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The Dillon Phillips Quandary
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He’s excellent. Watch MotD and you’ll regularly see goalkeeping gaffs. Pretty sure Dillon hasn’t made any at all. Not even sure why he’s up for debate.
Will play at a higher level, with or without us.1 -
He’s playing well - bet Maxwell’s gutted, probably thought he’d walk into the team1
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If he's conceded 5 in 9, that's 0.55 goals per game.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
When was he conceding a lot more? As far as I remember Steer was in goal when we shipped 5 against Scunthorpe.Covered End said:Phillips has improved and is doing really well. He deserves to keep his place.
However, the 5 goals conceded in 9 games, is as much if not more to do with the defending, having a proper left back playing and Sarr's improved form.
Phillips is not the main reason, in exactly the same way as he wasn't mainly to blame, when he conceded a lot more at the start of the season.
The start of the season was Sunderland 2, Shrewsbury 1, MKD (cup) 3, Accrington 1,Peterborough 1, Fleetwood 0, Southend 1.
So that's 9 in 7 = 1.28 goals per game or
league only 6 in 6 = 1 per game.
So a lot more as in nearly double in the league and even worse if you include the cup game.0 -
I thought the cup game was Steers first game. Could be mistaken though.Covered End said:
If he's conceded 5 in 9, that's 0.55 goals per game.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
When was he conceding a lot more? As far as I remember Steer was in goal when we shipped 5 against Scunthorpe.Covered End said:Phillips has improved and is doing really well. He deserves to keep his place.
However, the 5 goals conceded in 9 games, is as much if not more to do with the defending, having a proper left back playing and Sarr's improved form.
Phillips is not the main reason, in exactly the same way as he wasn't mainly to blame, when he conceded a lot more at the start of the season.
The start of the season was Sunderland 2, Shrewsbury 1, MKD (cup) 3, Accrington 1,Peterborough 1, Fleetwood 0, Southend 1.
So that's 9 in 7 = 1.28 goals per game or
league only 6 in 6 = 1 per game.
So a lot more as in nearly double in the league and even worse if you include the cup game.0 -
You are :-)stoneroses19 said:
I thought the cup game was Steers first game. Could be mistaken though.Covered End said:
If he's conceded 5 in 9, that's 0.55 goals per game.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
When was he conceding a lot more? As far as I remember Steer was in goal when we shipped 5 against Scunthorpe.Covered End said:Phillips has improved and is doing really well. He deserves to keep his place.
However, the 5 goals conceded in 9 games, is as much if not more to do with the defending, having a proper left back playing and Sarr's improved form.
Phillips is not the main reason, in exactly the same way as he wasn't mainly to blame, when he conceded a lot more at the start of the season.
The start of the season was Sunderland 2, Shrewsbury 1, MKD (cup) 3, Accrington 1,Peterborough 1, Fleetwood 0, Southend 1.
So that's 9 in 7 = 1.28 goals per game or
league only 6 in 6 = 1 per game.
So a lot more as in nearly double in the league and even worse if you include the cup game.0 -
Phillips' total record this season is:Covered End said:
If he's conceded 5 in 9, that's 0.55 goals per game.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
When was he conceding a lot more? As far as I remember Steer was in goal when we shipped 5 against Scunthorpe.Covered End said:Phillips has improved and is doing really well. He deserves to keep his place.
However, the 5 goals conceded in 9 games, is as much if not more to do with the defending, having a proper left back playing and Sarr's improved form.
Phillips is not the main reason, in exactly the same way as he wasn't mainly to blame, when he conceded a lot more at the start of the season.
The start of the season was Sunderland 2, Shrewsbury 1, MKD (cup) 3, Accrington 1,Peterborough 1, Fleetwood 0, Southend 1.
So that's 9 in 7 = 1.28 goals per game or
league only 6 in 6 = 1 per game.
So a lot more as in nearly double in the league and even worse if you include the cup game.
17 conceded in all competitions from 20 matches = 0.85 goals per game
11 conceded in the League from 15 matches = 0.73 goals per game
Steer's record for us this season is:
25 conceded in all competitions from 20 matches = 1.25 goals per game
23 conceded in the League from 19 matches = 1.21 goals per game
In the last two seasons Steer has played 8 games for Villa and conceded 16 goals - 4 games and 8 goals in each season.2 -
All I know is if you show a bit of faith in a keeper and give them a decent run in the side they'll improve. Dillon seems decent keeper to me as did Steer after a run in the side.Addick Addict said:
Phillips' total record this season is:Covered End said:
If he's conceded 5 in 9, that's 0.55 goals per game.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
When was he conceding a lot more? As far as I remember Steer was in goal when we shipped 5 against Scunthorpe.Covered End said:Phillips has improved and is doing really well. He deserves to keep his place.
However, the 5 goals conceded in 9 games, is as much if not more to do with the defending, having a proper left back playing and Sarr's improved form.
Phillips is not the main reason, in exactly the same way as he wasn't mainly to blame, when he conceded a lot more at the start of the season.
The start of the season was Sunderland 2, Shrewsbury 1, MKD (cup) 3, Accrington 1,Peterborough 1, Fleetwood 0, Southend 1.
So that's 9 in 7 = 1.28 goals per game or
league only 6 in 6 = 1 per game.
So a lot more as in nearly double in the league and even worse if you include the cup game.
17 conceded in all competitions from 20 matches = 0.85 goals per game
11 conceded in the League from 15 matches = 0.73 goals per game
Steer's record for us this season is:
25 conceded in all competitions from 20 matches = 1.25 goals per game
23 conceded in the League from 19 matches = 1.21 goals per game
In the last two seasons Steer has played 8 games for Villa and conceded 16 goals - 4 games and 8 goals in each season.6 -
A bit of coverage in today's Mirror.
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Nice piece, a massive breakthrough for Dillon this season since Christmas, I imagine Maxwell expected to be number one when he joined us4
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Qaundary no longer. We have an undisputed no.1 goalkeeper and hopefully he stays a while.
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11 goals conceded in 21 games since Phillips returned to the side and 45 points (without Grant for almost all those games too) in that time. That is an incredible achievement from the whole defensive unit and we would have won the League had we demonstrated that same resilience over the course of the season.
Three clean sheets now should be enough for us to go up.5 -
What a save in the first half, cracking stuff!1
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He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half0
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I think that's a fair point. However, any defence needs to know that the keeper will come for crosses come what may. The likes of Grobbelaar and Peter Schmeichel used to do it and take out everything in their way including their own defenders.ct_addick said:He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half
Phillips doesn't need to do that with the height we have defending those. Indecision is leads to misunderstanding and that can be far worse than not coming at all.0 -
Personally thought it was average. Glad he saved it but would expect most professional keepers to do the same. Admittedly that was live and I haven’t seen a replay.Mendonca In Asdas said:What a save in the first half, cracking stuff!
A few terrible kicks today and he needs to come off his line more. He’s still young and I’m sure those improvements will come. He’s definitely been a part of our form since January, been very impressed overall.1 -
Some very good kicking from Dillon, also.cafcfan1990 said:
Personally thought it was average. Glad he saved it but would expect most professional keepers to do the same. Admittedly that was live and I haven’t seen a replay.Mendonca In Asdas said:What a save in the first half, cracking stuff!
A few terrible kicks today and he needs to come off his line more. He’s still young and I’m sure those improvements will come. He’s definitely been a part of our form since January, been very impressed overall.
No League One player is going to get things right 100%.
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Average, average!!cafcfan1990 said:
Personally thought it was average. Glad he saved it but would expect most professional keepers to do the same. Admittedly that was live and I haven’t seen a replay.Mendonca In Asdas said:What a save in the first half, cracking stuff!
A few terrible kicks today and he needs to come off his line more. He’s still young and I’m sure those improvements will come. He’s definitely been a part of our form since January, been very impressed overall.
Good grief , who are you David De Gea?2 -
You must have missed the moment in the first half where he came flying out of his area - Did a diving header to clear the ball all whilst it looked as though Bauer had it coveredct_addick said:He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half
But yeah there was another moment in the second half where Bauer expected Phillips to come and collect, stayed on his line and Patrick was forced to send it for a corner1 -
Seen it again, perhaps slightly harsh, was a very decent save. Not a brilliant one by any stretch though.Mendonca In Asdas said:
Average, average!!cafcfan1990 said:
Personally thought it was average. Glad he saved it but would expect most professional keepers to do the same. Admittedly that was live and I haven’t seen a replay.Mendonca In Asdas said:What a save in the first half, cracking stuff!
A few terrible kicks today and he needs to come off his line more. He’s still young and I’m sure those improvements will come. He’s definitely been a part of our form since January, been very impressed overall.
Good grief , who are you David De Gea?
Just because Phillips has been fantastic over the last few months, doesn't mean every save he makes is suddenly outstanding.
PS - You watched De Gea recently? Not a patch on Phillips!3 -
He definitely could have been better at coming out today. But he's not even 24 yet, there are areas of his game he will improve on. If he was as good at things like that as shot-stopping, he would be a Premier league keeper already so we need to be realistic.ForeverAddickted said:
You must have missed the moment in the first half where he came flying out of his area - Did a diving header to clear the ball all whilst it looked as though Bauer had it coveredct_addick said:He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half
But yeah there was another moment in the second half where Bauer expected Phillips to come and collect, stayed on his line and Patrick was forced to send it for a corner2 -
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cafcfan1990 said:
He definitely could have been better at coming out today. But he's not even 24 yet, there are areas of his game he will improve on. If he was as good at things like that as shot-stopping, he would be a Premier league keeper already so we need to be realistic.ForeverAddickted said:
You must have missed the moment in the first half where he came flying out of his area - Did a diving header to clear the ball all whilst it looked as though Bauer had it coveredct_addick said:He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half
But yeah there was another moment in the second half where Bauer expected Phillips to come and collect, stayed on his line and Patrick was forced to send it for a corner
I too think he needs to 'command' the six-yard area at corners a little more positively; although Nabby and Patrick seem to have that in hand. I like Dillon and I'm sure he will be our No. 1 for some time.0 -
Hopefully, he can certainly only get better and become a very good keeper in the League above and beyond.addick05 said:cafcfan1990 said:
He definitely could have been better at coming out today. But he's not even 24 yet, there are areas of his game he will improve on. If he was as good at things like that as shot-stopping, he would be a Premier league keeper already so we need to be realistic.ForeverAddickted said:
You must have missed the moment in the first half where he came flying out of his area - Did a diving header to clear the ball all whilst it looked as though Bauer had it coveredct_addick said:He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half
But yeah there was another moment in the second half where Bauer expected Phillips to come and collect, stayed on his line and Patrick was forced to send it for a corner
I too think he needs to 'command' the six-yard area at corners a little more positively; although Nabby and Patrick seem to have that in hand. I like Dillon and I'm sure he will be our No. 1 for some time.
Definitely areas to improve on, but I doubt there's a young player in League 1 who has everything.0 -
JJ is in charge of all corners including defence, I believe and perhaps he has told Dillon to leave it to Bauer and Sarraddick05 said:cafcfan1990 said:
He definitely could have been better at coming out today. But he's not even 24 yet, there are areas of his game he will improve on. If he was as good at things like that as shot-stopping, he would be a Premier league keeper already so we need to be realistic.ForeverAddickted said:
You must have missed the moment in the first half where he came flying out of his area - Did a diving header to clear the ball all whilst it looked as though Bauer had it coveredct_addick said:He worries me not coming off his line at times......great save first half
But yeah there was another moment in the second half where Bauer expected Phillips to come and collect, stayed on his line and Patrick was forced to send it for a corner
I too think he needs to 'command' the six-yard area at corners a little more positively; although Nabby and Patrick seem to have that in hand. I like Dillon and I'm sure he will be our No. 1 for some time.0 -
I said back at the start of Feb that we wasted the wages on Maxwell. That we should have stuck by Phillios& use the money on another striker. I know all about hindsight......but been proved right. No striker on the bench yesterday & yet Maxwell has yet to set a foot on the pitch.1
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I don't know how much of his wages we are contributing.golfaddick said:I said back at the start of Feb that we wasted the wages on Maxwell. That we should have stuck by Phillios& use the money on another striker. I know all about hindsight......but been proved right. No striker on the bench yesterday & yet Maxwell has yet to set a foot on the pitch.
The unfortunate thing about January was that we had a loan space available, but weren't able to bring anyone in. It wouldn't even have needed to be anyone experienced or that good
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That is what people were saying about Parker until two games agokillerandflash said:
I don't know how much of his wages we are contributing.golfaddick said:I said back at the start of Feb that we wasted the wages on Maxwell. That we should have stuck by Phillios& use the money on another striker. I know all about hindsight......but been proved right. No striker on the bench yesterday & yet Maxwell has yet to set a foot on the pitch.
The unfortunate thing about January was that we had a loan space available, but weren't able to bring anyone in. It wouldn't even have needed to be anyone experienced or that good0 -
You need 2 senior keepers. Phillips gets injured and who do we play, Maynard-Brewer? Bowyer would've been slaughtered.golfaddick said:I said back at the start of Feb that we wasted the wages on Maxwell. That we should have stuck by Phillios& use the money on another striker. I know all about hindsight......but been proved right. No striker on the bench yesterday & yet Maxwell has yet to set a foot on the pitch.2 -
Yep and arguably having someone experienced on the bench who can come in and do a job has probably pushed Dillon much more.Talal said:
You need 2 senior keepers. Phillips gets injured and who do we play, Maynard-Brewer? Bowyer would've been slaughtered.golfaddick said:I said back at the start of Feb that we wasted the wages on Maxwell. That we should have stuck by Phillios& use the money on another striker. I know all about hindsight......but been proved right. No striker on the bench yesterday & yet Maxwell has yet to set a foot on the pitch.3 -
Clearly, the issue was not money, we'd saved the wages of Ajose and Grant yet Bowyer still wasn't allowed to bring a striker in. We're owned by a fruitcake, that's the issue.golfaddick said:I said back at the start of Feb that we wasted the wages on Maxwell. That we should have stuck by Phillios& use the money on another striker. I know all about hindsight......but been proved right. No striker on the bench yesterday & yet Maxwell has yet to set a foot on the pitch.2 -
By many accounts, his distribution has not improved since last year. It's what worried Bowyer in 2018-19 and he said so more than once. When he gets a good rating in a match this season I notice it is because he "did not have a lot to do." I am thinking he is gonna get a royal pasting soon. Is it time to bring in Amos every other match as a way to force Dillon to work on his shortcomings? How does a coach actually work on improving a player's distribution? Is it mental? PS- whoops, missed the other thread. Will post there.
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