Out of interest, does anyone know who is showing the ODI's that are soon to start in OZ - BT sport or Sky ? Also the Test series in NZ. I'm assuming that BT sport just had the rights to the Ashes but not seen any ads re the others I've mentioned.
Out of interest, does anyone know who is showing the ODI's that are soon to start in OZ - BT sport or Sky ? Also the Test series in NZ. I'm assuming that BT sport just had the rights to the Ashes but not seen any ads re the others I've mentioned.
Out of interest, does anyone know who is showing the ODI's that are soon to start in OZ - BT sport or Sky ? Also the Test series in NZ. I'm assuming that BT sport just had the rights to the Ashes but not seen any ads re the others I've mentioned.
good point Golfie not thoight about that - have Sky been advertising? Would expect Sky are in NZ thank god - no more of the god awful Swann
Sky finally acknowledged that the Ashes took place last night when they held their own inquest. It was hurriedly put together with a panel hosted by Rob Key with Nass, Mark Butcher and an extremely large Steve Harmison. It was good TV for cricket fans but offered nothing new that we haven't discussed on here. The main thing that came across was that Nasser is still the outstanding candidate for England coach/manager etc, something I have been saying for years.
Sky finally acknowledged that the Ashes took place last night when they held their own inquest. It was hurriedly put together with a panel hosted by Rob Key with Nass, Mark Butcher and an extremely large Steve Harmison. It was good TV for cricket fans but offered nothing new that we haven't discussed on here. The main thing that came across was that Nasser is still the outstanding candidate for England coach/manager etc, something I have been saying for years.
I think Vaughn should be in the England setup somewhere. As captain he was the best man manager we have had. If he was in charge and not Strauss we would have at least stood a chance of keeping KP in the fold (and that's coming from someone who can't stand KP). I'm sure he would get more out of the players than the current setup.
Sky finally acknowledged that the Ashes took place last night when they held their own inquest. It was hurriedly put together with a panel hosted by Rob Key with Nass, Mark Butcher and an extremely large Steve Harmison. It was good TV for cricket fans but offered nothing new that we haven't discussed on here. The main thing that came across was that Nasser is still the outstanding candidate for England coach/manager etc, something I have been saying for years.
To be fair they have been doing an analysis after every Test - although Bob Willis had been appearing by video link so no idea where he was at that time. Like you I thought it very interesting with some very thoughtful & intelligent insights into where the England Test side needs to go. Sadly I don't think any of it will be taken up by the England Management & expect to see the same squad in NZ.
Also agree that Harmison has filled out - by the looks of his neck he must be going into boxing.
Bob Willis was in Oz , he did a funny chat in a lounge I was in , at lunch , on day 2 of Melbourne, slagging off boycott as a player mainly and he was on same flight home as me today .
Sky finally acknowledged that the Ashes took place last night when they held their own inquest. It was hurriedly put together with a panel hosted by Rob Key with Nass, Mark Butcher and an extremely large Steve Harmison. It was good TV for cricket fans but offered nothing new that we haven't discussed on here. The main thing that came across was that Nasser is still the outstanding candidate for England coach/manager etc, something I have been saying for years.
I think Vaughn should be in the England setup somewhere. As captain he was the best man manager we have had. If he was in charge and not Strauss we would have at least stood a chance of keeping KP in the fold (and that's coming from someone who can't stand KP). I'm sure he would get more out of the players than the current setup.
I think Vaughn would try to be too matey with the players. Best man manager ever? I think Brearley has that title by a mile. He managed Botham and Boycott extremely well. Boycott acknowledges Brealey's skill. I don't think Vaughn was a great captain, he picked up on all the good stuff Nass did before him and also he had the benefit of Fletcher at his peak in management.
Sky finally acknowledged that the Ashes took place last night when they held their own inquest. It was hurriedly put together with a panel hosted by Rob Key with Nass, Mark Butcher and an extremely large Steve Harmison. It was good TV for cricket fans but offered nothing new that we haven't discussed on here. The main thing that came across was that Nasser is still the outstanding candidate for England coach/manager etc, something I have been saying for years.
I think Vaughn should be in the England setup somewhere. As captain he was the best man manager we have had. If he was in charge and not Strauss we would have at least stood a chance of keeping KP in the fold (and that's coming from someone who can't stand KP). I'm sure he would get more out of the players than the current setup.
I think Vaughn would try to be too matey with the players. Best man manager ever? I think Brearley has that title by a mile. He managed Botham and Boycott extremely well. Boycott acknowledges Brealey's skill. I don't think Vaughn was a great captain, he picked up on all the good stuff Nass did before him and also he had the benefit of Fletcher at his peak in management.
I disagree, I think Vaughan was a great captain. Got the best out of his players. Some of our players had world class spells in their career under Vaughan, over achieved if you like.
Having said that, no way should he be coach, but possibly somewhere in the set up. Hussain is a decent shout too, like him as a pundit.
Out of interest, does anyone know who is showing the ODI's that are soon to start in OZ - BT sport or Sky ? Also the Test series in NZ. I'm assuming that BT sport just had the rights to the Ashes but not seen any ads re the others I've mentioned.
BT Sport's deal is with the Australian cricket board, hence the Ashes, ODIs and Big Bash are all on BT
Where it gets a bit farcical is with the tri nation T20 tournament that follows, as the matches held in Australia will be on BT, while the ones held in New Zealand will be shown on Sky!
Joe Root (Yorks) captain, Moeen Ali (Worcs), Jimmy Anderson (Lancs), Jonny Bairstow (Yorks), Stuart Broad (Notts), Alastair Cook (Essex), Mason Crane (Hants), Ben Foakes (Surrey), Liam Livingstone (Lancs), Dawid Malan (Middlesex), Craig Overton (Somerset), Ben Stokes (Durham), Mark Stoneman (Surrey), James Vince (Hants), Chris Woakes (Warks), Mark Wood (Durham).
Ben Stokes is included, though his involvement remains subject to legal or disciplinary developments in relation to an incident in Bristol in September. Should the England and Wales Cricket Board receive confirmation Stokes has either been charged or that he will face no charges, they would convene within 48 hours to make a decision on his availability at that stage.
Ben Stokes is included, though his involvement remains subject to legal or disciplinary developments in relation to an incident in Bristol in September. Should the England and Wales Cricket Board receive confirmation Stokes has either been charged or that he will face no charges, they would convene within 48 hours to make a decision on his availability at that stage.
what are the DPP doing ?? Are they still on their xmas hols ??
Squad for NZ has been announced. Ballance obviously didn’t score enough runs in the test series and is dropped!
As Rob Key has just said, it's an admittance that they made a mistake in including him in the Ashes squad. I'm not sure that he will see the logic though given the relative failings of Vince and Stoneman.
Not that he should ever be near the England side ever again.
Jake Ball dropped I see. He was another person that the selectors liked (despite public scepticism), but was dropped after 1 Test and never seen again, even when Overton was injured
Slightly surprised Curran wasn't included, maybe they don't want to overbowl him. A bit farcical to leave him out and include the provisional Stokes though, as unless the DPP decide to drop charges he won't be playing.
Will he be available for 2021/22 Ashes down-under?
I thought it has 2.5 years to go, but according to The Cricketer it is 2022/23. I understand there is some dispute over when his qualification period actually started. I can see him ending up on the T20 Circus, though, as he can bat well too.
Squad for NZ has been announced. Ballance obviously didn’t score enough runs in the test series and is dropped!
As Rob Key has just said, it's an admittance that they made a mistake in including him in the Ashes squad. I'm not sure that he will see the logic though given the relative failings of Vince and Stoneman.
Not that he should ever be near the England side ever again.
The 'problem' the selectors have with Ballance is that he topped the batting averages (for England quailifed ) last season and was way in front of some who were selected (Ballance had avg of 68, Vince for example had avg of 33) - so, to select Vince over Balance is almost an admittance that County Cricket is failing.
Squad for NZ has been announced. Ballance obviously didn’t score enough runs in the test series and is dropped!
As Rob Key has just said, it's an admittance that they made a mistake in including him in the Ashes squad. I'm not sure that he will see the logic though given the relative failings of Vince and Stoneman.
Not that he should ever be near the England side ever again.
The 'problem' the selectors have with Ballance is that he topped the batting averages (for England quailifed ) last season and was way in front of some who were selected (Ballance had avg of 68, Vince for example had avg of 33) - so, to select Vince over Balance is almost an admittance that County Cricket is failing.
Illogical selection here though - most people felt that Ballance had been given enough chances to change and that against pace he was going to struggle. He is then dropped having not been given a chance despite carrying the drinks for five Tests whilst most of our batsmen showed similar failings.
I just wonder if Ballance asked to be released i.e. he had a discussion with the management to the effect that "it's obvious that I'm not going to be picked so why not give someone else the experience of touring?" Hence Livingstone's inclusion.
I cant imagine Ballance (or anyone for that matter) asking to be released and therefore jeopardizing a potential central contract worth a fortune (in comparison to County wages). I can understand the selectors wishing to give some experience to a younger guy with maybe more potential. Whats your views on Livingstone? Decent avg last season (47).
Squad for NZ has been announced. Ballance obviously didn’t score enough runs in the test series and is dropped!
As Rob Key has just said, it's an admittance that they made a mistake in including him in the Ashes squad. I'm not sure that he will see the logic though given the relative failings of Vince and Stoneman.
Not that he should ever be near the England side ever again.
The 'problem' the selectors have with Ballance is that he topped the batting averages (for England quailifed ) last season and was way in front of some who were selected (Ballance had avg of 68, Vince for example had avg of 33) - so, to select Vince over Balance is almost an admittance that County Cricket is failing.
This has been done to death on here before but to summarise. It's just not an admittance that county cricket is failing. Not saying it isn't failing but Ballance isn't proof.
2 things are needed to make the step up from county cricket to international. Temperament and Skills/technique.
Some have both. Famously Tresco had a first class average in the 20s when he was picked. But it was clear he has both.
Curran and Overton both seem to have the temperament but I'm not sure they have the skills to back it up.
Ballance whilst a very good county player does not have the technique for international crixket and his temperament remains in doubt. Until those are sorted there is no point persevering with him.
The point is it's a step up. Not everyone can make the step regardless of county averages.
I think Curran showed real guts and a good temperament, he doesn't have the bowling skills though (at the moment at least) to be effective at the top level. Brett Lee did a very good analysis of him on BT Sport. He says he needs to sort out his delivery stride to get more height at the point of delivery. He's not particularly tall, < 6ft I'd guess. Lee reckons he could bowl faster with some modifications.
I think Curran showed real guts and a good temperament, he doesn't have the bowling skills though (at the moment at least) to be effective at the top level. Brett Lee did a very good analysis of him on BT Sport. He says he needs to sort out his delivery stride to get more height at the point of delivery. He's not particularly tall, < 6ft I'd guess. Lee reckons he could bowl faster with some modifications.
With his variations in pace he looks more of a white ball bowler to me at the moment
On the Sky review programme they were talking about his brother - a left armer I believe. Not quick but gives something different to all the right armers we currently have.
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Would expect Sky are in NZ thank god - no more of the god awful Swann
Also agree that Harmison has filled out - by the looks of his neck he must be going into boxing.
I don't think Vaughn was a great captain, he picked up on all the good stuff Nass did before him and also he had the benefit of Fletcher at his peak in management.
Having said that, no way should he be coach, but possibly somewhere in the set up. Hussain is a decent shout too, like him as a pundit.
Where it gets a bit farcical is with the tri nation T20 tournament that follows, as the matches held in Australia will be on BT, while the ones held in New Zealand will be shown on Sky!
Joe Root (Yorks) captain, Moeen Ali (Worcs), Jimmy Anderson (Lancs), Jonny Bairstow (Yorks), Stuart Broad (Notts), Alastair Cook (Essex), Mason Crane (Hants), Ben Foakes (Surrey), Liam Livingstone (Lancs), Dawid Malan (Middlesex), Craig Overton (Somerset), Ben Stokes (Durham), Mark Stoneman (Surrey), James Vince (Hants), Chris Woakes (Warks), Mark Wood (Durham).
Not that he should ever be near the England side ever again.
Slightly surprised Curran wasn't included, maybe they don't want to overbowl him. A bit farcical to leave him out and include the provisional Stokes though, as unless the DPP decide to drop charges he won't be playing.
Pick of the bowlers - Rashid 10-0-45-3 & Moeen 10-0-28-2
I just wonder if Ballance asked to be released i.e. he had a discussion with the management to the effect that "it's obvious that I'm not going to be picked so why not give someone else the experience of touring?" Hence Livingstone's inclusion.
I can understand the selectors wishing to give some experience to a younger guy with maybe more potential.
Whats your views on Livingstone? Decent avg last season (47).
2 things are needed to make the step up from county cricket to international. Temperament and Skills/technique.
Some have both. Famously Tresco had a first class average in the 20s when he was picked. But it was clear he has both.
Curran and Overton both seem to have the temperament but I'm not sure they have the skills to back it up.
Ballance whilst a very good county player does not have the technique for international crixket and his temperament remains in doubt. Until those are sorted there is no point persevering with him.
The point is it's a step up. Not everyone can make the step regardless of county averages.
thoughts ?