The influence of the EU on Britain.
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You haven't done it since Brexit either.Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html0 -
I know hasn't happened yet so you keep saying and keep posting the opposite when it suitsse9addick said:
You haven't done it since Brexit either.Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html
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Or is it my imagination as you keep telling everyone who will listen to you that it hasn't happened0
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By JOB do you mean James O Brien on LBC?Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html0 -
Brexit hasn't happened yet.Chippycafc said:Or is it my imagination as you keep telling everyone who will listen to you that it hasn't happened
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Blimey, thought you did some unionised job, turns out you are a hedge fund manager or something. Only people with money to burn buy two new cars, with their own money, in 18 months (given that you lose 20% on each new car due to depreciation). What has your car buying spree got to do with Brexit anyway, given that it hasn't happened yet?Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html
Still it's good to know that some members of the downtrodden angry classes that politicians didn't listen to, are doing well.
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Of course that biased pratt..i am off Monday so will listen to Nick Ferrari when working from home. I listen till about 10.00 and then switch him off He usually tells the bored audience what hes about to talk about at 09.50..then its switch off time shortly after. Man is a legend in his own mind especially also to the fools who listen to him\ Who else openly admits to wearing his coat up and hats down as he leaves his show, cos someone may bloody punch him.cabbles said:
By JOB do you mean James O Brien on LBC?Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html0 -
I think Chippy should change his user name to WalterMitty.PragueAddick said:
Blimey, thought you did some unionised job, turns out you are a hedge fund manager or something. Only people with money to burn buy two new cars, with their own money, in 18 months (given that you lose 20% on each new car due to depreciation). What has your car buying spree got to do with Brexit anyway, given that it hasn't happened yet?Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html
Still it's good to know that some members of the downtrodden angry classes that politicians didn't listen to, are doing well.3 -
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The plural of anecdote is not dataChippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html8 -
Re your first sentence, you're right that 'the diesel effect' is a factor but it's no good pretending that's the only cause. As motor manufacturers' president Tony Walker says, 'Uncertainty about Brexit and market confusion over diesel are taking their toll'.Chippycafc said:
Car sales are down due to the diesel effect. About to buy my second new car in the last 18 months..Never did that before brexit. I can distort facts too. Just mailed JOB that on his website bet he wont mention that come Monday.Stig said:Is this what they meant by 'taking back control'?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-car-sales-forecast-two-year-drop-motor-industry-carmakers-eu-brexit-a8142236.html
Re the rest, sorry but I don't know what you're talking about.1 -
So you spent precious time and energy e-mailing someone you despise Chippy? Funny that, when I find someone an objectionable cnut I just ignore them and get on with my life.0
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At least the Americans are being honest about what they want after Brexit...
https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-04/stop-saying-american-chicken-isn-t-safe-to-eat-u-s-tells-brits
Mmm...chlorinated chicken, beef pumped full of antibiotics and GM crops. All coming to a plate near you soon folks. 'Taking back control' and handing it over to large US conglomerates, brilliant!
I had to smile too at the reference, "...he’ll be checking Google to make sure Gove keeps his word". See, everyone's at it...2 -
Mrs Fiiish managed to get me to sit down and watch What The Health on Netflix the other day. It is an eye opening expose into how the US food industry in concert with big pharma, the health industry and the US government are suppressing any evidence of harmful practices in the food chain and are actively encouraging the practices that poison humans and proliferating the instances of heart disease, cancer and diabetes.Bournemouth Addick said:At least the Americans are being honest about what they want after Brexit...
https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-04/stop-saying-american-chicken-isn-t-safe-to-eat-u-s-tells-brits
Mmm...chlorinated chicken, beef pumped full of antibiotics and GM crops. All coming to a plate near you soon folks. 'Taking back control' and haning it over to large US conglomerates, brilliant!
I had to smile too at the reference, "...he’ll be checking Google to make sure Gove keeps his word". See, everyone's at it...
Most American processed food simply isn't safe to consume on a regular basis. I'd like to think we are safer here but instances of horse meat finding its way into beef products as well as wrongly labelled chicken and pork gives me doubts.
Unfortunately it's all as I said before the referendum; the fourth estate engineered Brexit and are using it as an opportunity to roll back hard-fought for bans and regulations on harmful practices. But as long as people keep reading the fake news and thinking journalists questioning the process are the enemy and not the people in power selling away your democracy to the highest bidder then we continue down this dark path.5 -
We've seen the horse meat scandal produced by Leavers as evidence the EU in no better at regulation on here before. But it was not a failure in EU legislation, the law is very clear around this sort of thing. Although there's another discussion to be had on the affects of the government cutting resources to carry out market surveillance, random testing, etc.Fiiish said:
Mrs Fiiish managed to get me to sit down and watch What The Health on Netflix the other day. It is an eye opening expose into how the US food industry in concert with big pharma, the health industry and the US government are suppressing any evidence of harmful practices in the food chain and are actively encouraging the practices that poison humans and proliferating the instances of heart disease, cancer and diabetes.Bournemouth Addick said:At least the Americans are being honest about what they want after Brexit...
https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-04/stop-saying-american-chicken-isn-t-safe-to-eat-u-s-tells-brits
Mmm...chlorinated chicken, beef pumped full of antibiotics and GM crops. All coming to a plate near you soon folks. 'Taking back control' and haning it over to large US conglomerates, brilliant!
I had to smile too at the reference, "...he’ll be checking Google to make sure Gove keeps his word". See, everyone's at it...
Most American processed food simply isn't safe to consume on a regular basis. I'd like to think we are safer here but instances of horse meat finding its way into beef products as well as wrongly labelled chicken and pork gives me doubts.
Unfortunately it's all as I said before the referendum; the fourth estate engineered Brexit and are using it as an opportunity to roll back hard-fought for bans and regulations on harmful practices. But as long as people keep reading the fake news and thinking journalists questioning the process are the enemy and not the people in power selling away your democracy to the highest bidder then we continue down this dark path.
The horse meat fraud was a deliberate and concerted action by a number of organised criminal groups to cash in on the differential in price between two products. No failures in EU legislation or otherwise led to this nor would have prevented it and eventually it was picked up by the authorities and the perpetrators jailed.
Ironically, what we may end up with post-Brexit is more types of products where this price differential exists, where it doesn't now, and therefore increase the risk of further food fraud. So we'll all end up paying more for a packet of mince that is UK produced without excessive hormone intervention, fed on non-GM crops, etc. because it is now a premium product. Or we don't pay up and join in the race to the bottom by buying the poorer quality but cheaper foodstuffs dumped on us by the US.
All of this against a background where food enforcement is being hammered by this governments austerity policies. It's a perfect storm.8 -
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You can bet your life the likes of Gove and Liam Fox and Moggy and Boris will still be able to afford to choose Waitrose free range, organic, corn fed, chicken breasts at a tenner a pop and not be shopping at Iceland with most of their constituents.Stig said:4 -
Utter clowns everyone involved in this farce.PragueAddick said:2 -
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/07/nigel-farage-to-claim-to-be-voice-of-174m-brexit-voters-when-meeting-barnier
All of our Brexiters happy to have this charlatan claiming to represent you at this meeting on Monday?
Hopefully you took the opportunity to send Nige your questions.0 -
What about the other 47 million of us who did not vote for Brexit or could not vote? Is any democratically elected politician going to represent the majority?2
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Try to cut the (voting) cake whichever way you want, but whichever way you choose to, 52% of those voted did so to leave.Fiiish said:What about the other 47 million of us who did not vote for Brexit or could not vote? Oh that's right, traitor Farage and the morons who still support this farce only care what a minority of Britons think.
As you so eloquenty so put it, I am one of those morons who voted leave1 -
In a non-binding advisory referendum that was not run under normal electoral rules and was widely denounced as being flawed from a democratic standpoint.
Only a minority of people support Brexit. No matter how you cut the cake you can't change that fact.
And for the record I don't think all leave voters are morons. Many have been sensible enough to realise what an utter farce Brexit actually is.3 -
Leave voters here with about four exceptions are reduced to LOLing remainer posts, or criticising them or pointing out what they don't like about the EU. However no brexit posters have been able to construct a credible story about how the UK would or should leave, or what the benefits would be or what happens next.
To paraphrase the most common stance it is 'we don't know and we'll have to see what happens'. If it is really true that brexiters knew what they were voting for, why don't they tell us?10 -
The financials mean nothing much to me, that kind of news is for the avaricious.stonemuse said:
However I notice from your link that Dublin is moving up the list and Frankfurt which was 23rd a year ago has moved up to 11th in a year.
For those who get excited by money, the link you have provided seems to me to be bad news for the UK, and not good news brought on by Brexit.
Perhaps you have an alternative interpretation.0 -
@seth plum
In fairness, we can't be 100% sure what would happen if we remain in the EU.
They might bring in regulations banning trainee doctors from having a "religious beard"
Don't laugh............it could happen somewhere in Europe and end up as EU law !
Come to that, with 2 nutters in the world who have red buttons on their desk, maybe nothing matters ?1 -
Only if you don't understand how laws are made in the EU and then applied in each country, and ignore the existence of all the EU human rights legislation. And then further ignore the hard won veto we have.Valiantphil said:@seth plum
In fairness, we can't be 100% sure what would happen if we remain in the EU.
They might bring in regulations banning trainee doctors from having a "religious beard"
Don't laugh............it could happen somewhere in Europe and end up as EU law !
Come to that, with 2 nutters in the world who have red buttons on their desk, maybe nothing matters ?
So if we scrap big chunks of human rights legislation, completely change the way EU laws are made and incorporated into member states' lawbooks, and the lose or decline to use our veto, then I guess it could happen.
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