The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Are we there yet?0
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I voted to remain in order to collaborate in areas beyond just the market place.Chippycafc said:
Lol like the guardian then... Its all facts based from EU reports and papers, not good reading is it. But you said being in the SM was so wonderful. I think you need to read again.... All of it... And if you still think voting remain was the right option, you clearly did not know what you voted for.seth plum said:
The clip that was linked didn't have one positive word regarding brexit.Chippycafc said:
Facts4eu.org look at the bit where the single market commissioner who is on 250k salary states that 80% of the single market doesn't work for the UK. And that is the EU commissioner saying that, not me not the mail not the express.seth plum said:
Thank you for this link.Southbank said:
This guyseth plum said:When was the last time a brexiter suggested anything good about brexit, or even suggested something good albeit totally delusional?
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.express.co.uk/videos/553380/Marc-Roche-Britain-will-become-very-big-danger-for-EU&ved=2ahUKEwiqv-_84NrdAhUbM8AKHXMuCHo4ChAWMAV6BAgEEAE&usg=AOvVaw2CsMp9VlKUfWwSOJ6fBeSZ
Can you point out even one word on this clip where he says there will be anything good about brexit?
If 80% of the single market 'doesn't work for the UK' (and it is unclear what 'work' or working might actually mean), then how does brexit make whatever the UK aspires to better?
Isn't 20% of something better than 100% of nothing?5 -
You might have stumbled onto something there. Maybe a magazine full of articles about Godfrey Bloom's expeditions in Bongo, Bongo land, tips on how to keep The Old Rover going for another 5000 miles, war time recipes, Christine Hamilton as agony aunt, that sort of thing?NornIrishAddick said:
Is that a new special interest magazine in WH Smiths, just up the shelf from the partworks collections?se9addick said:
Classic Brexiteer!Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.3 -
Why do you care? If we remain in The EU then it is impossible for there to be an EU army unless we agree to it, and if we leave then it is literally none of our business if the EU27 want and army or not.Chippycafc said:
What do you think of the SM commissioners comments then about the EU still shafting us... And also they are heading defence reviews into the EU army, something your other hero Clegg said was brexiter fantasy land. Carpet getting lifted and getting swept under again.Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.14 -
Christ, there isn’t going to be an “EU Army” - why do any of you even entertain this nonsense.6
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The last two paragraphs quoting his speech are, to my mind, a brilliant assessment.Red_in_SE8 said:0 -
Keep repeating something enough times and people will believe it, as the referendum proved.se9addick said:Christ, there isn’t going to be an “EU Army” - why do any of you even entertain this nonsense.
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Yes. They struck me as well.NornIrishAddick said:
The last two paragraphs quoting his speech are, to my mind, a brilliant assessment.Red_in_SE8 said:0 -
Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party, is a long-time Eurosceptic. In the 1975 referendum, he voted against Britain remaining in the European Economic Community. He subsequently opposed the Maastricht Treaty in 1993 and the 2008 Lisbon Treaty. For decades, he has argued that the direction in which collective European politics has been travelling undermines the socialist objectives of a potential left-wing Labour government in the UK.0
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I think that the rhetoric of our politicians as influ need and reinforced by years of anti-Europe sentiment in the.national press make it very difficult for Europe to engage in good faith and almost impossible for us to do so.
I think I may get the maximum amount of mortgage borrowing right now at a nice low rate I can afford to pay back for the next 5-10 years no matter what happens to my job or other prospects.
I can then invest in London housing after a substantial reduction in property prices around June next year.
Unfortunately I’d guess around.5% chance of the UK being better off in 15-20 years (if the union even exists then) as compared to staying in.
I guess on balance I am a remainer lol0 -
But it was denied at the referendum..... Or you another who has selective memory....randy andy said:
Why do you care? If we remain in The EU then it is impossible for there to be an EU army unless we agree to it, and if we leave then it is literally none of our business if the EU27 want and army or not.Chippycafc said:
What do you think of the SM commissioners comments then about the EU still shafting us... And also they are heading defence reviews into the EU army, something your other hero Clegg said was brexiter fantasy land. Carpet getting lifted and getting swept under again.Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.0 -
Meanwhile, on Chips' favourite phone in show...
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No problem with my memory, an EU army won't happen, but you don't believe that so I didn't see the point in that line of reasoning. No matter how much proof I find that it won't happen you won't even read it, let alone believe it. It's literally like debating with a brick wall. I can display the facts to the wall all day long, but it won't move or change its position.Chippycafc said:
But it was denied at the referendum..... Or you another who has selective memory....randy andy said:
Why do you care? If we remain in The EU then it is impossible for there to be an EU army unless we agree to it, and if we leave then it is literally none of our business if the EU27 want and army or not.Chippycafc said:
What do you think of the SM commissioners comments then about the EU still shafting us... And also they are heading defence reviews into the EU army, something your other hero Clegg said was brexiter fantasy land. Carpet getting lifted and getting swept under again.Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.2 -
They are talking about and having meetings about it.... And if you looked wider instead of narrow afield you would see your lovely SM commisioner attends them... Sounds like another who did not know what they voted for.... List is growing....se9addick said:Christ, there isn’t going to be an “EU Army” - why do any of you even entertain this nonsense.
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He wasn't responsible for having a stupid referendum that has split the country in two. And he voted to stay in the EU. What you say is true but you can try to change it from within rather than deciding to jump off a cliff.Jensenwasclass said:Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party, is a long-time Eurosceptic. In the 1975 referendum, he voted against Britain remaining in the European Economic Community. He subsequently opposed the Maastricht Treaty in 1993 and the 2008 Lisbon Treaty. For decades, he has argued that the direction in which collective European politics has been travelling undermines the socialist objectives of a potential left-wing Labour government in the UK.
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Afraid mate he wont allow anyone on who will give him an argument... He is a coward. Btw thought we had a mutual truce... Your heads above the other idiots.PragueAddick said:Meanwhile, on Chips' favourite phone in show...
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I hope it doesn't but their talking about it... Something that was always denied...randy andy said:
No problem with my memory, an EU army won't happen, but you don't believe that so I didn't see the point in that line of reasoning. No matter how much proof I find that it won't happen you won't even read it, let alone believe it. It's literally like debating with a brick wall. I can display the facts to the wall all day long, but it won't move or change its position.Chippycafc said:
But it was denied at the referendum..... Or you another who has selective memory....randy andy said:
Why do you care? If we remain in The EU then it is impossible for there to be an EU army unless we agree to it, and if we leave then it is literally none of our business if the EU27 want and army or not.Chippycafc said:
What do you think of the SM commissioners comments then about the EU still shafting us... And also they are heading defence reviews into the EU army, something your other hero Clegg said was brexiter fantasy land. Carpet getting lifted and getting swept under again.Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.0 -
I think he needs to ssk his boss, they hold s different view... Good as madrid says if you say it enough times some numpties will believe it.Red_in_SE8 said:0 -
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Oh, come on now. Next you'll be telling us that Turkey aren't joining the EU, bananas can grow in any shape they like and that no French president since de Gaulle has ever eaten a baby as part of a satanic ritual.randy andy said:
No problem with my memory, an EU army won't happen, but you don't believe that so I didn't see the point in that line of reasoning. No matter how much proof I find that it won't happen you won't even read it, let alone believe it. It's literally like debating with a brick wall. I can display the facts to the wall all day long, but it won't move or change its position.Chippycafc said:
But it was denied at the referendum..... Or you another who has selective memory....randy andy said:
Why do you care? If we remain in The EU then it is impossible for there to be an EU army unless we agree to it, and if we leave then it is literally none of our business if the EU27 want and army or not.Chippycafc said:
What do you think of the SM commissioners comments then about the EU still shafting us... And also they are heading defence reviews into the EU army, something your other hero Clegg said was brexiter fantasy land. Carpet getting lifted and getting swept under again.Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.2 -
People are engaging with the troll again. I’ve stopped. You can too.4
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We do. Just mentioned you because you were there, and I know how much you enjoy the programmeChippycafc said:
Afraid mate he wont allow anyone on who will give him an argument... He is a coward. Btw thought we had a mutual truce... Your heads above the other idiots.PragueAddick said:Meanwhile, on Chips' favourite phone in show...
TBF it's not clear the guy was calling about Brexit, although I assumed so.
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Lol despise him i am afraid... Even argues with people who agree with him, blokes a nut.PragueAddick said:
We do. Just mentioned you because you were there, and I know how much you enjoy the programmeChippycafc said:
Afraid mate he wont allow anyone on who will give him an argument... He is a coward. Btw thought we had a mutual truce... Your heads above the other idiots.PragueAddick said:Meanwhile, on Chips' favourite phone in show...
TBF it's not clear the guy was calling about Brexit, although I assumed so. 0 -
You do everything you are told... Bark like a fog, get on all fours.... Play dead....ShootersHillGuru said:People are engaging with the troll again. I’ve stopped. You can too.
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Whens the emergency budget...Stig said:
Oh, come on now. Next you'll be telling us that Turkey aren't joining the EU, bananas can grow in any shape they like and that no French president since de Gaulle has ever eaten a baby as part of a satanic ritual.randy andy said:
No problem with my memory, an EU army won't happen, but you don't believe that so I didn't see the point in that line of reasoning. No matter how much proof I find that it won't happen you won't even read it, let alone believe it. It's literally like debating with a brick wall. I can display the facts to the wall all day long, but it won't move or change its position.Chippycafc said:
But it was denied at the referendum..... Or you another who has selective memory....randy andy said:
Why do you care? If we remain in The EU then it is impossible for there to be an EU army unless we agree to it, and if we leave then it is literally none of our business if the EU27 want and army or not.Chippycafc said:
What do you think of the SM commissioners comments then about the EU still shafting us... And also they are heading defence reviews into the EU army, something your other hero Clegg said was brexiter fantasy land. Carpet getting lifted and getting swept under again.Bournemouth Addick said:In the interests of balance I've just had a look at the https://facts4eu.org/bbp.shtml#1 "Brexit Battle Pack". As expected it's riddled with the usual "metropolitan elite" conspiracy, "the media are full of Remoaners", anti "Remainiac Guardian" nonsense, being long on rhetoric, short on data and designed to foster a victim mentality.
Given this is a resource designed for Leavers to lobby for a hard Brexit it might have contained more useful "facts" to include in leavers letters of complaint to the BBC, etc however it's best summed up by their explanation;
"We would love to provide you with a selection of some 'killer charts and facts' which we have researched and produced on all topics related to EU membership. Unfortunately we simply don't have the resources to put these together in a summary as we are grossly underfunded."
Hmm, I expect that's the only reason they aren't included then...and yes I'm also aware that there are going to be Remainer versions of something similar too.0 -
You want to hand shake on that.... Again... Wont last...ShootersHillGuru said:People are engaging with the troll again. I’ve stopped. You can too.
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Think the mods need to take a good look at this bloke.Chippycafc said:
You do everything you are told... Bark like a fog, get on all fours.... Play dead....ShootersHillGuru said:People are engaging with the troll again. I’ve stopped. You can too.
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How does fog bark?2
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Prague
News reaches me that Europe is getting closer to a Czech-out.
Any substance in this or is it nonsense?0
