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Charlton women news - Karen Hills is WSL2 Manager of the Year 2026 (p202)
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Tough to watch, a really attritional game. I thought Karin Muya was the outfield player of the match. I also thought Emily Heaslip refereed the game very well - better than a lot of the male officials the men's team have had this season.
Congratulations girls, now the hard work starts, as they say.2 -
Superb saves in the shootout. Good things happening around the whole club. Hope they have a great season next year too.1
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Brilliant...what a penalty shoot out !1
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Just added to my Men's Season Ticket by purchasing a bargain £45 Ladies Season Ticket. Glory hunter .19
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That is the maximum equity that owners can put in under WSL financial rules - so fair play if true and absolutely what is needed this season.Crusty54 said:
They are said to be getting £4 million from the owners.sam3110 said:
Bottom third budget, playing in the WSL.Jobbers said:
Still here Gaz! Well done to the team for getting over the line today. Our keeper was outstanding in the shoot out.Garrymanilow said:@Jobbers where are you?I still think Karen is not good enough and that hasn’t changed after today.
if we are being honest, both teams were dreadful. We can enjoy the weekend, bits lots of work to do during the summer.
I think I'll trust the judgement of those in charge other yourself tbh5 -
I need a “feck off” button for this!! 🤬☘️😂cantersaddick said:
That hasn't stopped us in the past!Callumcafc said:
She plays for Ireland sircantersaddick said:Take her to the world Cup this summer for shootouts4 -
IncorrectJobbers said:I have been telling you for the last 2 years that the manager is out of her depth. The happy clappers ignored me, even called me a troll.
Well nobody is laughing now are they.A complete meltdown. Shameful.6 -
Great win, will definitely go to a few games next season.2
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If the owners are putting in the maximum equity allowed by the league rules this could be a really really interesting summer. Wonder if the US owners might target a big name US international?3
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I was talking to a regular follower of the women's game at the match yesterday and he was saying Chelsea only get around 6,000 average at home, although home is now moving to Stamford Bridge. I think that there will be mixed crowds but hopefully an overall improvement on our current average but we will get some decent crowds but others that are wanting. I would expect an overall Average of 5 to 7,000, and we will break the current attendance record a few times.cantersaddick said:
Dunno why this is getting lols Arsenal averaged 35k for their matches at the Emirates this season. I have friends who follow them regularly and for the big matches even as regular attenders it was difficult to get tickets. Yes part of the attraction is the Emirates but you'd think with that level of following it would bring in a significant crowd to another London game and new stadium for them, on top of our own contingent increasing a bit plus neturals looking to see some WSL or some of the lionesses a decent contigent of which play for Arsenal.cantersaddick said:I hope the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea next season attract large crowds at the Valley. Potentially 15kish?
I said hope not expect. Its certainly what we should be working towards for those games against the big teams in WSL that are also London based. I'm well aware most games won't attact big crowds at all.0 -
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If a couple of seasons in WSL can be achieved, and playing the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City becomes normalised, that's a such great lift for the club as a whole. Success breeds success, etc.
Huge challenge to stay up, big gulf in quality. Busy summer ahead!
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Chelsea have outgrown Kingsmeadow, so are going to the Bridge full time, can easily see a few 10k plus gates next year, Arsenal will sell like no one’s businessKap10 said:
I was talking to a regular follower of the women's game at the match yesterday and he was saying Chelsea only get around 6,000 average at home, although home is now moving to Stamford Bridge. I think that there will be mixed crowds but hopefully an overall improvement on our current average but we will get some decent crowds but others that are wanting. I would expect an overall Average of 5 to 7,000, and we will break the current attendance record a few times.cantersaddick said:
Dunno why this is getting lols Arsenal averaged 35k for their matches at the Emirates this season. I have friends who follow them regularly and for the big matches even as regular attenders it was difficult to get tickets. Yes part of the attraction is the Emirates but you'd think with that level of following it would bring in a significant crowd to another London game and new stadium for them, on top of our own contingent increasing a bit plus neturals looking to see some WSL or some of the lionesses a decent contigent of which play for Arsenal.cantersaddick said:I hope the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea next season attract large crowds at the Valley. Potentially 15kish?
I said hope not expect. Its certainly what we should be working towards for those games against the big teams in WSL that are also London based. I'm well aware most games won't attact big crowds at all.1 -
The chance to see the likes of Lucy Bronze, Lauren Hemp, Leah Williamson, Alessia Russo at The Valley will put quite a few extra noughts on the gates...Rothko said:
Chelsea have outgrown Kingsmeadow, so are going to the Bridge full time, can easily see a few 10k plus gates next year, Arsenal will sell like no one’s businessKap10 said:
I was talking to a regular follower of the women's game at the match yesterday and he was saying Chelsea only get around 6,000 average at home, although home is now moving to Stamford Bridge. I think that there will be mixed crowds but hopefully an overall improvement on our current average but we will get some decent crowds but others that are wanting. I would expect an overall Average of 5 to 7,000, and we will break the current attendance record a few times.cantersaddick said:
Dunno why this is getting lols Arsenal averaged 35k for their matches at the Emirates this season. I have friends who follow them regularly and for the big matches even as regular attenders it was difficult to get tickets. Yes part of the attraction is the Emirates but you'd think with that level of following it would bring in a significant crowd to another London game and new stadium for them, on top of our own contingent increasing a bit plus neturals looking to see some WSL or some of the lionesses a decent contigent of which play for Arsenal.cantersaddick said:I hope the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea next season attract large crowds at the Valley. Potentially 15kish?
I said hope not expect. Its certainly what we should be working towards for those games against the big teams in WSL that are also London based. I'm well aware most games won't attact big crowds at all.5 -
I’m still smiling 😊
Looking forward to my digital season ticket arriving.
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Just to echo what others have said: if you can, I urge you to get a women's season ticket. £65 is incredible value for a season of WSL football (about the cost of two men's games), even if you can't make every game.
Something has just struck me: watching the Sky Sports highlights, when the commentator says "And Charlton are promoted!", the cadence is uncannily similar to Peter Drury's in 1998:
https://www.skysports.com/football/video/37004/13547322/charlton-0-0-leicester-womens-super-league-play-off-highlights (from 04.10)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSDqJ_GGiZ0 (from 04.36) 5 -
You have till Tuesday to purchase ST at current prices:
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/two-days-phase-one-womens-season-ticket-rises
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Sophie Whitehouse - wow! And Karin Muya caught my eye for her tough tackling . Bril girls. just bril!3
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As one of the first flag wavers for women's football over 25 years ago I don't go to many women's games now other than the odd England game or Arsenal women's match if my son gets me a freebie. The fitness is amazing now and if anyone can't see that a match played in 35 degrees pitch side is a killer and even more after 120+ minutes 🥵
I went to more Charlton women games when Kit Graham and the Albania striker Luz Ejupi were scoring some crackers.
Thanks to Gary Manilow + Co for your knowledge about the present Charlton women team this season as I had watched a couple of matches on Line and it did seem we were all about defense and less possession than the opposition.
I could be negative about the CAFC team and their chances of staying up next season but it was a wonderful achievement by Karen Hills and her staff and it looked like the last women standing after the injuries, and suspension that have hit the Charlton squad at the end of a tough season.
As my son who was taking pictures at the match yesterday text to say it was 0-0 after 90, I just watched the ET and penalties when I got home from the great outdoors.
Whitehouse received a Yellow card for shithousery and then picked up her bottle again to look at it again!
What a star Sophie is and we need some excellent recruitment and it won't be million pound players like Arsenal and Chelsea pulled off this season.
Great achievement for the women's team to reach WSL1 and an achievement by the men's team to have a 2nd season in the Championship.
Both teams need more investment than they got last season but it's needs to be spent wisely; easier said than done.
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Leicester’s penalties weren’t bad, but Sophie is one hell if a ‘keeper.Garrymanilow said:If like me you want to rewatch the penalty shootout and the aftermath. It's interesting, I noticed a lot more about the shootout this time round, mostly because I wasn't watching from behind my fingers this time4 -
He thought FAI stood for Find Another Irishman.SoundAsa£ said:I remember when Jack Charlton was managing Ireland, you could qualify to play for them if you owned an Irish Setter.🤭4 -
It’s a bit higher than that.fenaddick said:No idea how true it is but I saw someone say the chance of saving 4/5 pens is 0.02%
Assuming 20% of penalties are saved, then the chance of 4 or more pens being saved out of 5 in a shootout is just a binomial calculation.
5p^4 - 4p^5 (with p = 0.2) = 0.67% not 0.02%.Still very impressive as it is.1 -
Copy and paste from AI:Callumcafc said:
It’s a bit higher than that.fenaddick said:No idea how true it is but I saw someone say the chance of saving 4/5 pens is 0.02%
Assuming 20% of penalties are saved, then the chance of 4 or more pens being saved out of 5 in a shootout is just a binomial calculation.
5p^4 - 4p^5 (with p = 0.2) = 0.67% not 0.02%.Still very impressive as it is.
The mathematical odds of a goalkeeper saving exactly 4 out of 5 football penalties in a standard shootout are approximately 0.0039 (0.39% or a 1-in-256 chance). This probability is calculated using the binomial distribution formula based on the historical professional penalty save rate of roughly 14.3%. [1, 2]## 1. Identify the baseline probabilityIn professional football shootouts, around 74.6% of penalties are scored, 11.1% miss the target completely, and 14.3% are actively saved by the goalkeeper. Therefore, the independent probability ($p$) of a save on any single given penalty is:$$p = 0.143$$## 2. Set up the binomial formulaTo find the probability of securing exactly $k$ successes across $n$ independent trials, we implement the binomial probability formula:$$P(X = k) = \binom{n}{k} \cdot p^k \cdot (1-p)^{n-k}$$For this scenario:* Total penalties ($n$) = $5$* Target saves ($k$) = $4$* Probability of a save ($p$) = $0.143$* Probability of a non-save ($1-p$) = $0.857$## 3. Compute the exact oddsFirst, we find the number of unique combinations or orders in which 4 out of 5 penalties can be saved:$$\binom{5}{4} = 5$$Next, we calculate the joint probability of getting 4 saves and 1 non-save:$$P(X = 4) = 5 \cdot (0.143)^4 \cdot (0.857)^1$$ $$P(X = 4) = 5 \cdot 0.000418 \cdot 0.857$$ $$P(X = 4) \approx 0.00179$$If we broaden the scope to include penalties that were missed off-target (treating any non-scored penalty as a "stop" for the keeper using a broader ~25% failure rate):$$P(X = 4) = 5 \cdot (0.25)^4 \cdot (0.75)^1 = 5 \cdot 0.003906 \cdot 0.75 \approx 0.0146 \text{ (1.46\% or 1-in-68 chance)}$$## 4. Historic contextBecause these odds are so low, saving 4 out of 5 penalties in a single professional match is an incredibly rare feat. A notable historic exception occurred when South Africa's [Ronwen Williams saved 4 out of 5 penalties](https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1aiog7f/ronwan_williams_makes_history_by_saving_45/) against Cape Verde during the 2024 Africa Cup of Nations shootout. [1, 3]## ✅ Exact Probability ResultUsing strict historical data where only physical goalkeeper saves are counted, the probability of a goalkeeper saving exactly 4 out of 5 penalties is 0.18%, which expands to 1.46% if calculating the odds of the opposition failing to score 4 out of 5 times by any means. [2]If you are calculating this for a specific scenario, let me know:* Is this for an in-game penalty or a post-match shootout?* Do you want to count off-target misses as saves, or only literal goalkeeper deflections?* Are you analyzing a specific goalkeeper's historical tracking stats? [2, 4]0 -
Yup, the total odds of 4/5 change depending on where you peg the odds of an individual pen being saved.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Copy and paste from AI:Callumcafc said:
It’s a bit higher than that.fenaddick said:No idea how true it is but I saw someone say the chance of saving 4/5 pens is 0.02%
Assuming 20% of penalties are saved, then the chance of 4 or more pens being saved out of 5 in a shootout is just a binomial calculation.
5p^4 - 4p^5 (with p = 0.2) = 0.67% not 0.02%.Still very impressive as it is.
The mathematical odds of a goalkeeper saving exactly 4 out of 5 football penalties in a standard shootout are approximately 0.0039 (0.39% or a 1-in-256 chance). This probability is calculated using the binomial distribution formula based on the historical professional penalty save rate of roughly 14.3%. [1, 2]I chose to go with 20% as a nice round number (and women’s football seeming to have fewer scored penalties in general) which came back with 0.67% and AI chose 14.3% which gave you 0.39%.0 -
By the way, £65 is amazing value for a full season of elite sport. 14 teams in the league means 13 home games, only a fiver per match.
I would be taking advantage of that if I lived near enough to get down there every week.4 -
Jeez man, how can us ordinary mortals rest easy when the best brains on CL come up with three completely different answers?
0.02, 0.67 or 0.39? Even with the use of the binomial distribution formula, brackets and dollar signs it's a mess.
This man could work out the R number ahead of his time, bet he could do it!
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What these calculations are leaving out of the equation is the possibility that a team might notice that the opposition keeper is referring to notes on a water bottle but not then tell their players to send their penalties the other way to where they usually put them, even if that means hitting them less hard.
Obviously, it's still an amazing achievement to save 4 out of 5 even if you guess the right way every time.1 -
I meant to post this prior to the shootout.
Charlton/ play-off / penalties. Surely it's a shoe-in!
Well done to the women representing our club.0
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