The influence of the EU on Britain.
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its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.cabbles said:So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on
Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.
On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.1 -
So brexit means brexit means not brexit means probable rejection by the EU means hard brexit means extended negotiations means a parliamentary vote means a people's vote means a new prime minister.
All part of the brexiters cunning plan.4 -
We should never forget that the only reason we're in this 'shiftiest' at all, is because the spineless twunk of an ex-Prime Minister who valued his job over his conscience.golfaddick said:
its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.cabbles said:So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on
Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.
On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.7 -
I see loads of people think this is 'the deal '.
It is merely the beginning.0 -
Yeah, how long until we take it to the EU and they reject it?0
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Totally agree......even Danny Dyer thinks so.Stig said:
We should never forget that the only reason we're in this 'shiftiest' at all, is because the spineless twunk of an ex-Prime Minister who valued his job over his conscience.golfaddick said:
its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.cabbles said:So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on
Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.
On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.1 -
Ah. Portugal. I love it tooChippycafc said:
That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.CharltonMadrid said:Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions
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Very creepy.ShootersHillGuru said:
Ah. Portugal. I love it tooChippycafc said:
That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.CharltonMadrid said:Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions1 -
Change the record Chippy. I wouldn’t stalk someone like you if you were covered in strawberries and cream.Chippycafc said:
Very creepy.ShootersHillGuru said:
Ah. Portugal. I love it tooChippycafc said:
That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.CharltonMadrid said:Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions
I take the piss cos you are predictable and a Walter Mitty.
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Ditto but it upsets you... And you do.ShootersHillGuru said:
Change the record Chippy. I wouldn’t stalk someone like you if you were covered in strawberries and cream.Chippycafc said:
Very creepy.ShootersHillGuru said:
Ah. Portugal. I love it tooChippycafc said:
That's an interesting point. In the last 6 weeks i have been to the costa blanca and Menorca, my wife pointed something out to me that she never noticed an EU flag or any indication we were in the EU or they were proud to be during that stay. To be fair they were playing in the world cup early rounds, and saw lots of Spain flags.... Maybe they took them down... Young uns who we engaged never said a thing.CharltonMadrid said:Found this very interesting - seems that German teenagers are more engaged with the issues than British politicians! Also gives an interesting look at how Brexit is perceived by Europe's young, and certainly corresponds with how it is seen by young people in Spain as well that I speak to.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/06/german-students-reveal-exam-answers-to-key-brexit-questions
I take the piss cos you are predictable and a Walter Mitty.1 - Sponsored links:
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Astonishing. It's taken the government two years to decide what they think Brexit might mean. But they don't seem to have worked out which bits of the UK they mean.guinnessaddick said:0 -
It only makes sense now why he seemed so upbeat about resigningStig said:
We should never forget that the only reason we're in this 'shiftiest' at all, is because the spineless twunk of an ex-Prime Minister who valued his job over his conscience.golfaddick said:
its a shitfest. As I said yesterday, Brexit now does not Brexit & the main Brexiteers in the Cabinet are spinless twunks who value their job over their consciences. Shame on them all.cabbles said:So what happened today? Are we all in agreement re: the way forward and it’s just formalities from this point on
Interesting to hear Bill Cash on Newsnight eatlier. He thinks what had been "agreed" may not be lawful under the Repeal bill that was passed by the Commons this week.
On any case it wont matter because the other 26 EU countries wont agree to it anyway.
https://youtu.be/-Gz6mZYxS0A
He shafted us and he knew it but it didn't matter because it was everyone else's problem. I've gone from laughing at that video at the time to it making me angry now!4 -
Still no solution to the Irish border in these latest proposals.
I expect they are unacceptable to the wider EU anyway.1 -
Was there anything in the propodals pertaining directly to the Irish border ?? I didn't hear anything in the news after the meeting & I think the meeting was primarily to get/keep everyone on side.seth plum said:Still no solution to the Irish border in these latest proposals.
I expect they are unacceptable to the wider EU anyway.
White paper out next week so should be in there.......but whatever has been "agreed" by the cabinet it sure as hell wont be by some
backbenchers & the EU.1 -
It doesn't matter.seth plum said:Still no solution to the Irish border in these latest proposals.
I expect they are unacceptable to the wider EU anyway.
Footballs coming home x1 -
I have read the three page summary of May's plan and it sounds broadly sensible. However I don't think it will be accepted by the EU who I think will tell us it's Norway, Canada or no deal and we'll have to pick one.1
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Will we reach the point when pro brexit voters admit they didn't know what they were voting for, or is the present nightmare to be seen as all part of the brexit voters plan?1
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They didn’t know what they voted for. Our government still doesn’t know what they voted for and the 27 still don’t know either.1
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If you had mentioned the Single Market or Customs Union to at least 85% of people on the day of the referendum on both sides of the vote they wouldn’t have had a scooby.6
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The would've thought the Single Market was a dating site, and the Customs Union a porn site specializing in the Missionary Position.2
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That says more about you Seth ;0)seth plum said:The would've thought the Single Market was a dating site, and the Customs Union a porn site specializing in the Missionary Position.
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What was it Jomo Kenyatta said about British Missionaries (you know, those one who spread 'British values')?
"The white man came and encouraged us to kneel down and pray, and when we opened our eyes our land was gone".0 -
The deal that the cabinet has signed up to is sufficiently soft to ensure it will get softer after negotiations with the EU. It isn't going to get harder and there is always some give or take when negotiating. I think it is a positive development as we have a position to negotiate for the first time. The big question is whether the hardline Brexiters are going to fight it. It would be a mistake if they did as they are not in the majority so they could scupper Brexit altogether if they don't shut up now. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks. This is an important put up or shut up point.0
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Is the phrase 'polishing a turd' the same as 'putting lipstick on a pig', or is there a subtle difference?0
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What the hell has this got to do with this thread.... Your posts get more bizarre everyday... No doubt your other inmates will think this is great.seth plum said:What was it Jomo Kenyatta said about British Missionaries (you know, those one who spread 'British values')?
"The white man came and encouraged us to kneel down and pray, and when we opened our eyes our land was gone".1 -
Wtfseth plum said:What was it Jomo Kenyatta said about British Missionaries (you know, those one who spread 'British values')?
"The white man came and encouraged us to kneel down and pray, and when we opened our eyes our land was gone".1 -
back to that old chestnut again are we.seth plum said:Will we reach the point when pro brexit voters admit they didn't know what they were voting for, or is the present nightmare to be seen as all part of the brexit voters plan?
I know what I voted for......can't talk for the other 18m leave voters.
The problem is The Government didn't realise what leave meant & still don't. Should never have had a remainer as the leader of the party, either before the Referendum or after.
The worst thing that has happend in British politics over the last 3 years is Corbyn being elected Labour leader. Virtually anyone else (apart from Diane Abbott) & the country would now be pushing for a vote of no confidence & a Labour landslide.
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