The Ashes 2017-18
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ah yes forgot Bairstows0
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MalanThe_President said:Am i right in saying that if Mitchell Marsh gets a hundred then Australia would have got more centuries in this innings(3) than England in the whole Ashes series(2) ?
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Mitch gets his ton, then is bowled next ball. The Aussies teetering on 544/54
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Marsh bowled 1010
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about 560-5 at lunch0
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589-5
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Cook got a double hundred so I’m claiming 4 English centuries. #clutchingatstraws3
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Aussies declare on 649-7, lead of 303 (which is funnily enough what I guessed England would get in their first innings).2
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Score 400 quickly, declare and bowl Australia out for 50Callumcafc said:Aussies declare on 649-7, lead of 303.
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Well this is going well0
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12000 runs for Cook0
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But that’s where the good news endskillerandflash said:12000 runs for Cook
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I'm impressed that any of you can still face watching this shambles0
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Fortunately I never started!Chris_from_Sidcup said:I'm impressed that any of you can still face watching this shambles
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Cracking figures from our spin twins.
Chemical Ali and Frasier Crane couldn’t have done much worse.3 -
Apparently in this series our spinners have taken 8 wickets for 900 runs. Impressive.alan dugdale said:Cracking figures from our spin twins.
Chemical Ali and Frasier Crane couldn’t have done much worse.6 -
I’m afraid I went to bed around midnight when I saw Root give the new ball to Mason Crane. WTAF?
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I remember Smith getting picked as a leg spinner who batted 8. What I meant was good job they did pick him because they stumbled across a bloke who has become the best batsman in Australia (and lots of other places too).killerandflash said:
Smith was picked as a leg spinner though, not a batsman. It was at the time when they were desperately looking for the new Shane Warne!Simonsen said:
It was a good job Australia picked Steve Smith too early.killerandflash said:Crane might become a top international bowler, but is desperately raw, and surely called up too early. England have a habit of picking spinners then dumping them (Kerragan, Borthwick), Australia did the same the same thing between Warne and Lyon
Root was England's best spinner today, no idea why he took himself off, as he was a genuine threat and economical too (8 overs going for only 21)
It's only too early if selectors get muddled and dump players afterwards.
Fact is, all the time Moeen Ali plays, then a second spinner will only play occasionally. If Stokes returns then maybe Crane will get more chances.
By picking Crane for this tour, the selectors made it incredibly hard to drop Moeen as picking a 20 year old as your sole spinner would be incredibly risky.
What other spinners could play instead of Ali or Crane? I like the look of Leach and Bess at Somerset but they've often benifitted from doctored wickets at Taunton. The spinners don't get much of a look in in The County Championship these days. Games are packed into April and May or September to accommodate T20. Why bother with two spinners when four seamers can bowl most sides out on helpful pitches in about 55 overs?
Summed up when one Director of Cricket (Angus Fraser) said to me....."it's seamers who win you a County Championship" As an wisened ex-seamer he's bound to be biased but maybe he's right when referring to the present day?
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Boycott came up with a good point - maybe its time to drop the Duke and use the Kookaburra ball in County games as a start?1
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How about punishments for bowling too slow in the county game. At least 4 balls an over have to be 85 mph+ or there's a penalty. Include the spinners too for a laugh.The_President said:Boycott came up with a good point - maybe its time to drop the Duke and use the Kookaburra ball in County games as a start?
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Anderson has bowled superbly this tour aged 35 in less than ideal conditions. Just a shame he’s had no support bar a coupe of spells from Overton early on and then Broad in Melbourne.killerandflash said:That was a superb 4 over spell by Anderson, he caused the Marshes all sorts of problems whereas the other England bowlers have been smacked around with ease
As for Ali, looks like Bayliss was right after all - not a frontline test spinner
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As soon a Lyon came on you could see the difference in control and variation between him and Moeen, such a hard job for our left handers batting against him0
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Crane had worst debut figures ever for England bowler.0
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England as a whole are AWFUL away at the moment, the stats are damning. Conceding 600 runs used to be a real rarity, but recently it's become an everyday occurrence
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I have to question not conceding over 600 from 1955-2003 as I’m sure the Windies scored 600 + against us in the 90s. In fact, I think both sides scored the same in their first innings - 640ish ?
Stand to be corrected though.0 -
In the Lara 375 match in 1994, they declared on 593-5! So below 600, if a bit "luckily" for Englandalan dugdale said:I have to question not conceding over 600 from 1955-2003 as I’m sure the Windies scored 600 + against us in the 90s. In fact, I think both sides scored the same in their first innings - 640ish ?
Stand to be corrected though.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/16362/scorecard/63641/west-indies-vs-england-5th-test-england-tour-of-west-indies-1993-94/
Checking the Lara 400 match in 2004, they declared on 751/5!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15068/scorecard/64080/west-indies-vs-england-4th-test-england-tour-of-west-indies-2003-04/0 -
751-5...wow.killerandflash said:
In the Lara 375 match in 1994, they declared on 593-5! So below 600, if a bit "luckily" for Englandalan dugdale said:I have to question not conceding over 600 from 1955-2003 as I’m sure the Windies scored 600 + against us in the 90s. In fact, I think both sides scored the same in their first innings - 640ish ?
Stand to be corrected though.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/16362/scorecard/63641/west-indies-vs-england-5th-test-england-tour-of-west-indies-1993-94/
Checking the Lara 400 match in 2004, they declared on 751/5!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/15068/scorecard/64080/west-indies-vs-england-4th-test-england-tour-of-west-indies-2003-04/
How many did they get in first innings ?0 -
Yeah.yeah. just re-hashed words from the last 3 decades- whereas you take your pay-off and go and coach Kent in L2.
Bayliss should go in my opinion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42595640
Anybody remember the Lord SOmeone report after another drubbing in Oz? - that worked didnt it?0 -
Derek Underwood would've only have had to bowl slightly quicker and he'd be ok for your new laws.SantaClaus said:
How about punishments for bowling too slow in the county game. At least 4 balls an over have to be 85 mph+ or there's a penalty. Include the spinners too for a laugh.The_President said:Boycott came up with a good point - maybe its time to drop the Duke and use the Kookaburra ball in County games as a start?
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LOL, one of the first test matches I watched on Telly was v Pakistan in 1974, they declared on 600-7. One more leg bye and they could have shattered that record!alan dugdale said:I have to question not conceding over 600 from 1955-2003 as I’m sure the Windies scored 600 + against us in the 90s. In fact, I think both sides scored the same in their first innings - 640ish ?
Stand to be corrected though.0
