i honestly thought this was a wind up when someone told me but you can win a kidney transplant in the latest offering from endemol (company behind big brother).
Caught a bit of QI last night and happened to be the episode where Stephen Fry sums up Endemol (the production company in question) nicely:
(Not word for word this)
"Sir Joseph Bazalgette succeeded in one of the biggest civil engineering feats ever by building a massively extensive sewage system to take away all the London excrement. Interestingly, his (relative of some sort), Peter Bazalgette, is in charge of Endemol, a production company who is happily pumping $hit back into your homes via your televisions."
It's not my cup of tea either, but the main reason they do it is to get attention for the whole lack of donors problem. With this show this problem gets more attention than ever and hopefully it will start a good discussion about it. Mind you, this show is broadcasted by a television channel who's young owner died from kidney disease 5 years ago, so I think they will broadcast it in a quite modest way. It's the other press who jumped to conclusions immediately. A bit cynical maybe, but a 33% chance for a new kidney in this show is a whole lot more than the chance they have on the waiting list and there's the real problem, not the show itself. So everyone who thinks this show is a shame should ask him/herself: what have I done about this problem?
[cite]Posted By: Dutch Addick[/cite]It's not my cup of tea either, but the main reason they do it is to get attention for the whole lack of donors problem.
With this show this problem gets more attention than ever and hopefully it will start a good discussion about it.
Mind you, this show is broadcasted by a television channel who's young owner died from kidney disease 5 years ago, so I think they will broadcast it in a quite modest way. It's the other press who jumped to conclusions immediately. A bit cynical maybe, but a 33% chance for a new kidney in this show is a whole lot more than the chance they have on the waiting list and there's the real problem, not the show itself. So everyone who thinks this show is a shame should ask him/herself: what have I done about this problem?
Surely the reason behind the show is to sell advertising space and make them money? I am sure they can come up with a psuedo-altruistic reason to stave off criticism but it doesn't wash with me I am afraid. If you want to draw attention to this surely there are other ways to do it?
Carry a donor card. Tell your mates to do likewise. Boycott this shameful programme.
[cite]Posted By: Dutch Addick[/cite]It's not my cup of tea either, but the main reason they do it is to get attention for the whole lack of donors problem.
With this show this problem gets more attention than ever and hopefully it will start a good discussion about it.
Mind you, this show is broadcasted by a television channel who's young owner died from kidney disease 5 years ago, so I think they will broadcast it in a quite modest way. It's the other press who jumped to conclusions immediately. A bit cynical maybe, but a 33% chance for a new kidney in this show is a whole lot more than the chance they have on the waiting list and there's the real problem, not the show itself. So everyone who thinks this show is a shame should ask him/herself: what have I done about this problem?
i'm sure the losing 2 contestants will be satisfied with their 'weekend for 2 in scarborough' consolation prizes.
there are loads of areas of shortfalls in most health services but is a game show the right way to highlight it?
what next?
who's lung is it anyway
ready steady croak
[cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite]i'm sure the losing 2 contestants will be satisfied with their 'weekend for 2 in scarborough' consolation prizes.
there are loads of areas of shortfalls in most health services but is a game show the right way to highlight it?
what next?
who's lung is it anyway
ready steady croak
And what if 5% of the viewers start carrying a donor card after watching this show?
Mind you, these contestants are not helpless victims, but they know perfectly well what they are doing.
You need bell ringers to start solving a problem and maybe this one is it.
[cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Braindead starts tonight on Channel 4 at 9
problem solved.
to vote on this years big brother call 0845???????.
calls will cost £100 per second and a couple of pints of blood. mobile rates may cost an organ.
[cite]Posted By: Red Riding Hoodie[/cite]Surely this all just highlights the fact that the donor system should work on an opt-out rather than opt-in basis?
Just by carrying a donor card doesnt necessarly mean that your organs can be used.
That's a difficult one, because with opt-out what do you do with all the people who don't know about it or forget to refuse?
I think the family always has the last say about it, despite a donor card.
Can't get a donor card anymore. Lost my old one and asked in DRs, health centres, hospital for one but they don't do them due to change in rules where relatives make final decision even if you do carry a card. If anyone has a spare card then please send it to me.
Personal view is the motive may be good and it may generate debate as is happening now but the way it is being done cheapens the whole thing.
As some of you know my wife is a theatre sister so has been involved in transplants on both sides including tonning it down motorways with a kidney in a cooler box (with police escort!) to get it to the recipient in time. It's a wonderful thing to be able to do for someone when you have died but can understand that some people have religous or other qualms about it.
If you would except a transplant when ill it seems to me only fair that you tell your relatives that you'd be willing to donate if you died suddenly so when they are asked it is easier for them to make a decision if nothing else. But that's just my view.
[cite]Posted By: Dutch Addick[/cite]It's not my cup of tea either, but the main reason they do it is to get attention for the whole lack of donors problem.
With this show this problem gets more attention than ever and hopefully it will start a good discussion about it.
Mind you, this show is broadcasted by a television channel who's young owner died from kidney disease 5 years ago, so I think they will broadcast it in a quite modest way. It's the other press who jumped to conclusions immediately. A bit cynical maybe, but a 33% chance for a new kidney in this show is a whole lot more than the chance they have on the waiting list and there's the real problem, not the show itself. So everyone who thinks this show is a shame should ask him/herself: what have I done about this problem?
In which case I'm sure all the revenue made from the screening of this programme will be swiftly donated to a suitable charity that supports those in needs of organs.... right?
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]seems to me only fair that you tell your relatives that you'd be willing to donate if you died suddenly so when they are asked it is easier for them to make a decision if nothing else. But that's just my view.
[cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]In which case I'm sure all the revenue made from the screening of this programme will be swiftly donated to a suitable charity that supports those in needs of organs.... right?
This is not a commercial broadcaster, but more like the BBC funded with public money, so no commercials.
"As some of you know my wife is a theatre sister ... "
My hubbie is transplant coordinator for the ITU ward he works on*; has the enviable task of approaching relatives and asking the question ...
We've discussed our wishes and we both know what each other wants should the situation arise (though you'd probably have to beat either of our livers out of us ....)
(* I say is; I think he still is - and yes we do communicate!)
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]Can't get a donor card anymore. Lost my old one and asked in DRs, health centres, hospital for one but they don't do them due to change in rules where relatives make final decision even if you do carry a card. If anyone has a spare card then please send it to me.
I believe that you can set out your donor details on your driving licence now.
Ive always been reluctant to carry a donors card as I cant quite give up on my life yet and I need them all. However, should one day I am confirmed dead - and I mean 110% dead - no more - cease to be - fallen off my perch etc and the doctors consider my organs useful they can help themselves.
Just a thought on promoting organ donation and possibly healthy living - a bit of a contradiction but stay with me on this one. Perhaps the funeral costs could be reduced by the amount you weigh? This could mean how much weight was lost depending on the number of organs you are able to donate?......on second thought perhaps not.
turned out to be a hoax to raise awareness.
contestants are all waiting for donors and were aware.
with all the worldwide media coverage it has generated, it certainly has done what it set out to do.
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(Not word for word this)
"Sir Joseph Bazalgette succeeded in one of the biggest civil engineering feats ever by building a massively extensive sewage system to take away all the London excrement. Interestingly, his (relative of some sort), Peter Bazalgette, is in charge of Endemol, a production company who is happily pumping $hit back into your homes via your televisions."
With this show this problem gets more attention than ever and hopefully it will start a good discussion about it.
Mind you, this show is broadcasted by a television channel who's young owner died from kidney disease 5 years ago, so I think they will broadcast it in a quite modest way. It's the other press who jumped to conclusions immediately. A bit cynical maybe, but a 33% chance for a new kidney in this show is a whole lot more than the chance they have on the waiting list and there's the real problem, not the show itself. So everyone who thinks this show is a shame should ask him/herself: what have I done about this problem?
I carry a donor card.
Surely the reason behind the show is to sell advertising space and make them money? I am sure they can come up with a psuedo-altruistic reason to stave off criticism but it doesn't wash with me I am afraid. If you want to draw attention to this surely there are other ways to do it?
Carry a donor card. Tell your mates to do likewise. Boycott this shameful programme.
i'm sure the losing 2 contestants will be satisfied with their 'weekend for 2 in scarborough' consolation prizes.
there are loads of areas of shortfalls in most health services but is a game show the right way to highlight it?
what next?
who's lung is it anyway
ready steady croak
And what if 5% of the viewers start carrying a donor card after watching this show?
Mind you, these contestants are not helpless victims, but they know perfectly well what they are doing.
You need bell ringers to start solving a problem and maybe this one is it.
problem solved.
to vote on this years big brother call 0845???????.
calls will cost £100 per second and a couple of pints of blood. mobile rates may cost an organ.
Just by carrying a donor card doesnt necessarly mean that your organs can be used.
That's a difficult one, because with opt-out what do you do with all the people who don't know about it or forget to refuse?
I think the family always has the last say about it, despite a donor card.
Personal view is the motive may be good and it may generate debate as is happening now but the way it is being done cheapens the whole thing.
As some of you know my wife is a theatre sister so has been involved in transplants on both sides including tonning it down motorways with a kidney in a cooler box (with police escort!) to get it to the recipient in time. It's a wonderful thing to be able to do for someone when you have died but can understand that some people have religous or other qualms about it.
If you would except a transplant when ill it seems to me only fair that you tell your relatives that you'd be willing to donate if you died suddenly so when they are asked it is easier for them to make a decision if nothing else. But that's just my view.
In which case I'm sure all the revenue made from the screening of this programme will be swiftly donated to a suitable charity that supports those in needs of organs.... right?
and my view
This is not a commercial broadcaster, but more like the BBC funded with public money, so no commercials.
My hubbie is transplant coordinator for the ITU ward he works on*; has the enviable task of approaching relatives and asking the question ...
We've discussed our wishes and we both know what each other wants should the situation arise (though you'd probably have to beat either of our livers out of us ....)
(* I say is; I think he still is - and yes we do communicate!)
Not the easiest job in the world. Which hospital? my wife works at Barts (the hospital, not AFKAs mansion)
I believe that you can set out your donor details on your driving licence now.
and Sco's right, it's with the photo driving licence
Just a thought on promoting organ donation and possibly healthy living - a bit of a contradiction but stay with me on this one. Perhaps the funeral costs could be reduced by the amount you weigh? This could mean how much weight was lost depending on the number of organs you are able to donate?......on second thought perhaps not.
contestants are all waiting for donors and were aware.
with all the worldwide media coverage it has generated, it certainly has done what it set out to do.