Not sure how you can include the likes of Bartram if you never saw him play? Maybe he was rubbish and the stories of his greatness are highly exaggerated.
Mosley Mills Scotty Kingsley Norman Smith George Tadman Don Welsh Sam Bartram Chris Duffy Gordon Hurst Eddie Firmani Hans Jeppson
Absolutely disgraceful that you've left out our greatest ever player STUART LEARY. WTF!!!
Who would you drop for him?
It was a selection from the first 50 years of the club.
Hewie would get in before Leary imho
John himself would often refer to Stuart as “the governor!”
In Colin Cameron’s book The Valiant 500 Colin described Stuart as the best he ever saw. Plus he was the most voted for player in the books favourite player listing! All good enough for me, plus what I saw with my own eyes.
So I'll go with the "best" XI. Caveats - my lifetime that I've seen, based on how they played for Charlton. (So no John Barnes or Di Canio, for instance)
Have to agree with most of the selections but one seems to have been left out ( I know he was only here for a short period), but the finest footballer I saw in a Charlton shirt was Alan Simonsen.
Kiely Costa Gomez Elliott Powell Lee Parker Jensen Di Canio Simonsen P Walsh
My fav players like Hales and Flanagan would not cut it I’m afraid. Older players would never have been fit enough in modern day football. I watched a 1985 Liverpool v Man U game the other day. Some legends of the game who would never have been up to modern day football.
Kiely Costa Gomez Elliott Powell Lee Parker Jensen Di Canio Simonsen P Walsh
My fav players like Hales and Flanagan would not cut it I’m afraid. Older players would never have been fit enough in modern day football. I watched a 1985 Liverpool v Man U game the other day. Some legends of the game who would never have been up to modern day football.
Hard to say, the ball is a lot softer now and Football is a F/T role for the majority of players with zero distractions - There is a lot more emphasis on fitness work which would put them on a par in that respect with the modern player?
Kiely Rufus Powell Parker Kinsella Jensen Jackson Bent Kermorgant Mendonca
Subs Romedahl Fortune Salmon Kim Grant. ( I know he was shit but always tried along with leaburn ) Andy Hunt. Garland Balmer Fish Wagstaff Costa Young That still a quality team.
Kiely Costa Gomez Elliott Powell Lee Parker Jensen Di Canio Simonsen P Walsh
My fav players like Hales and Flanagan would not cut it I’m afraid. Older players would never have been fit enough in modern day football. I watched a 1985 Liverpool v Man U game the other day. Some legends of the game who would never have been up to modern day football.
I really don't think that's relevant. It's just your favourite players from any era. The current side would probably thrash the FA Cup winning side from 1947 because the game has progressed and fitness levels have increased, but they were a great team at that time and deserve recognition. They're comparatively way better than the current side in terms of their relative status.
Kiely Costa Gomez Elliott Powell Lee Parker Jensen Di Canio Simonsen P Walsh
My fav players like Hales and Flanagan would not cut it I’m afraid. Older players would never have been fit enough in modern day football. I watched a 1985 Liverpool v Man U game the other day. Some legends of the game who would never have been up to modern day football.
I really don't think that's relevant. It's just your favourite players from any era. The current side would probably thrash the FA Cup winning side from 1947 because the game has progressed and fitness levels have increased, but they were a great team at that time and deserve recognition. They're comparatively way better than the current side in terms of their relative status.
How would the current side do with the tackles of that era? The challenges on the keeper?
Kiely Costa Gomez Elliott Powell Lee Parker Jensen Di Canio Simonsen P Walsh
My fav players like Hales and Flanagan would not cut it I’m afraid. Older players would never have been fit enough in modern day football. I watched a 1985 Liverpool v Man U game the other day. Some legends of the game who would never have been up to modern day football.
I really don't think that's relevant. It's just your favourite players from any era. The current side would probably thrash the FA Cup winning side from 1947 because the game has progressed and fitness levels have increased, but they were a great team at that time and deserve recognition. They're comparatively way better than the current side in terms of their relative status.
How would the current side do with the tackles of that era? The challenges on the keeper?
Good players are good players in any era.
Well JS thought the Spurs team of the 50's would hammer the 1921 cup side because of changing fitness levels. If you transferred JS of the 20's to the Spurs team now he'd struggle. But perhaps the muddy pitches and robust challenges of that era would be a great leveller, you're right.
Not sure how you can include the likes of Bartram if you never saw him play? Maybe he was rubbish and the stories of his greatness are highly exaggerated.
I never saw the Magnificent Magyars play but they beat England 6-3 and 7-1 and stuffed W Germany 8-3 at the '54 World Cup so I'm happy to accept the stories of their prowess. Similarly for Bartram. It's either that or believe in a UK-wide conspiracy amongst all the newspapers, authors of football books, etc. done just to wind up us Charlton supporters.
Have to agree with most of the selections but one seems to have been left out ( I know he was only here for a short period), but the finest footballer I saw in a Charlton shirt was Alan Simonsen.
I certainly didn't leave him out and I think there's one before me who didn't either.
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C Duffy
D Welsh
S Leary
H Jeppson
C Jensen
J Robinson
S Parker
E Firmani
C Powell
D Hales
Bonds
Humphrey
Leary
Tees
Glover
Parker
Hales
Curtis
P Walsh
WTF!!!
Keith Peacock
John Hewie
Norman Smith
Steve Gritt
Brian Kinsey
Stuart Leary
Billy Kiernan
Les Berry
Mike Flanagan
It was a selection from the first 50 years of the club.
Hewie would get in before Leary imho
Mark Kinsella
Richard Rufus
Chris Powell
Darren Bent
Shaun Newton
Scott Parker
Claus Jensen
Clive Mendonca
John Robinson
Yann Kermorgant
John Humphrey
Marvin Hinton
Richard Rufus
SCP
Scott Parker
Clauss Jenson
Mark Kinsella
Colin Walsh
Stuart Leary
Clive Mendonca
Friar
Doherty
Hazell
Ferns
Churchouse
Bullivant
Reeves (Ben not the great Peter)
Endean
Abbott
Wilson (Richard)
In Colin Cameron’s book The Valiant 500 Colin described Stuart as the best he ever saw.
Plus he was the most voted for player in the books favourite player listing!
All good enough for me, plus what I saw with my own eyes.
GK: Kiely
RB: Gomez
CB: Costa
CB: Rufus
LB: Powell
CDM: Parker
CM: Smertin
CM: Jensen
RW: Gudmundsson
LW: Lookman
ST: Bent
Despite JBG/Lookman/Gomez playing at a lower level, they looked absolute class and are proving it at their current clubs. As for a favourite XI:
GK: Kiely
RB: Solly
CB: Costa
CB: Rufus
LB: Powell
CDM: Kishishev
CM: Kinsella
CM: Jensen
CAM: Di Canio
ST: Mendonca
ST: Kermorgant
Chris Duffy
Derek Hales
Clive Mendonca
Keith Peacock
Chris Powell
Colin Powell
Richard Rufus
Graham Tutt
Don Welsh
Paul Mortimer
Chris Powell
Graham Stuart
Dean Kiely
Scott Parker
Claus Jensen
John Robinson
Di Canio
Radostin Kishishev
Powell
Rufus
Minto
Robinson
Parker
Jackson
Yann
Solly
Mendonca
Costa
Gomez
Elliott
Powell
Lee
Parker
Jensen
Di Canio
Simonsen
P Walsh
My fav players like Hales and Flanagan would not cut it I’m afraid. Older players would never have been fit enough in modern day football. I watched a 1985 Liverpool v Man U game the other day. Some legends of the game who would never have been up to modern day football.
Rufus
Powell
Parker
Kinsella
Jensen
Jackson
Bent
Kermorgant
Mendonca
Subs
Romedahl
Fortune
Salmon
Kim Grant. ( I know he was shit but always tried along with leaburn )
Andy Hunt.
Garland
Balmer
Fish
Wagstaff
Costa
Young
That still a quality team.
Good players are good players in any era.
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Francis
Weaver
Fox
Cranie
M.Bent
Mustoe
Scott Sinclair
Church
Humphrey
Reid
Bailey (Mike)
Rufus
Shirtliff
Peacock
Hales
Mendonca
Parker
Glover