4-4-2 yet we started the season with Hanlan as our 4th choice striker. Previous years KAG and Kennedy were played before they were ready.
This year it's RHFs turn. If Magennis and Novak are both out it's big ask for him to play as a lone striker in a team expecting to be challenging for promotion.
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Great minds and all that, also I got the feeling after half a dozen games or so that Slade had to play him rather than wanted to play him.Amos on the wing said:
That's what I thought.RedChaser said:I thought Ajose was signed before Slade got the job no?
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Ajose was bought by the club on the recommendation of Steve Head the then head of recruitment brought in by our wonderful CEO.RedChaser said:
Great minds and all that, also I got the feeling after half a dozen games or so that Slade had to play him rather wanted to play him.Amos on the wing said:
That's what I thought.RedChaser said:I thought Ajose was signed before Slade got the job no?
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Who appointed Slade?Swisdom said:
Slide wanted himJohnnyH2 said:
Why buy Ajose if he is and was shit?Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
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This seems familiar from an Everton forum:
Everton need a striker that will deliver 20 goals a season otherwise they will struggle. Seventh place will be beyond them.3 -
The laziest whine any fan can have is "we need a striker."ross1 said:This seems familiar from an Everton forum:
Everton need a striker that will deliver 20 goals a season otherwise they will struggle. Seventh place will be beyond them.
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Could Nick Blackman cut it in league one? Derby are looking to loan him out.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).11 - Sponsored links:
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Just as well, then, that some of us think we could well need two....NapaAddick said:
The laziest whine any fan can have is "we need a striker."ross1 said:This seems familiar from an Everton forum:
Everton need a striker that will deliver 20 goals a season otherwise they will struggle. Seventh place will be beyond them.
I'd hate for any of my whines to be disparaged as lazy.6 -
Yeah but this isn't quite your average Premier League fan moaning..NapaAddick said:
The laziest whine any fan can have is "we need a striker."ross1 said:This seems familiar from an Everton forum:
Everton need a striker that will deliver 20 goals a season otherwise they will struggle. Seventh place will be beyond them.
- We sold an attacker for circa £7m.
- We gave away three strikers
- We only have two senior strikers at the club.17 -
Should you really be being spoon fed at your age??Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
We've given Katrien chances for 3 and a half years...she hasn't shown up and no one else wants her either! Can she go and join Tony Watt??
Any mention of a fee? We did SELL him, didn't we? Will it cover the wages of the other strikers we are paying who don't actually play for US any more??
Others have already pointed out the flaw in your "Slide" (sic) wanted him assertion.
"No weaker than we've been..." is, in absolutely no way, any confirmation that they have learned from their mistakes.
It's a confirmation that we'll plod along with the same modus operandi...the one that has dropped us further and further into the shit since these incompetents got their hands on our club!!
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Good shout, he was mustard for Reading in the games I've seen him in. Didn't he play wide left though? Mind you Johnny Summers was a left winger but weren't too shabby at centre forward.OhEddieYouds said:Could Nick Blackman cut it in league one? Derby are looking to loan him out.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).0 -
But that doesn't bother him surely. I just don't see the point in nearly building a squad. Have a go or don't bother at all.JamesSeed said:
Because that would be a really bad idea?cafcfan1990 said:
Agreed but your missing the point. Why bother making a squad at all only to leave us a few players short. Why not just not bother at all, ensure all the youngsters are being usedScoham said:
We're always 1-3 players short. This year it's right back and up front where we're lacking cover. Last year Phillips, Konsa, Hanlan and eventually Aribo had to step up. Before that KAG and Kennedy were two thrown in too early.cafcfan1990 said:
I agree but it just adds to the mystery. Why allow KR the chance to get Reeves and Clarke. Just tell him to use AriboScoham said:
Roland's preference for a small squad to force academy players to get a chance, whether they're ready/good enough or not.MuttleyCAFC said:It is always the same - what I find fascinating is why the bother actually bringing in some decent players, but never finishing the job and the squad is always missing somewhere which always gets exposed. Answers on a post card please!
No coincidence they're often strikers, who are the most expensive players to sign.
We all know RD wants to put the youngsters in the shop withdow but he's actually blocked that with some of his signings.
He's a bizarre man that's for sure.1 -
Blackman can play as a winger or a striker (which could be ideal as that was the bonus with Mavididi). He ticks alot of the boxes. 6ft 2. Pacey. He would definitely give us another alternative option/style to what we have with our other forwards.3
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Ajose would have thrived with our current players in a 442 system. Holmes/Marshall/Fosu out wide would have given him lots of chances as well as what came through central midfield from Kashi/KFC/Reeves. It's so odd we let him go, especially if we need to change up tactics (though KR is set in his 4231 ways) and especially as it's to a divisional rival.0
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Why does she get to say whether watt stayed or not? Why would she want him gone? I really hope he did sing we want Roland out in front of her and I hope he sung it when he left the building tooSwisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.1 -
Should this not be on the striker thread and not on the Roland out one?OhEddieYouds said:Could Nick Blackman cut it in league one? Derby are looking to loan him out.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).0 -
And why has Vetoleke struggled with injuries? It's because this regime's medical stuff rushed him back onto the field when he wasn't ready. They ruined a decent Championship forward.Swisdom said:Roland didn't release players.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit.
Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Ajose might be 'shit', but who signed him? Not Slade. Katrien? Katrien's scout?
Who employs these people? Roland.
Apologist to the extreme. So ridiculous that it's laughable.
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