Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
That doesn't mean it's good enough. Lessons had apparently been learnt.
Last year Slade played 4-4-2 yet we started the season with Hanlan as our 4th choice striker. Previous years KAG and Kennedy were played before they were ready.
This year it's RHFs turn. If Magennis and Novak are both out it's big ask for him to play as a lone striker in a team expecting to be challenging for promotion.
Could Nick Blackman cut it in league one? Derby are looking to loan him out.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Should you really be being spoon fed at your age??
We've given Katrien chances for 3 and a half years...she hasn't shown up and no one else wants her either! Can she go and join Tony Watt??
Any mention of a fee? We did SELL him, didn't we? Will it cover the wages of the other strikers we are paying who don't actually play for US any more??
Others have already pointed out the flaw in your "Slide" (sic) wanted him assertion.
"No weaker than we've been..." is, in absolutely no way, any confirmation that they have learned from their mistakes.
It's a confirmation that we'll plod along with the same modus operandi...the one that has dropped us further and further into the shit since these incompetents got their hands on our club!!
Could Nick Blackman cut it in league one? Derby are looking to loan him out.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).
Good shout, he was mustard for Reading in the games I've seen him in. Didn't he play wide left though? Mind you Johnny Summers was a left winger but weren't too shabby at centre forward.
It is always the same - what I find fascinating is why the bother actually bringing in some decent players, but never finishing the job and the squad is always missing somewhere which always gets exposed. Answers on a post card please!
Roland's preference for a small squad to force academy players to get a chance, whether they're ready/good enough or not.
I agree but it just adds to the mystery. Why allow KR the chance to get Reeves and Clarke. Just tell him to use Aribo
We're always 1-3 players short. This year it's right back and up front where we're lacking cover. Last year Phillips, Konsa, Hanlan and eventually Aribo had to step up. Before that KAG and Kennedy were two thrown in too early.
No coincidence they're often strikers, who are the most expensive players to sign.
Agreed but your missing the point. Why bother making a squad at all only to leave us a few players short. Why not just not bother at all, ensure all the youngsters are being used
Because that would be a really bad idea?
But that doesn't bother him surely. I just don't see the point in nearly building a squad. Have a go or don't bother at all.
We all know RD wants to put the youngsters in the shop withdow but he's actually blocked that with some of his signings.
Blackman can play as a winger or a striker (which could be ideal as that was the bonus with Mavididi). He ticks alot of the boxes. 6ft 2. Pacey. He would definitely give us another alternative option/style to what we have with our other forwards.
Ajose would have thrived with our current players in a 442 system. Holmes/Marshall/Fosu out wide would have given him lots of chances as well as what came through central midfield from Kashi/KFC/Reeves. It's so odd we let him go, especially if we need to change up tactics (though KR is set in his 4231 ways) and especially as it's to a divisional rival.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Why does she get to say whether watt stayed or not? Why would she want him gone? I really hope he did sing we want Roland out in front of her and I hope he sung it when he left the building too
Could Nick Blackman cut it in league one? Derby are looking to loan him out.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).
Should this not be on the striker thread and not on the Roland out one?
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
And why has Vetoleke struggled with injuries? It's because this regime's medical stuff rushed him back onto the field when he wasn't ready. They ruined a decent Championship forward.
Ajose might be 'shit', but who signed him? Not Slade. Katrien? Katrien's scout?
Who employs these people? Roland.
Apologist to the extreme. So ridiculous that it's laughable.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Should you really be being spoon fed at your age??
We've given Katrien chances for 3 and a half years...she hasn't shown up and no one else wants her either! Can she go and join Tony Watt??
Any mention of a fee? We did SELL him, didn't we? Will it cover the wages of the other strikers we are paying who don't actually play for US any more??
Others have already pointed out the flaw in your "Slide" (sic) wanted him assertion.
"No weaker than we've been..." is, in absolutely no way, any confirmation that they have learned from their mistakes.
It's a confirmation that we'll plod along with the same modus operandi...the one that has dropped us further and further into the shit since these incompetents got their hands on our club!!
Only it's not the same old MO is it. That involved network players and unsuitable managers. There's no point in saying it hasn't changed at all when it has, even if further changes are needed.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
And why has Vetoleke struggled with injuries? It's because this regime's medical stuff rushed him back onto the field when he wasn't ready. They ruined a decent Championship forward.
Ajose might be 'shit', but who signed him? Not Slade. Katrien? Katrien's scout?
Who employs these people? Roland.
Apologist to the extreme. So ridiculous that it's laughable.
Did I say I'm happy with it? NO so drop this apologist bullshit.
igor has had 2 years to get fit and hasn't managed it. He pulled his groin didn't he? There's clearly some other underlying issue(s) that may or may not have been exacerbated by us but wasn't our medical team the same as before RD's arrival? (Genuine question)
It's irrelevant who signed Ajose - he's never been right for us (I said it I'm the first time I saw him in a pre season against Bromley). He was however widely lauded as a great signing for us at the time so the club did what it thought was right and not many disagreed.
Since these signings we have started to do things differently so there is evidence of progress but this striker situation is hugely shit - that we all agree on. We've done what we always do and left it to the last minute and will end up paying over the odds or being light up top and this isn't good enough if we have genuine promotion ambitions - which I believe we have. Still time to go but not signing anyone will undo much of the good work done so far. And it has been good so far.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Not irrelevant who signed Ajose and they should've scouted him and knew how he would fit into our team. They didn't because they just picked him out from a top scorers list before we even had a manager.
I'll drop the apologist bullshit when you stop apologising for Katrien and Roland's obvious incompetence.
All incomings have been ok Karl's wish list. He is calling the shots.
I think some of the criticism of this comment has been unfair. I do believe every signing made has been a player Robinson wanted, there just hasn't been enough of them!
So just the first sentence is correct then. That last one is not.
Well he is calling the shots regarding players we sign, but not budget
still got an unsuitable manager though, in my opinion of course.
Gobby now being reported in the local Bristol rag as having talked to Chris Lines about our players salaries. If he tells all and sundry about our players inflated pay he should not be too surprised when potential recruits hold out for more and delay deals as a result. At least we now know what Gobby is doing when he is on the phone 3 hours a day.
All incomings have been ok Karl's wish list. He is calling the shots.
I think some of the criticism of this comment has been unfair. I do believe every signing made has been a player Robinson wanted, there just hasn't been enough of them!
So just the first sentence is correct then. That last one is not.
Well he is calling the shots regarding players we sign, but not budget
still got an unsuitable manager though, in my opinion of course.
Gobby now being reported in the local Bristol rag as having talked to Chris Lines about our players salaries. If he tells all and sundry about our players inflated pay he should not be too surprised when potential recruits hold out for more and delay deals as a result. At least we now know what Gobby is doing when he is on the phone 3 hours a day.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
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Last year Slade played 4-4-2 yet we started the season with Hanlan as our 4th choice striker. Previous years KAG and Kennedy were played before they were ready.
This year it's RHFs turn. If Magennis and Novak are both out it's big ask for him to play as a lone striker in a team expecting to be challenging for promotion.
Everton need a striker that will deliver 20 goals a season otherwise they will struggle. Seventh place will be beyond them.
He's unlikely to go to a Champ club following his loss of form at Derby but he did ok at clubs before that (remember him scoring and playing well vs us in the Championship when at Reading).
I'd hate for any of my whines to be disparaged as lazy.
- We sold an attacker for circa £7m.
- We gave away three strikers
- We only have two senior strikers at the club.
We've given Katrien chances for 3 and a half years...she hasn't shown up and no one else wants her either! Can she go and join Tony Watt??
Any mention of a fee? We did SELL him, didn't we? Will it cover the wages of the other strikers we are paying who don't actually play for US any more??
Others have already pointed out the flaw in your "Slide" (sic) wanted him assertion.
"No weaker than we've been..." is, in absolutely no way, any confirmation that they have learned from their mistakes.
It's a confirmation that we'll plod along with the same modus operandi...the one that has dropped us further and further into the shit since these incompetents got their hands on our club!!
We all know RD wants to put the youngsters in the shop withdow but he's actually blocked that with some of his signings.
He's a bizarre man that's for sure.
Ajose might be 'shit', but who signed him? Not Slade. Katrien? Katrien's scout?
Who employs these people? Roland.
Apologist to the extreme. So ridiculous that it's laughable.
That involved network players and unsuitable managers.
There's no point in saying it hasn't changed at all when it has, even if further changes are needed.
igor has had 2 years to get fit and hasn't managed it. He pulled his groin didn't he? There's clearly some other underlying issue(s) that may or may not have been exacerbated by us but wasn't our medical team the same as before RD's arrival? (Genuine question)
It's irrelevant who signed Ajose - he's never been right for us (I said it I'm the first time I saw him in a pre season against Bromley). He was however widely lauded as a great signing for us at the time so the club did what it thought was right and not many disagreed.
Since these signings we have started to do things differently so there is evidence of progress but this striker situation is hugely shit - that we all agree on. We've done what we always do and left it to the last minute and will end up paying over the odds or being light up top and this isn't good enough if we have genuine promotion ambitions - which I believe we have.
Still time to go but not signing anyone will undo much of the good work done so far. And it has been good so far.
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
I'll drop the apologist bullshit when you stop apologising for Katrien and Roland's obvious incompetence.
That refers to KR speaking to Lines last season when we still had Tex, Sarr and Kashi on big money.
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now.
I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.