Charlton players in racism storm (video in The Sun).....
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I'm assuming they were all Charlton players at the time. I'm unclear how this will do the club any favours?kentaddick said:
Which current charlton player said something racist??hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
The issue is a group of Charlton players have filmed themselves saying racist stuff and it's now available for the world to view. This is not going to reflect well on the club and they need to acknowledge this.Covered End said:No one knows the background/context, so everyone is pre judging without knowing the facts.
If Kennedy/Magennis were ok with it and saw it as usual banter, then whoever let it get in the press is stupid/action needs to be taken and that's about it.
If Kennedy/Magennis or any players were being bullied, then that's more serious and should be investigated and dealt with.
It's irrelevant whether it is banter or not - it's bad PR for them and the club. It's naive of them to have done this and I hope they learn from it.
The Community Trust will lose any credibility if our players behave like this and that can't be tolerated.2 -
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
You couldn't make it up.2 -
You all ok huns?
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The line that bothers me slightly is that it led to resentment, which shows that it might've not been as well received as people are thinking.
If Josh and Kennedy are fine with it and the rest of the squad are fine, no big deal.0 -
The one I got this afternoon was pretty tame for you.ricky_otto said:I hope @DaveMehmet doesn’t leak any text messages containing the names I call him.
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And you never disappoint with the complete and always predictable bollocks you always feel the need to post.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
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We didn’t have a game for between 2/1 and 14/1. Players would definitely have been allowed to go out and have a booze during this time.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
You couldn't make it up.0 -
Top contribution to the threadRed_in_SE8 said:
And you never disappoint with the complete and always predictable bollocks you always feel the need to post.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
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We played the spanners on the 14/1, the one game we needed them up for it.ValleyGary said:
We didn’t have a game for between 2/1 and 14/1. Players would definitely have been allowed to go out and have a booze during this time.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
You couldn't make it up.1 -
It's not like they have stolen a taxi.4
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Even if they were, and we dont know one way or the other, it still reflects very badly on the Club.SELR_addicks said:The line that bothers me slightly is that it led to resentment, which shows that it might've not been as well received as people are thinking.
If Josh and Kennedy are fine with it and the rest of the squad are fine, no big deal.0 -
How many games a season do we need to win, for you to be less judgemental of such behaviour ?Red_in_SE8 said:
And you never disappoint with the complete and always predictable bollocks you always feel the need to post.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
You couldn't make it up.
If we're challenging for the play off's is it okish, but if we're fighting relegation the behaviour is not ok ?2 -
How do you know they haven't?AddickFC81 said:It's not like they have stolen a taxi.
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Yes,it does because it is out there but as people say - banter does occur and if nobody is hurt or offended by it, it has to be less serious even if unpleasant. The implication is that there was an issue with it, and if true it is a bit of a sorry affair that is difficult to brush under the carpet. The number of posts on this thread suggests it is quite a serious matter.0
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They weren’t drinking for 12 daysguinnessaddick said:
We played the spanners on the 14/1, the one game we needed them up for it.ValleyGary said:
We didn’t have a game for between 2/1 and 14/1. Players would definitely have been allowed to go out and have a booze during this time.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
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Most of the old boys that seem to have a real problem with this grew up in an era of football where some players turned up to the games pissed. But then it was alright back then. I can imagine some of the terminology weren’t far of that used last year either. The good old days.0
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Does everything that everyone does reflect badly on their employers?
If they were on a club trip somewhere and stole a cab (lol), or played up at the airport on the way back from an away game, fair enough, but this is a personal bit of banter that has been leaked ** Edit- and as far as I know, no one in the pub at the time made a complaint did they?**
Imo, it ain't got anything to do with the club and I don't think that 99.9% of the public in that boozer, or looking at the video online would even have a clue who them blokes were, unless if they weren't told but even then, I reckon a good 50% would say, who f**** Charlton?1 -
It must be a generation thing then. In my youth mates mums got a bit of respect.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
No idea how old you are or if it's just the mates i hang around with, but i'm pretty sure there's not a single one of our group who's not had one of their mum's abused (in piss taking terms) by the rest of the group. It's just standard banter growing up. No one ever took it too personally.soapboxsam said:As someone who hates the Sun newspaper I don't think that is the issue. I think it reflects badly on the comedy club Charlton Athletic and present and ex players in that video. And people wonder why gay players don't come out when 20th century banter lives and breaths. Is there any man on this thread who thinks calling a team mates mum a slag is acceptable ?
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I would have thought that for any professional sportsman to get so drunk is not a good idea as it can affect their performance (no double entendre intended).
I thought that professional athletes were supposed to be very careful with what they put into their bodies.
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Was a fair assessment though I thought.DaveMehmet said:
The one I got this afternoon was pretty tame for you.ricky_otto said:I hope @DaveMehmet doesn’t leak any text messages containing the names I call him.
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True if this this ain't a club event organised by the company (the club) and organised by employees outside ours who are friends within the club going off their own bat then the cluc has not anything to answer for. If employees of McDonalds went on a night out organised by the employees and they are not wearing company uniform would McDonalds have anything to answer for? Of Course not.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Does everything that everyone does reflect badly on their employers?
If they were on a club trip somewhere and stole a cab (lol), or played up at the airport on the way back from an away game, fair enough, but this is a personal bit of banter that has been leaked.
Imo, it ain't got anything to do with the club and I don't that 99.9% of the public in that boozer, or looking at the video online would even have a clue who them blokes, unless if they weren't told but even then, I reckon a good 50% would say, who f**** Charlton?0 -
Ha, could you imagine the thread if one of the players got their shot gun out like old Killer did (allegedly).ValleyGary said:Most of the old boys that seem to have a real problem with this grew up in an era of football where some players turned up to the games pissed. But then it was alright back then. I can imagine some of the terminology weren’t far of that used last year either. The good old days.
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All of the outbursts are reprehensible, some are despicable.
Equally loathsome is the snivelling wretch who leaked this to the s"n. If you were insulted by the episode, be a grown up and take it to the appropriate authority. Grizzling to the tabloids is wretched hypocrisy. Expect to be exposed and pilloried as a result.
For the record being pissed does not lessen the offence one iota.
Only racist pricks spout racist filth, pissed or sober. Only misogynist pricks spout misogynistic filth, pissed or sober. No tolerance, no excuses. You are accountable for what you say or do, same as you are responsible for your state of intoxication. Get as pissed as you like, as often as you like but if you behave badly that's still you, you're bad, not the drink.
The measure of those here exposed will be in what they now say and do. Those who have left the club can stew in their own juices, they are in Charlton's past. Those who remain should expect a massive bollocking at the very least. At a club with any functioning management structure at all they'd be fortunate to keep their jobs.6 -
homophobeME14addick said:I would have thought that for any professional sportsman to get so drunk is not a good idea as it can affect their performance (no double entendre intended).
I thought that professional athletes were supposed to be very careful with what they put into their bodies.3 -
Really?ME14addick said:I would have thought that for any professional sportsman to get so drunk is not a good idea as it can affect their performance (no double entendre intended).
I thought that professional athletes were supposed to be very careful with what they put into their bodies.0 -
In your day casual racism and homophobia was acceptable, so I’d say we’ve made a net gain from your day.Baldybonce said:
It must be a generation thing then. In my youth mates mums got a bit of respect.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
No idea how old you are or if it's just the mates i hang around with, but i'm pretty sure there's not a single one of our group who's not had one of their mum's abused (in piss taking terms) by the rest of the group. It's just standard banter growing up. No one ever took it too personally.soapboxsam said:As someone who hates the Sun newspaper I don't think that is the issue. I think it reflects badly on the comedy club Charlton Athletic and present and ex players in that video. And people wonder why gay players don't come out when 20th century banter lives and breaths. Is there any man on this thread who thinks calling a team mates mum a slag is acceptable ?
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If that was the case and it was more than 7 days before the next game then it negates my anger on the professionalism aspect of the incident.ValleyGary said:
We didn’t have a game for between 2/1 and 14/1. Players would definitely have been allowed to go out and have a booze during this time.Covered End said:
Well you have just seen that they quite clearly do. I regret to say that you really do talk nonsense, but you're happier with such behaviour if they are winning games, but not so happy if they are not winning.Red_in_SE8 said:Professional footballers/athletes do not get absolutely shitfaced like that on a Saturday night or any night during the season.
You couldn't make it up.0 -
Glad I don't have any 'mates' like that, although in reality they're more work colleagues.
What a bunch of ignorant pricks, Charlton or not.0
