I have watched the Press conference on Valley Pass and I have to say that Robinson looks a defeated man. You shouldn't believe the lies that Duchatelet and Meire told you Karl. To say he is frustrated is an understatement. How is he going to lift the players for Saturday?
This is why I get frustrated with people trying to push the Robinson out stuff.
It's obvious we are in a pickle and there is all sorts of nonsense going on behind the scenes.
The last thing we need is the fans at this moment in time adding additional onto the manager imo
I am not for Robinson out now, I am for Robinson out the second ink is dry on the contract of new ownership.
He may have been the best option under the conditions of our club being a joke with an insane owner that no self respecting manager would touch with a barge pole but we can and will do better then the one formation, "nice" football playing, nonsense spouting salesman we currently have sitting in the dug out.
Robinson may not be the answer to our problems but he is certainly not the cause of them.
RD must be laughing in his dance hall/dug out if he reads today's posts.
Ok KR has made some cringe worthy comments designed to cosy up to the regime. No manager can be expected to succeed under this regime.
The lack of incoming strikers on the last few days of the summer transfer window was disastrous for us, that's highly likely to be RD's policy's - not KR's imo.
TBH, I’d rather we got players in on loan to the end of the season than buy them and surely a couple more of them could be accommodated in the books. As with Dasilva, the PL clubs must be awash with players that can do a very good job at L1 level and at this stage of the season they will be fit. The summer time is for buying players you really want, January is panic buying time.
We can't loan anyone either whilst under Due Diligence.
This is why I get frustrated with people trying to push the Robinson out stuff.
It's obvious we are in a pickle and there is all sorts of nonsense going on behind the scenes.
The last thing we need is the fans at this moment in time adding additional onto the manager imo
I am not for Robinson out now, I am for Robinson out the second ink is dry on the contract of new ownership.
He may have been the best option under the conditions of our club being a joke with an insane owner that no self respecting manager would touch with a barge pole but we can and will do better then the one formation, "nice" football playing, nonsense spouting salesman we currently have sitting in the dug out.
That's nice of you, personally I am in the "Robinson out if he fails to get us promoted (or at least back into the playoffs)" brigade.
He seems genuinely pissed off at the current situation. He seems to have realised he's made a big F*** up.
TBH, I’d rather we got players in on loan to the end of the season than buy them and surely a couple more of them could be accommodated in the books. As with Dasilva, the PL clubs must be awash with players that can do a very good job at L1 level and at this stage of the season they will be fit. The summer time is for buying players you really want, January is panic buying time.
We can't loan anyone either whilst under Due Diligence.
We can but it would depend on the cost of the loan (wages/fee) and the attitude of the potential buyers.
TBH, I’d rather we got players in on loan to the end of the season than buy them and surely a couple more of them could be accommodated in the books. As with Dasilva, the PL clubs must be awash with players that can do a very good job at L1 level and at this stage of the season they will be fit. The summer time is for buying players you really want, January is panic buying time.
We can't loan anyone either whilst under Due Diligence.
TBH, I’d rather we got players in on loan to the end of the season than buy them and surely a couple more of them could be accommodated in the books. As with Dasilva, the PL clubs must be awash with players that can do a very good job at L1 level and at this stage of the season they will be fit. The summer time is for buying players you really want, January is panic buying time.
We can't loan anyone either whilst under Due Diligence.
We can. How come we just loaned Mavididi ?
Was agreed before KM left. No idea how long ago mind...
TBH, I’d rather we got players in on loan to the end of the season than buy them and surely a couple more of them could be accommodated in the books. As with Dasilva, the PL clubs must be awash with players that can do a very good job at L1 level and at this stage of the season they will be fit. The summer time is for buying players you really want, January is panic buying time.
We can't loan anyone either whilst under Due Diligence.
We will just have to keep rotating the players we have, not through tactics, but every time a player comes back from injury, he gets injured again, but the next game another player comes back and gets injured again, and so on.
What January has ever been decent under Duchatet. All these targets he supposedly had, what chance was there ever of Duchatelet getting them, even if he wasn't selling. Robinson getting in his excuses early.
This is why I get frustrated with people trying to push the Robinson out stuff.
It's obvious we are in a pickle and there is all sorts of nonsense going on behind the scenes.
The last thing we need is the fans at this moment in time adding additional onto the manager imo
I am not for Robinson out now, I am for Robinson out the second ink is dry on the contract of new ownership.
He may have been the best option under the conditions of our club being a joke with an insane owner that no self respecting manager would touch with a barge pole but we can and will do better then the one formation, "nice" football playing, nonsense spouting salesman we currently have sitting in the dug out.
That's nice of you, personally I am in the "Robinson out if he fails to get us promoted (or at least back into the playoffs)" brigade.
He seems genuinely pissed off at the current situation. He seems to have realised he's made a big F*** up.
He knew what he was getting himself into, and if he didn't, then he's clearly an idiot. Everyone in football knows about the shambles running our club, are you telling me that KR had no idea?
Let's not forget he also publicly came out and defended KM at the start of the season, and said that fans needed to stop protesting. He says what suits him, and now he's changed his tune to keep us fans on his side through the shit run of form, and to possibly sell himself as a 'Charlton man' to any new owners.
Utterly depressing but equally utterly predictable.
Would have been the same had there been no takeover discussions.
Exactly. Cant help think that Robinson knows this as well and is using the hard done by angle in that interview. He knew full well what he was in for when he joined.
Not sure he did tbh. He was probably fed bullshit by KM and possibly RD, the same way the fans have been
Im not sure i can have that, when the same people had employed, let down and sacked 6 managers before him.
Fare Fair comment.
Fixed it for you.
I've stupidly worked for people with bad reputations for one thing or other, and got me fingers burnt though.
No offence Mart, buy I ain't taking spelling lessons from a bloke who spells his name backwards
A couple of thoughts having read KR's statement & other comments on here.
1) Could or would RM dip into his pocket to fund any signing ?? How much are we looking at - £250k ? (Keifer Moore). Or get all the directors to club together. I remember Parkinson paying for a player when he was in charge - maybe Robinson can do the same.
2) As we are now very unlikely going to sign anyone during January can we not recall ALL our players that are out on loan, including Ajose & Vetokele ?? It seems daft trying (and failing) to bring in a striker when we have 2 out on loan. They may not be what we really need, but they are better than nothing & they are OURS. Also, wouldn't any new owner want their assets in the building & not in some foreign field.
Just trying to think "outside of the box" as there doesn't seem to be any other options.
if I was in talks to buy the club I wouldn't want KR sanctioning any signings regardless of who was paying the transfer fee as I'd be binning the fat prick as soon as I could and wouldn't want to be paying the wages of someone KR had signed.
A low point of my music 'career' time playing in bands (shambles) was supporting a band called The Dave in a pub in Clapham, in 1978. They were called The Dave because they were all called Dave. Before they went on what was laughingly called the stage. they went into a huddle with their arms round each other. Dave, their leader shouted, 'Get out of your suits and into your jeans, and Let's Go!'. Should have packed it in right there.
Anyway, I've forgotten the point I was trying to make... something about 'fat prick' being a bit rude or something.
One thing that doesn't sound right to me is that Robinson says that Mavididi was all sorted before KM left & so that's why he may be the only signing now that the takeover is happening.
But why him ???? Surely if we had been looking at the striking options then Mavididi should not have been the first option. I realise that we may not have been able to get others "over the line" or that a player (Doyle) may now be injured, but why was Mavididi on the list in the first place ?? Probably a swap for Dodoo, but surely all the effort should have been to get in a main striker first & foremost, not dick around with yet another young, non-scoring wide player who can play up-front (KAG does that). If your No 1 target isn't available then you have to look elsewhere. We all know where the problem is & according to Robinson we have been speaking to agents since November - so why was Mavididi the first one through the door ?? Smacks of Novak leaving & panic loans at the last minute.
“It’s hard for everybody, we know we need to bring in players and we are still doing a lot of work behind the scenes. There are six that I want to bring in and I know probably four of them would walk in this door tomorrow if they could.”
This is why I get frustrated with people trying to push the Robinson out stuff.
It's obvious we are in a pickle and there is all sorts of nonsense going on behind the scenes.
The last thing we need is the fans at this moment in time adding additional onto the manager imo
I am not for Robinson out now, I am for Robinson out the second ink is dry on the contract of new ownership.
He may have been the best option under the conditions of our club being a joke with an insane owner that no self respecting manager would touch with a barge pole but we can and will do better then the one formation, "nice" football playing, nonsense spouting salesman we currently have sitting in the dug out.
That's nice of you, personally I am in the "Robinson out if he fails to get us promoted (or at least back into the playoffs)" brigade.
He seems genuinely pissed off at the current situation. He seems to have realised he's made a big F*** up.
He knew what he was getting himself into, and if he didn't, then he's clearly an idiot. Everyone in football knows about the shambles running our club, are you telling me that KR had no idea?
Let's not forget he also publicly came out and defended KM at the start of the season, and said that fans needed to stop protesting. He says what suits him, and now he's changed his tune to keep us fans on his side through the shit run of form, and to possibly sell himself as a 'Charlton man' to any new owners.
This, not sure how he gets away with this nonsense with some fans but he does.
I have tried today to sit back and take this in, at any other club or even here under different ownership it is quite an exceptional interview.
Because of the mess we are in it loses context a little as we just shrug it off as another kick in the bollox.
Being so pissed off after the Southend & Gillingham performances, I was signing up to the Robinson out camp, so far we have seen a lack of ability to adapt tactically, the rushung back of injured players and a lot of talk about pride, passion and wanting to make us happy. This was often then tainted with the 'hands up, head back' routine where his says 'listen, I'll be honest with you, the owner and Katrien, who I know you dont like, have been fantastic..blah blah. It seems like I have heard it a hundred times.
Now is the time for him to move on from it, yes we are in limbo until a takeover but my reading is if Roland were to stay he would be under resourced and f*cked. If Roland were to go on current form he would be undervalued and sacked.
So come on Robbo, tell it the way we all know it is, call Roland out proper as a twat, offer him outside, he is less likely to to turn up than @northstandsteve and we will all get behind you saturday against Oldham. We feel your pain...
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Now that is bold from Robinson. That's the closest any manager has got to openly admitting that everyone hates Roland
He may have been the best option under the conditions of our club being a joke with an insane owner that no self respecting manager would touch with a barge pole but we can and will do better then the one formation, "nice" football playing, nonsense spouting salesman we currently have sitting in the dug out.
Robinson may not be the answer to our problems but he is certainly not the cause of them.
RD must be laughing in his dance hall/dug out if he reads today's posts.
Ok KR has made some cringe worthy comments designed to cosy up to the regime. No manager can be expected to succeed under this regime.
The lack of incoming strikers on the last few days of the summer transfer window was disastrous for us, that's highly likely to be RD's policy's - not KR's imo.
He seems genuinely pissed off at the current situation. He seems to have realised he's made a big F*** up.
But the Roland happened and has left everyone quite Very VERY Frustrated.
However this has opened door for the other (more exciting ) party.
WIOTOS
Let's not forget he also publicly came out and defended KM at the start of the season, and said that fans needed to stop protesting. He says what suits him, and now he's changed his tune to keep us fans on his side through the shit run of form, and to possibly sell himself as a 'Charlton man' to any new owners.
music 'career'time playing in bands (shambles) was supporting a band called The Dave in a pub in Clapham, in 1978.They were called The Dave because they were all called Dave.
Before they went on what was laughingly called the stage. they went into a huddle with their arms round each other. Dave, their leader shouted, 'Get out of your suits and into your jeans, and Let's Go!'.
Should have packed it in right there.
Anyway, I've forgotten the point I was trying to make... something about 'fat prick' being a bit rude or something.
But why him ???? Surely if we had been looking at the striking options then Mavididi should not have been the first option. I realise that we may not have been able to get others "over the line" or that a player (Doyle) may now be injured, but why was Mavididi on the list in the first place ?? Probably a swap for Dodoo, but surely all the effort should have been to get in a main striker first & foremost, not dick around with yet another young, non-scoring wide player who can play up-front (KAG does that). If your No 1 target isn't available then you have to look elsewhere. We all know where the problem is & according to Robinson we have been speaking to agents since November - so why was Mavididi the first one through the door ?? Smacks of Novak leaving & panic loans at the last minute.
"But they're already on crutches."
Because of the mess we are in it loses context a little as we just shrug it off as another kick in the bollox.
Being so pissed off after the Southend & Gillingham performances, I was signing up to the Robinson out camp, so far we have seen a lack of ability to adapt tactically, the rushung back of injured players and a lot of talk about pride, passion and wanting to make us happy. This was often then tainted with the 'hands up, head back' routine where his says 'listen, I'll be honest with you, the owner and Katrien, who I know you dont like, have been fantastic..blah blah. It seems like I have heard it a hundred times.
Now is the time for him to move on from it, yes we are in limbo until a takeover but my reading is if Roland were to stay he would be under resourced and f*cked. If Roland were to go on current form he would be undervalued and sacked.
So come on Robbo, tell it the way we all know it is, call Roland out proper as a twat, offer him outside, he is less likely to to turn up than @northstandsteve and we will all get behind you saturday against Oldham. We feel your pain...