Litter - can anything be done?
There is a sizeable minority of people who just don't seem to give a shit about their environment.
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What type of firearm?Leuth said:Arm pedestrians
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Outside my shop up Grove Park BR, there were blue bins on every corner of the t-junction and 2 as you walk out of the station, but people still stood in my doorway, unwrapping their cigs and chuckin the foil and cellophane on the floor. Some didn't even wait til they got to the door and dropped it on the shop floor or the sweet display by the till. I'd always be clearing smoking wrappers off the display and even fag wrappers turn my stomach.0
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Makes me really angry. Don't suppose you've got a dashcam?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Driving along this morning the guy in front of me driving a flash BMW opens his door while stopped at the lights and dumps plastic bottles and cigarette packets onto the road. I don't really get what can be done to stop all the morons in London littering the city?
There is a sizeable minority of people who just don't seem to give a shit about their environment.0 -
Similar thing happened to me recently, young woman through cigarette packet out the window. Really tempted to get out and throw it back in but the traffic started moving so opportunity lost. Just as well, probably would've got done for assault or some other such nonsense.0
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I also see it at the station car park. People just park and shove all their rubbish out the door.
And don't get me started on fly tipping. Often the lane up the road is blocked with stuff.0 -
What would it achieve? As a society we seem to have a large minority of selfish slobs...Arsenetatters said:
Makes me really angry. Don't suppose you've got a dashcam?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Driving along this morning the guy in front of me driving a flash BMW opens his door while stopped at the lights and dumps plastic bottles and cigarette packets onto the road. I don't really get what can be done to stop all the morons in London littering the city?
There is a sizeable minority of people who just don't seem to give a shit about their environment.5 -
Large fines.0
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Would need to be enforced - won't happen.Todds_right_hook said:Large fines.
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Blow their fucking heads off with an assault rifle..........oops...sorry I thought I was Stateside.
As I am in the UK, empathise with them because they had a shit upbringing and offer them counselling and a hug.18 - Sponsored links:
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With a litter awareness course thrown in...Greenie said:Blow their fucking heads off with an assault rifle..........oops...sorry I thought I was Stateside.
As I am in the UK, empathise with them because they had a shit upbringing and offer them counselling and a hug.2 -
was watching a Wanted Down Under the other day and when a little girl of about eight was asked why she voted to move to New Zealand she said 'because people put their litter in the bin'.
I just don't get why people can't either put it in a bin or take it home with them. Surely it's not that difficult? However, and this isn't being racist, I do wonder how much the increase in litter is due to the influx of residents from other countries. It's like queuing at bus stops, us Brits used to be really good at it but now it's just a mad scrum when the bus arrives.7 -
My sister in-law told me at xmas that a few weeks earlier she was smoking outside her office in Tooley Street with a colleague and when they finished the colleague threw her cigarette butt onto the pavement. Her colleague was immediately approached by a street warden and issued with a £60 fine.18
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I'm convinced that smokers are the worst for littering. They start with their fag butts, just casually stubbing them out with gay abandon. Nobody ever challenges them, so they soon upgrade to celephane wrappers. If you're going to throw a wrapper away, of course there's no problem with a box. They're biodegradable anyway, so no harm done. Once you're comfortable with throwing fag packets away, the path is clear (so to speak) to chuck anything that you'd rather be on the ground than in your hand: Beer cans, betting slips, scratch cards, fish and chip papers, magazines, plastic bottles, and any old shoe that you've outgrown (always individually though, never a pair). Next thing you know they're onto the hard stuff, mattresses, old fridges, nuclear waste. Doesn't matter what it is, your hardened smoker won't think twice about littering the place with it.
Think twice before taking up the evil weed kids, it can be a slippery slope to becoming pathetic individuals with no sense of personal or civic pride.17 -
It appears to me that the problem is getting worse and I assume, due to a lack of funds, that local authorities are not doing anything to tackle the problem.
I drive all over East Kent and I feel ashamed when I see the amount of litter/rubbish on the roadside and blown into the fences and over the fields. It is also far worse in places where HGVs pull over. The drivers just appear to dump their rubbish without a care for their surroundings. Why there aren't bins in these lay-bys is beyond me.
You do not see the same level of litter in France, as each commune appear to feel a sense of pride in how their town/area looks. Why don't we have that in the UK?6 -
It does happen, but the authorities need evidence. If you're prepared to provide a statement saying what you saw it would be progressed by my own local authority. I know this as I've done it myself. If you have the number at least report it as if they don't act on this occasion it's at least reported for the next time.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Would need to be enforced - won't happen.Todds_right_hook said:Large fines.
A lot of councils are contracting out the enforcement of minor littering offences to concentrate on more major fly tips and other types of environmental crime. But this brings with it the allegation that they are then overzealous
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Full cans of alcoholhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
What type of firearm?Leuth said:Arm pedestrians
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Being community spirited I provided a front hedge for the locals to deposit their empty bottles and used fast food packaging. I've even found a nappy in there ... it's so rewarding to be of service.7
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Littering really boils my piss, just no excuse for being a thoughtless, anti-social piece of shit. I got the train to Donny on Saturday and the state of the line was shocking, so much crap just thrown over back fences onto the embankments. There was a full rusty swing set that instead of being dismantled and disposed of down at the local tip it was just dumped over the fence intact amongst the bags of who knows what. I can’t comprehend the mentality of those who see nothing wrong with messing up their own environment.1
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Goes with the BMW driver character, I bet he was turning either left or right, although he mastered the door catch and a bit of antisocial housekeeping the indicator stalk is still a mystery item.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Driving along this morning the guy in front of me driving a flash BMW opens his door while stopped at the lights and dumps plastic bottles and cigarette packets onto the road. I don't really get what can be done to stop all the morons in London littering the city?
There is a sizeable minority of people who just don't seem to give a shit about their environment.3 - Sponsored links:
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He's also trying to compensate for the inferiority complex he has over the minuscule size of his manhood! Go to his house and you'll find a Rottweiler. It bolsters his inherently low self-esteem.charltonkeston said:
Goes with the BMW driver character, I bet he was turning either left or right, although he mastered the door catch and a bit of antisocial housekeeping the indicator stalk is still a mystery item.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Driving along this morning the guy in front of me driving a flash BMW opens his door while stopped at the lights and dumps plastic bottles and cigarette packets onto the road. I don't really get what can be done to stop all the morons in London littering the city?
There is a sizeable minority of people who just don't seem to give a shit about their environment.2 -
Brexit = sortedLargeAddick said:was watching a Wanted Down Under the other day and when a little girl of about eight was asked why she voted to move to New Zealand she said 'because people put their litter in the bin'.
I just don't get why people can't either put it in a bin or take it home with them. Surely it's not that difficult? However, and this isn't being racist, I do wonder how much the increase in litter is due to the influx of residents from other countries. It's like queuing at bus stops, us Brits used to be really good at it but now it's just a mad scrum when the bus arrives.
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I was sitting in the car in Paddington and a bloke walking past dropped a coke can on the pavement about 20 yards from a bin.
I got out and picked it up and followed him up the road and handed it back to him.
He didn’t say anything, but dropped it again about a minute later.
I won’t be doing that again.
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Did you get your car back then from the police?JamesSeed said:I was sitting in the car in Paddington and a bloke walking past dropped a coke can on the pavement about 20 yards from a bin.
I got out and picked it up and followed him up the road and handed it back to him.
He didn’t say anything, but dropped it again about a minute later.
I won’t be doing that again.0 -
When I started getting the bus to school 30 years ago it was always an absolute scrum at the bus stop, so that can't be blamed on any supposed influx.
Equally, throughout my entire life every path, gutter, car park, play park, beach, basically any public space has a a liberal coating of dog ends and chewing gum.
Any recent increase in litter I don't think is down to an increase in littering, but a decrease in government spending, bins aren't emptied as often, streets aren't swept as often, rubbish builds up and blows around. Blame austerity, not immigration.6 -
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my Dad did something similar in Bexleyheath but picked it up and dropped it back through their open sunroof !!JamesSeed said:I was sitting in the car in Paddington and a bloke walking past dropped a coke can on the pavement about 20 yards from a bin.
I got out and picked it up and followed him up the road and handed it back to him.
He didn’t say anything, but dropped it again about a minute later.
I won’t be doing that again.
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randy andy said:
When I started getting the bus to school 30 years ago it was always an absolute scrum at the bus stop, so that can't be blamed on any supposed influx.
Equally, throughout my entire life every path, gutter, car park, play park, beach, basically any public space has a a liberal coating of dog ends and chewing gum.
Any recent increase in litter I don't think is down to an increase in littering, but a decrease in government spending, bins aren't emptied as often, streets aren't swept as often, rubbish builds up and blows around. Blame austerity, not immigration.
Austerity cuts have definitely played a part in my town. We used to have two council tips and recycling centres, one on either side of town but five years ago one was shut as apparently it wasn’t ‘cost effective’. Funnily enough in those five years the amount of fly tipping has gone up massively.
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All the time ignorant bastards leave their litter for someone else to clear up,you wont ever stop it.But,when someone is caught ,give them a £500 fine ,they wont do it again.2
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Littering is a matter of personal responsibility. The government doesn't make people drop their crap all over the street, they just pay to clear up after the dirty mingers. Manners cost nothing, cleaning up after dirty gits costs a fortune.6
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