Green's misdemeanour of lying is trivial compared to the offence of the ex police officers making and keeping copies of, and making public, private information they retrieved that had no bearing on the case being investigated at the time and indicated no illegal activity. Their offence deserves jail time. It is deeply disturbing. I expect this sort thing happens all the time in religious police states like Pakistan and Iran. It is deeply deeply shocking it can happen here.
I am of the belief that the police should be able to access any computer or phone in the fight against terrorism. But in providing these powers to the police we must ensure they respect absolutely an individual's right to privacy. An important way this power can be monitored is to make it a crime with an automatic 10 year jail sentence for any police officer who is found to have made copies and or made public private information retrieved during the search of any device belonging to a private citizen or a public or private enterprise/organisation.
Green's misdemeanour of lying is trivial compared to the offence of the ex police officers making and keeping copies of, and making public, private information they retrieved that had no bearing on the case being investigated at the time and indicated no illegal activity. Their offence deserves jail time. It is deeply disturbing. I expect this sort thing happens all the time in religious police states like Pakistan and Iran. It is deeply deeply shocking it can happen here.
I am of the belief that the police should be able to access any computer or phone in the fight against terrorism. But in providing these powers to the police we must ensure they respect absolutely an individual's right to privacy. An important way this power can be monitored is to make it a crime with an automatic 10 year jail sentence for any police officer who is found to have made copies and or made public private information retrieved during the search of any device belonging to a private citizen or a public or private enterprise/organisation.
Disgraceful behaviour, I'm sure the individuals will be charged
Lied over having porn on his Commons computer. What a numpty. First for looking at porn at work, then for lying about it when the truth was always going to come out with Old Bill on the case.
That’s not accurate. He mislead the press that he knew anything about it. When he had his lawyers on the case some years ago and then took a phone call about the allegations in 2013. He still denies the allegations including any improper advances towards the lady journalists.
Fair point. The headline I saw implied he'd lied about having the porn. Still short of the standards we should expect of those we ask to run the country.
I don’t know when these people that get done for porn will learn
Make sure your work computer uses one search engine and your personal ones (including phones), uses another. That way when I’m at work and type ‘a’ into google, anal cheerleaders doesn’t come up as a search choice, and when I’m at home on my phone using yahoo, digital change and transformation doesn’t come up when I type in ‘d’
Happily people at Apple must have had similar issue and they have created ‘private browsing’ mode where no search history is saved.
Looking for the ‘presents for the missus’ is fairly untraceable by the missus.....
Green's misdemeanour of lying is trivial compared to the offence of the ex police officers making and keeping copies of, and making public, private information they retrieved that had no bearing on the case being investigated at the time and indicated no illegal activity. Their offence deserves jail time. It is deeply disturbing. I expect this sort thing happens all the time in religious police states like Pakistan and Iran. It is deeply deeply shocking it can happen here.
I am of the belief that the police should be able to access any computer or phone in the fight against terrorism. But in providing these powers to the police we must ensure they respect absolutely an individual's right to privacy. An important way this power can be monitored is to make it a crime with an automatic 10 year jail sentence for any police officer who is found to have made copies and or made public private information retrieved during the search of any device belonging to a private citizen or a public or private enterprise/organisation.
Disgraceful behaviour, I'm sure the individuals will be charged
They certainly should be, this is deplorable behaviour.
Green's misdemeanour of lying is trivial compared to the offence of the ex police officers making and keeping copies of, and making public, private information they retrieved that had no bearing on the case being investigated at the time and indicated no illegal activity. Their offence deserves jail time. It is deeply disturbing. I expect this sort thing happens all the time in religious police states like Pakistan and Iran. It is deeply deeply shocking it can happen here.
I am of the belief that the police should be able to access any computer or phone in the fight against terrorism. But in providing these powers to the police we must ensure they respect absolutely an individual's right to privacy. An important way this power can be monitored is to make it a crime with an automatic 10 year jail sentence for any police officer who is found to have made copies and or made public private information retrieved during the search of any device belonging to a private citizen or a public or private enterprise/organisation.
As usual I'm on the other side of the fence on this one. The 2nd police officer who went public with this was, in my view, purely a whistleblower. He was refuting that Damian Green stated that he had no knowledge of any porn on his computer, whereas the police officer had seen said computer, had retrieved & viewed the pictures & was saying that there was (in his opinion) no way that Damian Green couldn't have known about it. The result being Damian Green being found out to be a liar. I applaud the policeman for coming forward & saying that Damian Green lied.
Green's misdemeanour of lying is trivial compared to the offence of the ex police officers making and keeping copies of, and making public, private information they retrieved that had no bearing on the case being investigated at the time and indicated no illegal activity. Their offence deserves jail time. It is deeply disturbing. I expect this sort thing happens all the time in religious police states like Pakistan and Iran. It is deeply deeply shocking it can happen here.
I am of the belief that the police should be able to access any computer or phone in the fight against terrorism. But in providing these powers to the police we must ensure they respect absolutely an individual's right to privacy. An important way this power can be monitored is to make it a crime with an automatic 10 year jail sentence for any police officer who is found to have made copies and or made public private information retrieved during the search of any device belonging to a private citizen or a public or private enterprise/organisation.
It was a a legitimate search of a laptop owned by the civil service to find, ironically, the leak to Damien Green's office, nothing to do with terrorism.
What do you think the sentence should be for lying to Parliament or being implicit in leaking home office documents with national security classification?
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
Green's misdemeanour of lying is trivial compared to the offence of the ex police officers making and keeping copies of, and making public, private information they retrieved that had no bearing on the case being investigated at the time and indicated no illegal activity. Their offence deserves jail time. It is deeply disturbing. I expect this sort thing happens all the time in religious police states like Pakistan and Iran. It is deeply deeply shocking it can happen here.
I am of the belief that the police should be able to access any computer or phone in the fight against terrorism. But in providing these powers to the police we must ensure they respect absolutely an individual's right to privacy. An important way this power can be monitored is to make it a crime with an automatic 10 year jail sentence for any police officer who is found to have made copies and or made public private information retrieved during the search of any device belonging to a private citizen or a public or private enterprise/organisation.
It was a a legitimate search of a laptop owned by the civil service to find, ironically, the leak to Damien Green's office, nothing to do with terrorism.
What do you think the sentence should be for lying to Parliament or being implicit in leaking home office documents with national security classification?
Who suggested the initial search of his computer was anything to do with terrorism?
I am sure there are existing laws and punishments for lying to Parliament and leaking classified information.
Was he originally charged with either of those charges?
I think David Davis should be charged for his lies to Parliament about the impact papers. And I think there should be new laws so that we can charge people and organisations who blatantly lie to the British electorate the way the Brexit campaign did.
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
One is the extremely questionable actions by the police officers in releasing confidential information regarding the contents of Greens House of Commons computer gained under an official enquiry. They should be investigated and if appropriate be taken before the courts.
Two is the fact that regardless of how the information came into the public domain it is there. You can’t put that genie back into the bottle. Green as is his absolute right has continued to deny viewing the porn. It’s certain that we will never know the truth behind that. What is certain though is that the Deputy Prime Minister lied that he had knowledge of the porn on his computer. Twice. He is a liar.
It is not appropriate for a minister of state to be a proven liar when looking to protect his image.
He could very easily have said I knew about the allegations but as I deny the images were viewed by me I don’t think it’s important. He didn’t. For reasons only he knows he looked to deceive his parliamentary colleagues and the nation.
On that basis he had to go. He is a liar.
The fact that they are all liars when it suits is neither here nor there. He lied to protect his image.
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
No of course I don't. That's what I'm saying in the last paragraph
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
One is the extremely questionable actions by the police officers in releasing confidential information regarding the contents of Greens House of Commons computer gained under an official enquiry. They should be investigated and if appropriate be taken before the courts.
Two is the fact that regardless of how the information came into the public domain it is there. You can’t put that genie back into the bottle. Green as is his absolute right has continued to deny viewing the porn. It’s certain that we will never know the truth behind that. What is certain though is that the Deputy Prime Minister lied that he had knowledge of the porn on his computer. Twice. He is a liar.
It is not appropriate for a minister of state to be a proven liar when looking to protect his image.
He could very easily have said I knew about the allegations but as I deny the images were viewed by me I don’t think it’s important. He didn’t. For reasons only he knows he looked to deceive his parliamentary colleagues and the nation.
On that basis he had to go. He is a liar.
The fact that they are all liars when it suits is neither here nor there. He lied to protect his image.
I agree 100% with everything you have written in that post. But in addition I could not give a shit if he downloaded or viewed legal porn on his computer. As far as I am aware he does not promote himself as some sort of evangelical Christian politician. It is completely trivial compared to police mishandling of data recovered in the course of an investigation.
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
A number of MPs have confirmed that they share their user ID and passwords with the staff who work in their office.
One is the extremely questionable actions by the police officers in releasing confidential information regarding the contents of Greens House of Commons computer gained under an official enquiry. They should be investigated and if appropriate be taken before the courts.
Two is the fact that regardless of how the information came into the public domain it is there. You can’t put that genie back into the bottle. Green as is his absolute right has continued to deny viewing the porn. It’s certain that we will never know the truth behind that. What is certain though is that the Deputy Prime Minister lied that he had knowledge of the porn on his computer. Twice. He is a liar.
It is not appropriate for a minister of state to be a proven liar when looking to protect his image.
He could very easily have said I knew about the allegations but as I deny the images were viewed by me I don’t think it’s important. He didn’t. For reasons only he knows he looked to deceive his parliamentary colleagues and the nation.
On that basis he had to go. He is a liar.
The fact that they are all liars when it suits is neither here nor there. He lied to protect his image.
I agree 100% with everything you have written in that post. But in addition I could not give a shit if he downloaded or viewed legal porn on his computer. As far as I am aware he does not promote himself as some sort of evangelical Christian politician. It is completely trivial compared to police mishandling of data recovered in the course of an investigation.
Agree. Watching the porn is nothing more than embarrassing for someone in his position. It’s not illegal porn although it’s not questionable that doing so at work is a no no and in many jobs a sackable offence but as it can’t be proved it was him and he denies it. Move on.
He wasn’t sacked for that. Rightly so. He was sacked for lying. Also rightly so. The allegations made by Malt also show him in a poor light and it is accepted she is a plausible witness. May had no alternative than other than get rid.
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
A number of MPs have confirmed that they share their user ID and passwords with the staff who work in their office.
It’s a plausible if unsatisfactory excuse which is convenient for him. However the police officers who broke the news have stated that the pornographic browsing element of the computer interrogations conducted found that porn sites were visited between the sending and confirmed receipt of e mails. It was also conducted in a private sole use office which was locked when not used by DG.
I certainly have a lot of respect for the balls of the individual on Greens staff who obviously let himself into that office. Plonked himself down into the bosses chair and set about knocking one out. Tidied himself up and hid the evidence from his Minister. Quite a smooth operator. It’s a shame we don’t know his identity. He would make an ideal Brexit lead and being a wanker would fit right in.
I do feel that Damian Green is jinxed though. How on earth did his private e mail address get onto the Ashley Maddison data base ? The office wanking mole really did have it in for his boss.
If only Sherlock Holmes was available to come up with another theory.
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
A number of MPs have confirmed that they share their user ID and passwords with the staff who work in their office.
It’s a plausible if unsatisfactory excuse which is convenient for him. However the police officers who broke the news have stated that the pornographic browsing element of the computer interrogations conducted found that porn sites were visited between the sending and confirmed receipt of e mails. It was also conducted in a private sole use office which was locked when not used by DG.
I certainly have a lot of respect for the balls of the individual on Greens staff who obviously let himself into that office. Plonked himself down into the bosses chair and set about knocking one out. Tidied himself up and hid the evidence from his Minister. Quite a smooth operator. It’s a shame we don’t know his identity. He would make an ideal Brexit lead and being a wanker would fit right in.
I do feel that Damian Green is jinxed though. How on earth did his private e mail address get onto the Ashley Maddison data base ? The office wanking mole really did have it in for his boss.
If only Sherlock Holmes was available to come up with another theory.
I'm in now way trained in the dark arts of detective work but that is how I see it too mate. Even if we park all the wrongness he's been up to on a work PC (allegedly, this could be a stitch up) he's now got a reputation as a liar. And I'm a lot less surprised at that given he is a politician therefore a professional liar.
In my totally unqualified opinion he is at best a thicko at worst a complete sack of untruths and deviancy
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
A number of MPs have confirmed that they share their user ID and passwords with the staff who work in their office.
It’s a plausible if unsatisfactory excuse which is convenient for him. However the police officers who broke the news have stated that the pornographic browsing element of the computer interrogations conducted found that porn sites were visited between the sending and confirmed receipt of e mails. It was also conducted in a private sole use office which was locked when not used by DG.
I certainly have a lot of respect for the balls of the individual on Greens staff who obviously let himself into that office. Plonked himself down into the bosses chair and set about knocking one out. Tidied himself up and hid the evidence from his Minister. Quite a smooth operator. It’s a shame we don’t know his identity. He would make an ideal Brexit lead and being a wanker would fit right in.
I do feel that Damian Green is jinxed though. How on earth did his private e mail address get onto the Ashley Maddison data base ? The office wanking mole really did have it in for his boss.
If only Sherlock Holmes was available to come up with another theory.
It is just a fact. Irrelevant whether people think it is plausible.
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
A number of MPs have confirmed that they share their user ID and passwords with the staff who work in their office.
It’s a plausible if unsatisfactory excuse which is convenient for him. However the police officers who broke the news have stated that the pornographic browsing element of the computer interrogations conducted found that porn sites were visited between the sending and confirmed receipt of e mails. It was also conducted in a private sole use office which was locked when not used by DG.
I certainly have a lot of respect for the balls of the individual on Greens staff who obviously let himself into that office. Plonked himself down into the bosses chair and set about knocking one out. Tidied himself up and hid the evidence from his Minister. Quite a smooth operator. It’s a shame we don’t know his identity. He would make an ideal Brexit lead and being a wanker would fit right in.
I do feel that Damian Green is jinxed though. How on earth did his private e mail address get onto the Ashley Maddison data base ? The office wanking mole really did have it in for his boss.
If only Sherlock Holmes was available to come up with another theory.
It is just a fact. Irrelevant whether people think it is plausible.
It might be a fact for some MP’s but we don’t know that’s a fact for him do we ? Have any of his staff admitted that they used his password ?
I used to think politicians, whilst being lying , philandering parasites were intelligent people.
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
He denies downloading or viewing the porn on his computer. Have you reason to believe there is evidence that proves 100% that he is lying?
The 2nd policeman sho went to the BBC last month said that the images were on Damien Greens computer,that was in his room, which was locked when he wasn't in there. It was also found that the browsing history was "sandwiched" between emails that Damian Green had been receiving & replying to at the time. I think in the realms of "reasonable doubt" that if I was on a jury, I would have no qualms of finding him guilty. No-one can ever be 100% sure, but the evidence (as the policeman gave it) was pretty damning.
A number of MPs have confirmed that they share their user ID and passwords with the staff who work in their office.
It’s a plausible if unsatisfactory excuse which is convenient for him. However the police officers who broke the news have stated that the pornographic browsing element of the computer interrogations conducted found that porn sites were visited between the sending and confirmed receipt of e mails. It was also conducted in a private sole use office which was locked when not used by DG.
I certainly have a lot of respect for the balls of the individual on Greens staff who obviously let himself into that office. Plonked himself down into the bosses chair and set about knocking one out. Tidied himself up and hid the evidence from his Minister. Quite a smooth operator. It’s a shame we don’t know his identity. He would make an ideal Brexit lead and being a wanker would fit right in.
I do feel that Damian Green is jinxed though. How on earth did his private e mail address get onto the Ashley Maddison data base ? The office wanking mole really did have it in for his boss.
If only Sherlock Holmes was available to come up with another theory.
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Looking for the ‘presents for the missus’ is fairly untraceable by the missus.....
What do you think the sentence should be for lying to Parliament or being implicit in leaking home office documents with national security classification?
Now, I hate the phrase people use "If I'd have done that I'd have been sacked" because it's usually bollocks.
However, I've seen more people removed from the payroll at my place for the misuse of a work computer than for anything else over the last 20 years. And I don't work in an industry dominated by geniuses, nor is my laptop paid for by people's income tax, nor have I ever been so moronic as to look at anything that could get me in a situation that could lead to me answering questions about something like "why have you got 10,000 hours of Hungarian dwarf porn on your work laptop"
What a fucking dickhead, what an utter idiot and one that proves to me how disconnected this bloke is from the real world when surely even a chimp would know not to do anything deviant on a work tool.
Then there is the issue of the copper doing this search under a law that exists to prevent terrorism and then deciding to keep hold of the evidence from what was effectively a private job. This also calls into question whether or not this smut was planted on Greens PC.
I am sure there are existing laws and punishments for lying to Parliament and leaking classified information.
Was he originally charged with either of those charges?
I think David Davis should be charged for his lies to Parliament about the impact papers. And I think there should be new laws so that we can charge people and organisations who blatantly lie to the British electorate the way the Brexit campaign did.
One is the extremely questionable actions by the police officers in releasing confidential information regarding the contents of Greens House of Commons computer gained under an official enquiry. They should be investigated and if appropriate be taken before the courts.
Two is the fact that regardless of how the information came into the public domain it is there. You can’t put that genie back into the bottle. Green as is his absolute right has continued to deny viewing the porn. It’s certain that we will never know the truth behind that. What is certain though is that the Deputy Prime Minister lied that he had knowledge of the porn on his computer. Twice. He is a liar.
It is not appropriate for a minister of state to be a proven liar when looking to protect his image.
He could very easily have said I knew about the allegations but as I deny the images were viewed by me I don’t think it’s important. He didn’t. For reasons only he knows he looked to deceive his parliamentary colleagues and the nation.
On that basis he had to go. He is a liar.
The fact that they are all liars when it suits is neither here nor there. He lied to protect his image.
He wasn’t sacked for that. Rightly so. He was sacked for lying. Also rightly so. The allegations made by Malt also show him in a poor light and it is accepted she is a plausible witness. May had no alternative than other than get rid.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11818088/Ashley-Madison-Former-Tory-minister-Damian-Green-denies-involvement-in-adultery-website.html
I certainly have a lot of respect for the balls of the individual on Greens staff who obviously let himself into that office. Plonked himself down into the bosses chair and set about knocking one out. Tidied himself up and hid the evidence from his Minister. Quite a smooth operator. It’s a shame we don’t know his identity. He would make an ideal Brexit lead and being a wanker would fit right in.
I do feel that Damian Green is jinxed though. How on earth did his private e mail address get onto the Ashley Maddison data base ? The office wanking mole really did have it in for his boss.
If only Sherlock Holmes was available to come up with another theory.
In my totally unqualified opinion he is at best a thicko at worst a complete sack of untruths and deviancy