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  • shine166 said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    shine166 said:
    What's the current zil top end expectations for the year now ? Trying to leave mine staked until October. 


    Ha ! Yeah pure guesswork I know, just wondered if $1 had changed to something more realistic. 

    $1 puts it 10bio marketcap at p20... Just behind Tron. I dont think it's undreasonable to think that is possible.
  • cafcpolo said:
    shine166 said:
    What's the current zil top end expectations for the year now ? Trying to leave mine staked until October. 
    If all goes well, I'll be unstaking early September, flogging the lot two weeks later for $1.20 and contemplating retiring @ 36!

    Bear market hits in Q3, give it a year then go again.
    Il have some of that! I'm a relative newcomer compared to most, but its still a very nice chunk of cash towards a gaff. 
  • edited May 2021
    Random question, but say you put in around 10k to cryptos and take out 40k for example a few months later after a good few months, how much of that 40k would you receive in the end once you've paid tax on it? 
  • edited May 2021
    Random question, but say you put in around 10k to cryptos and take out 40k for example a few months later after a good few months, how much of that 40k would you receive in the end once you've paid tax on it? 
    Depends on your other earnings as well, but say you earn £30k pa you'd have to pay £1.8k in CGT. £40k pa would be around £2.5k CGT. Top end would be around 3.5k if you earn 51k pa. So on 30k profit, minimum would be 26.5k take home.
  • Or wash it through a friendly Swiss based lifer for 5%
  • *Legal Disclaimer ... that was a joke :D
  • Must thank you all for highlighting Zil.  Went in last month and it’s landed a healthy profit
    for now.  Would love for it just to get to £0.30p to be honest 
  • cafcpolo said:
    shine166 said:
    What's the current zil top end expectations for the year now ? Trying to leave mine staked until October. 
    If all goes well, I'll be unstaking early September, flogging the lot two weeks later for $1.20 and contemplating retiring @ 36!

    Bear market hits in Q3, give it a year then go again.
    Not gonna short the market all the way back down again?
  • cafcpolo said:
    shine166 said:
    What's the current zil top end expectations for the year now ? Trying to leave mine staked until October. 
    If all goes well, I'll be unstaking early September, flogging the lot two weeks later for $1.20 and contemplating retiring @ 36!

    Bear market hits in Q3, give it a year then go again.
    Not gonna short the market all the way back down again?
    Actually meant Q4 but either way, depends on how much the rest of my portfolio is worth.

    I should have around 200 GZIL by then which will be worth a good amount. However, I really want to HODL those for a good few years as they are not expected to hit total max supply (722K) and minting ends in October. Pillar coming soon as well which will burn them up.
  • cafcpolo said:
    cafcpolo said:
    shine166 said:
    What's the current zil top end expectations for the year now ? Trying to leave mine staked until October. 
    If all goes well, I'll be unstaking early September, flogging the lot two weeks later for $1.20 and contemplating retiring @ 36!

    Bear market hits in Q3, give it a year then go again.
    Not gonna short the market all the way back down again?
    Actually meant Q4 but either way, depends on how much the rest of my portfolio is worth.

    I should have around 200 GZIL by then which will be worth a good amount. However, I really want to HODL those for a good few years as they are not expected to hit total max supply (722K) and minting ends in October. Pillar coming soon as well which will burn them up.
    Yeah you're definitely in a completely different league than me 😂. 
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  • shine166 said:
    cafcpolo said:
    cafcpolo said:
    shine166 said:
    What's the current zil top end expectations for the year now ? Trying to leave mine staked until October. 
    If all goes well, I'll be unstaking early September, flogging the lot two weeks later for $1.20 and contemplating retiring @ 36!

    Bear market hits in Q3, give it a year then go again.
    Not gonna short the market all the way back down again?
    Actually meant Q4 but either way, depends on how much the rest of my portfolio is worth.

    I should have around 200 GZIL by then which will be worth a good amount. However, I really want to HODL those for a good few years as they are not expected to hit total max supply (722K) and minting ends in October. Pillar coming soon as well which will burn them up.
    Yeah you're definitely in a completely different league than me 😂. 
    I picked up most of my ZIL when it was sub half a cent, that's the biggest reason I have so many. Caught it at the perfect time (more luck than judgement).

    Staking has added a lot and dabbled in liquidity mining for a month which gave me a great return.


  • Perfect retest... now send it!
  • CAFCsayer said:


    Perfect retest... now send it!
    Slight hidden bullish divergence too.
  • edited May 2021
    CAFCsayer said:


    Perfect retest... now send it!
    Slight hidden bullish divergence too.


    Crudely drawn as on phone but there it is.
  • Team.

    As a relative Crypto newbie, currently holding bags in BTC, ETH, ZIL, ADA, DOT. (Thinking of investing in ALGO as everyone on reddit seems to talk about it)

    When the next bear market hits what should I be looking to do. My plan is to HODL these long term so do I just continue to DCA into them, or do I look to convert to a stablecoin, or do I take profit and ride it out?
  • Team.

    As a relative Crypto newbie, currently holding bags in BTC, ETH, ZIL, ADA, DOT. (Thinking of investing in ALGO as everyone on reddit seems to talk about it)

    When the next bear market hits what should I be looking to do. My plan is to HODL these long term so do I just continue to DCA into them, or do I look to convert to a stablecoin, or do I take profit and ride it out?

    I wouldnt just sit on it... last time bear market hit the vast majority of alts were 90% down from highs... I dont think it will be that bad this time around, but if youre wanting to hold long-term, if it really starts going tits up I would be going into tether and then trying to re-enter as low as possible
  • CAFCsayer said:
    Team.

    As a relative Crypto newbie, currently holding bags in BTC, ETH, ZIL, ADA, DOT. (Thinking of investing in ALGO as everyone on reddit seems to talk about it)

    When the next bear market hits what should I be looking to do. My plan is to HODL these long term so do I just continue to DCA into them, or do I look to convert to a stablecoin, or do I take profit and ride it out?

    I wouldnt just sit on it... last time bear market hit the vast majority of alts were 90% down from highs... I dont think it will be that bad this time around, but if youre wanting to hold long-term, if it really starts going tits up I would be going into tether and then trying to re-enter as low as possible
    Awesome, thanks.

    So I have the majority of my crypto on a ledger, and my ZIL currently staked through Zillet.io. If I was worried and wanted to go into a stablecoin would the process be something like transfer all that back to Binance where I purchased it, then trade it into Tether. Or is there a better way to avoid the fees?

    I'm still reeling from the the amount of BTC I lost putting it on my ledger in the first place ha ha.

    Apologies for the newb questions.
  • CAFCsayer said:
    Team.

    As a relative Crypto newbie, currently holding bags in BTC, ETH, ZIL, ADA, DOT. (Thinking of investing in ALGO as everyone on reddit seems to talk about it)

    When the next bear market hits what should I be looking to do. My plan is to HODL these long term so do I just continue to DCA into them, or do I look to convert to a stablecoin, or do I take profit and ride it out?

    I wouldnt just sit on it... last time bear market hit the vast majority of alts were 90% down from highs... I dont think it will be that bad this time around, but if youre wanting to hold long-term, if it really starts going tits up I would be going into tether and then trying to re-enter as low as possible
    Awesome, thanks.

    So I have the majority of my crypto on a ledger, and my ZIL currently staked through Zillet.io. If I was worried and wanted to go into a stablecoin would the process be something like transfer all that back to Binance where I purchased it, then trade it into Tether. Or is there a better way to avoid the fees?

    I'm still reeling from the the amount of BTC I lost putting it on my ledger in the first place ha ha.

    Apologies for the newb questions.
    You could go down that route. I don't think the fees would be too bad. Other option would be to get a ZilPay wallet, transfer it there and use ZilSwap to get XSGD which is the Singapore dollar stablecoin.
  • Look like Ada is stopping being a stablecoin and moving on up 
  • edited May 2021
    Team.

    As a relative Crypto newbie, currently holding bags in BTC, ETH, ZIL, ADA, DOT. (Thinking of investing in ALGO as everyone on reddit seems to talk about it)

    When the next bear market hits what should I be looking to do. My plan is to HODL these long term so do I just continue to DCA into them, or do I look to convert to a stablecoin, or do I take profit and ride it out?
    Rotate to Stable coin and stake, you can get 10% apy on usdc lending on protocols like AAVE, these rates held up even during the huge dip black swan event last February when the pandemic hit. The dca into that (almost like a savings account) - you’ll likely outperform the market. You’ll then be in a great position to rotate back into Bitcoin when it bottoms out. 

    Alternatively you could look to short coins like doge that will crumble down quite significantly. 
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  • CAFCsayer said:
    Team.

    As a relative Crypto newbie, currently holding bags in BTC, ETH, ZIL, ADA, DOT. (Thinking of investing in ALGO as everyone on reddit seems to talk about it)

    When the next bear market hits what should I be looking to do. My plan is to HODL these long term so do I just continue to DCA into them, or do I look to convert to a stablecoin, or do I take profit and ride it out?

    I wouldnt just sit on it... last time bear market hit the vast majority of alts were 90% down from highs... I dont think it will be that bad this time around, but if youre wanting to hold long-term, if it really starts going tits up I would be going into tether and then trying to re-enter as low as possible
    Awesome, thanks.

    So I have the majority of my crypto on a ledger, and my ZIL currently staked through Zillet.io. If I was worried and wanted to go into a stablecoin would the process be something like transfer all that back to Binance where I purchased it, then trade it into Tether. Or is there a better way to avoid the fees?

    I'm still reeling from the the amount of BTC I lost putting it on my ledger in the first place ha ha.

    Apologies for the newb questions.
    Yes, probably the cheapest option in terms of fees. 
  • Presumably have to pay capital gains tax when converting into Tether still?
  • Presumably have to pay capital gains tax when converting into Tether still?
    No expert, but thought you only pay it on realised fiat gains in uk?
  • Not sure tbh!  Was my thinking to move some into Tether but don't want to get clobbered on CGT
  • Not sure tbh!  Was my thinking to move some into Tether but don't want to get clobbered on CGT
    USDT is still a crypto. You've not "cashed" out, so no way you'd get done for CGT.
  • Good news!  Given mainly using this as a bet against govt/central bank incompetence a bit galling to even consider tax implications on it!
  • edited May 2021
    CAFCsayer said:
    Presumably have to pay capital gains tax when converting into Tether still?
    No expert, but thought you only pay it on realised fiat gains in uk?
    No, i think that its everytime you trade from one crypto to another it becomes a taxable event if you're above the threshold for CGT: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-you-need-to-pay-tax-when-you-sell-cryptoassets

    Which includes trading into a stablecoin.

    Regardless, probably best to find an accountant who specialises in crypto assets if you do think you're liable. 
  • Thanks for the link @kentaddick
  • CAFCsayer said:
    Presumably have to pay capital gains tax when converting into Tether still?
    No expert, but thought you only pay it on realised fiat gains in uk?
    No, i think that its everytime you trade from one crypto to another it becomes a taxable event if you're above the threshold for CGT: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-you-need-to-pay-tax-when-you-sell-cryptoassets

    Which includes trading into a stablecoin.

    Regardless, probably best to find an accountant who specialises in crypto assets if you do think you're liable. 
    Cheeky fuckers.
  • cafcpolo said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    Presumably have to pay capital gains tax when converting into Tether still?
    No expert, but thought you only pay it on realised fiat gains in uk?
    No, i think that its everytime you trade from one crypto to another it becomes a taxable event if you're above the threshold for CGT: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-you-need-to-pay-tax-when-you-sell-cryptoassets

    Which includes trading into a stablecoin.

    Regardless, probably best to find an accountant who specialises in crypto assets if you do think you're liable. 
    Cheeky fuckers.
    its built to make trading as unprofitable as possible. That combined with outlawing uk companies to offer crypto derivatives trading makes it a hostile country for crypto. If i ever make it "big" in crypto i'll just move to somewhere like vietnam which has really friendly crypto laws and live like a king there for a bit. 

    Still a laugably long way from doing that though!
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