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  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,219
    up_the_valley said:
    After being so far ahead. We're going to lose the title to Birmingham aren't we? Is it the top 2 that go up?
    The title isn’t the issue. Promotion is.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,409
    Looks like they are going to throw promotion away.  Newcastle and Palace have an easy run of three games against teams they should beat with ease to end the season.
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,500
    lordromford said:
    up_the_valley said:
    After being so far ahead. We're going to lose the title to Birmingham aren't we? Is it the top 2 that go up?
    The title isn’t the issue. Promotion is.
    TBF that was the second question in my post.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,680
    Thought promotion was sorted far too early...🤦‍♂️
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,933
    The international break killed the momentum we had. Four points needed from two now. Or one for the playoff, but it's hard to see us getting a result against Leicester or whoever if they get relegated if they lose.
  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 302
    Trying there best not to go up attitude 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,680
    panther10 said:
    Trying there best not to go up attitude 
    "their"...😉
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,500
    eastterrace6168 said:
    panther10 said:
    Trying there best not to go up attitude 
    "their"...😉
    Ouch
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,920
    Tbh, I’ve watched the women’s team on stream 3 or 4 times now and, in every case, the opposition look better (even when we’ve scrambled a win).

    Were we in a false position that’s now unraveling itself?
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,358
    Swindon_Addick said:
    The international break killed the momentum we had. Four points needed from two now. Or one for the playoff, but it's hard to see us getting a result against Leicester or whoever if they get relegated if they lose.
    Changing a successful central defender partnership has led to 3 defeats. Mistake to restore a player returning after a long injury lay off.

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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,994
    The way this season is ending, it's gonna be the worst case of shitting the bed, since Amber Heard and Johnny Depp.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,358
    Yet again the Charlton coaches wasted time showing the substitutes tactics or whatever on a tablet.

    Palace scored their second goal whilst this was going on.

    It would be really good in the players practiced passing this week. Palace were much better at going forward.
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,713
    Really hard not to feel despondent after that. Palace deserved the win, and in several respects were comfortably better than us.

    We can never build up any moves through the midfield. One of the defenders will get the ball at the back, play a long ball into the channel for a striker to chase, and hope that something comes off. It nearly did early in the first half from Thestrup's lob, but 99% of the time it won't work. The thing is, we kind of have to do it, because our midfielders aren't on the same level as other midfielders at our promotion rivals. Flannery is great at mopping up but she isn't someone who can dictate the play, and Bradley is just too lightweight - whatever good things she does, she then almost invariably gets knocked off the ball or finds another way to lose it. I'd love to have a player like Blanchard, their number 17, in our team: someone who can get into positions between the lines, hold on to the ball when she gets it and create something. Just look at their third goal, which is the kind of incisive football we're basically incapable of.

    Another example of the issues we have is Mary McAteer. I know I'm being really harsh to single her out, because I thought she had one of her better games for us today (and I'm by no means blaming her for this defeat), but she is so small and physically weak compared to pretty much every other player that it almost makes the moments of skill she produces redundant. Fitzgerald has a similar issue, and when two of our key attacking players are as easy to win the ball off as they are, it means our attacking threat is minimal. Lockwood hasn't made any kind of discernible impact either, seeming to be very much in the same mould as Bradley. Obviously I don't know what happened behind the scenes in the January window, but it would beggar belief if we didn't try to bring in someone who can at least give us more physical presence in midfield and win the duels, especially after the positive impact that Atlanta Primus had when we brought her in last season.

    It is worth remembering that we don't have the same budget as the other teams vying for promotion, and we can't call on the same WSL experience that Palace can, both in the players they had last season and the likes of Hayley Ladd, who they signed in January. It feels like we were punching above our weight to get ourselves into such a strong position, and to be falling away now is tough to watch. We're conceding a lot more, we've completely lost the aura of invincibility we had (we'll lose top spot if Birmingham beat Sunderland on Wednesday), and - as has been the case throughout the season - we don't have it in us to create the chances to make good the goals we concede.

    We can still do it. But we're going to have to dig very, very deep to get something from Southampton and/or Birmingham.
  • Jobbers
    Jobbers Posts: 77
    As I have said for the past 2 years the manager is not good enough. Bottle, bottle bottle. When the pressure gets too much they can’t handle it.

    Another waste of a season. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,530
    Jobbers said:
    As I have said for the past 2 years the manager is not good enough. Bottle, bottle bottle. When the pressure gets too much they can’t handle it.

    Another waste of a season. 
    Your dedication as a near single issue poster is admirable but it’s telling how quiet you are when things are going well. Will you say Karen has done a good job if we do manage promotion despite our evidently smaller budget?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,151
    Jobbers said:
    As I have said for the past 2 years the manager is not good enough. Bottle, bottle bottle. When the pressure gets too much they can’t handle it.

    Another waste of a season. 
    One entire calendar year unbeaten, promotion still in our hands with two games to go despite having a far smaller budget than the teams around us. It's weird, you haven't posted anything here since March 2025, wonder what it was that kept you from contributing your thoughts all that time..
  • Jobbers
    Jobbers Posts: 77
    Surely you can see this season is going exactly the same way the last 2 have? It’s down to the person in charge.

    Why are you so keen to make excuses?

    if the owners cared about the women’s team she would of been sacked a long time ago. Why do us Charlton fans settle for being mediocre? 

    I won’t say Karen is doing a good job because we won’t get promotion. That was the goal at the start of the season, she has let us down yet again. 
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,933
    Crusty54 said:
    Swindon_Addick said:
    The international break killed the momentum we had. Four points needed from two now. Or one for the playoff, but it's hard to see us getting a result against Leicester or whoever if they get relegated if they lose.
    Changing a successful central defender partnership has led to 3 defeats. Mistake to restore a player returning after a long injury lay off.
    Certainly the big difference is we've started to concede when previously the defence was often desperate but very rarely actually beaten. We scored twice today and lost, which is pretty much the opposite of the story of the season.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,530
    Jobbers said:
    Surely you can see this season is going exactly the same way the last 2 have? It’s down to the person in charge.

    Why are you so keen to make excuses?

    if the owners cared about the women’s team she would of been sacked a long time ago. Why do us Charlton fans settle for being mediocre? 

    I won’t say Karen is doing a good job because we won’t get promotion. That was the goal at the start of the season, she has let us down yet again. 
    The season hasn’t ended yet???
  • Jobbers
    Jobbers Posts: 77
    fenaddick said:
    Jobbers said:
    Surely you can see this season is going exactly the same way the last 2 have? It’s down to the person in charge.

    Why are you so keen to make excuses?

    if the owners cared about the women’s team she would of been sacked a long time ago. Why do us Charlton fans settle for being mediocre? 

    I won’t say Karen is doing a good job because we won’t get promotion. That was the goal at the start of the season, she has let us down yet again. 
    The season hasn’t ended yet???
    I think we all know how this story will finish! Do you genuinely believe we can go up?

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,530
    Jobbers said:
    fenaddick said:
    Jobbers said:
    Surely you can see this season is going exactly the same way the last 2 have? It’s down to the person in charge.

    Why are you so keen to make excuses?

    if the owners cared about the women’s team she would of been sacked a long time ago. Why do us Charlton fans settle for being mediocre? 

    I won’t say Karen is doing a good job because we won’t get promotion. That was the goal at the start of the season, she has let us down yet again. 
    The season hasn’t ended yet???
    I think we all know how this story will finish! Do you genuinely believe we can go up?
    Of course I do, it’s in our hands still! 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,708
    Jobbers said:
    fenaddick said:
    Jobbers said:
    Surely you can see this season is going exactly the same way the last 2 have? It’s down to the person in charge.

    Why are you so keen to make excuses?

    if the owners cared about the women’s team she would of been sacked a long time ago. Why do us Charlton fans settle for being mediocre? 

    I won’t say Karen is doing a good job because we won’t get promotion. That was the goal at the start of the season, she has let us down yet again. 
    The season hasn’t ended yet???
    I think we all know how this story will finish! Do you genuinely believe we can go up?
    You're the women's team troll poster clearly, get back in your box
  • Jobbers
    Jobbers Posts: 77
    Posters were questioning my judgment last year and I was right. I want the women’s team to be successful, they have all the tools to do so. 

    Let’s see how things pan out and maybe 1 or 2 of you will change your mind come the end of the season.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,680
    edited March 29

    …😉
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,733
    edited March 29
    Not a great time of the season for it go to pear shaped. 

    2 League games to go to get over the line and a daunting last league game of the season as well
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,088
    Birmingham had a last game of the season decider v LCL last year too. Looking the same way again. We must win at Southampton for so many reasons. I hope we can play with some freedom next weekend v Liverpool. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,947
    edited March 29
    Needs to be some sort of internal inquiry at our recent drop off in form. 

    Ipswich - second bottom, scraped a late draw.
    Oxford - league below, scraped a win via a penalty.
    Portsmouth - rock bottom, lost 2-0.
    Sunderland - won but only had 4 shots.
    Bristol City - lost
    Palace - lost

    One potential positive is that Southampton who we face in our next game, won't have anything to play for. So whatever the current issues are we need to get a win there, to make our lives easier on the last day. If us and Birmingham are both on 44 points and Palace are on 41 heading into the last game then us and Birmingham can play out a nice convenient little draw and all go home happy.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,358
    A big difference for the last 2 games is that we need to win and not try to defend a single goal..

    A change in tactics is needed. Going for goals with strikers on from the start not for the last minutes.

    Playing down the wings isn't working. Katie Lockwood should be in midfield. 


  • AS1987
    AS1987 Posts: 118
    edited March 30
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    If us and Birmingham are both on 44 points and Palace are on 41 heading into the last game then us and Birmingham can play out a nice convenient little draw and all go home happy.
    I genuinely think this is our best hope, but we need to beat Southampton to get into that position first. If that is the case, then Birmingham will be top of the league and we will be the ones giving up on trying to win it, which is absolutely fine in my book as promotion is all that really matters at the end of the day.

    I knew Palace fans were idiots, but they outdid themselves yesterday. We were all placed in the far corner (so the worst seats), but there were multiple Palace fans who wanted to sit in the middle of the Charlton fans when they had they ENTIRE stand to choose from. The stewards did a good job at making those in red and blue sit elsewhere, but a few people who weren't in colours made their way in. One of them was a dad with a girl who must have been about 4-5 years old. The dad couldn't shut up about how much he loved Palace for the majority of the game.

    One of their stadium announcers also referred to them as the 'Oldest football club in the world' at one point. It's only a matter of time until they claim that the Crystal Palace built to host the Great Exhibition was named after them instead of vice versa.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,151
    There's no sense in doing a post mortem while the season is still ongoing but you'd have to be pretty dim to look at the way this season has gone and identify Hills as the problem. I don't think she's perfect by any stretch but it's a genuine miracle that we are where we are at this point, a team of players made up of free transfers from teams that didn't want them anymore after we lost our front two and two talented defenders going unbeaten for a calendar year and topping the league with two games to go despite multiple teams around us investing daft money on internationals with years of WSL experience. The people who have been following the team on this thread have been saying every game that the team surely can't keep getting away with being this bad with the ball and winning and the big surprise really is that it's taken this long for the bubble to burst.

    I had a bad feeling after we binned our opportunity against Portsmouth and I'm not massively surprised that things have gone the way they have, we should have ground out a draw against Palace to take the promotion pressure off ourselves even if it meant the title could slip by but instead we've made things very stressful going into the final two games and probably thrown away the ability to play for a draw against Birmingham on the final day. Ultimately though the only thing that matters is promotion. If we don't achieve it it will hurt but the blame for me will be laid squarely on the owners who surely must have seen a team holding their place at the top of the table but desperately in need of new signings to reinforce the areas where we have been really weak even at our best. That we were missing a good centre forward, a central midfielder and if Hills insists on playing 343 a better right winger couldn't have been clearer but instead we got an attacking player who can't break into the first 11 and a defender who has managed 20 minutes of game time since arriving. For all the ownership claim they are very interested in the women's team they certainly didn't show it in January when we needed them.

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