Leaving JD aside, what's wrong with people saying what they want, as long as it doesn't incite violence against another like, for example, an acid attack on someone because you don't agree with their politics
He was very popular in the 70s and my parents enjoyed him. I thought some of his stuff was funny but even as a teenager I was uncomfortable with his racist stuff. To put it into context though, there were 3 TV channels and they included things like "Love Thy Neighbour" (a sitcom that was basically a very long "joke" about racial differences), Mind Your Language (a sitcom whose entire point was racial stereotypes) and the Black and White Minstrels Show (yes really - musicians and dancers blacking up on prime time TV).
I get that he is good at what he does, it fills a niche, I haven't seen him in years and strongly suspect I'd not like it. Whatever else you say about him, he is definitely a Charlton fan though.
He was very popular in the 70s and my parents enjoyed him. I thought some of his stuff was funny but even as a teenager I was uncomfortable with his racist stuff. To put it into context though, there were 3 TV channels and they included things like "Love Thy Neighbour" (a sitcom that was basically a very long "joke" about racial differences), Mind Your Language (a sitcom whose entire point was racial stereotypes) and the Black and White Minstrels Show (yes really - musicians and dancers blacking up on prime time TV).
I get that he is good at what he does, it fills a niche, I haven't seen him in years and strongly suspect I'd not like it. Whatever else you say about him, he is definitely a Charlton fan though.
Leaving JD aside, what's wrong with people saying what they want, as long as it doesn't incite violence against another like, for example, an acid attack on someone because you don't agree with their politics
Or "pick up a rifle and head for the front lines"...
If I wasn’t already a happily married doris, I’d ask @SoundAsa£ out for a light ale or three.
Thing is. There are people out there who steal from food banks (as in they can afford to eat just choose to take free food as it’s there). And he made a joke of it. You either find it funny or you don’t. Can’t see the point of wasting energy getting offended by it.
Still, as Mr Davidson has blocked me on Twitter, I couldn’t care less.
This forum does seem to have a very high propensity of extreme left wing snowflakes, who's views are 100% correct, and enlighting for us older members, who by being born in the fifties and sixties are deemed racist bigoted, right wing, Thatcher loving Nazi scum.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
This forum does seem to have a very high propensity of extreme left wing snowflakes, who's views are 100% correct, and enlighting for us older members, who by being born in the fifties and sixties are deemed racist bigoted, right wing, Thatcher loving Nazi scum.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
Plenty of rightwing snowflakes that dont stop pissing and moaning too !
This forum does seem to have a very high propensity of extreme left wing snowflakes, who's views are 100% correct, and enlighting for us older members, who by being born in the fifties and sixties are deemed racist bigoted, right wing, Thatcher loving Nazi scum.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
Crikey. Am going to have bring more money for this round. Fair play Ralph, fair play.
Classic? I liked him in the snooker program and generation game, but maybe I've had my sense of humour ruined by the left. Maybe.
I was being ironic - just illustrates how dreadful his comedy was.
But back in the day that wasn’t the case......it was full on main stream, with BBC and media acceptance. Something you and many others fail to realise or accept.
I was around at the time and found him unfunny and offensive then - the Chalky character shows how crap he was. It may have been mainstream but it was dteadful.
But obviously not a view not shared by millions of fans at the time.
Fortunately times have changed and racist, homophobic comedy is not so popular.
Sadly they’ve been replaced in the mainstream by racist homophobic politicians.
This forum does seem to have a very high propensity of extreme left wing snowflakes, who's views are 100% correct, and enlighting for us older members, who by being born in the fifties and sixties are deemed racist bigoted, right wing, Thatcher loving Nazi scum.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
Plenty of rightwing snowflakes that dont stop pissing and moaning too !
This forum does seem to have a very high propensity of extreme left wing snowflakes, who's views are 100% correct, and enlighting for us older members, who by being born in the fifties and sixties are deemed racist bigoted, right wing, Thatcher loving Nazi scum.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
“Extreme left” - are you sure? I’m not sure I can think of any posters on this site who fit that bill.
This forum does seem to have a very high propensity of extreme left wing snowflakes, who's views are 100% correct, and enlighting for us older members, who by being born in the fifties and sixties are deemed racist bigoted, right wing, Thatcher loving Nazi scum.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
I was born in the 50s - does that mean I have to be a right wing, racist bigot?
Right-leaning snowflakes labelling left-leaners as snowflakes. A lazy term that's used to put down either side. How about a debate without childish name calling? Unlikely to happen since those at the very top have resorted to using the very same technique.
Classic? I liked him in the snooker program and generation game, but maybe I've had my sense of humour ruined by the left. Maybe.
I was being ironic - just illustrates how dreadful his comedy was.
But back in the day that wasn’t the case......it was full on main stream, with BBC and media acceptance. Something you and many others fail to realise or accept.
I was around at the time and found him unfunny and offensive then - the Chalky character shows how crap he was. It may have been mainstream but it was dteadful.
But obviously not a view not shared by millions of fans at the time.
Fortunately times have changed and racist, homophobic comedy is not so popular.
Sadly they’ve been replaced in the mainstream by racist homophobic politicians.
and so called politically minded left wing comedians (the description is an ironic laugh all by itself) who advocate chucking battery acid on their political opponents
I do laugh when people try to defend the man that created Chalky White as not a racist. It was deemed racist in the 1970s as well, so nothing to do with 'the changing times'.
And Alf would probably have replied something like this;
'Bloody Tottenham! Bloody Tottenham! They never never won the world cup, we did you silly git! Bobby, Geoff and Martin all went for tea with Her Majesty the Queen they did, God bless her and them. I'm forever blowing bubbles'.
I do laugh when people try to defend the man that created Chalky White as not a racist. It was deemed racist in the 1970s as well, so nothing to do with 'the changing times'.
All about changing times actually. I remember the film The Dambusters . The dogs name in the film was Nigger.
That film must have been shown on tv for years and I don't think anyone at the time thought it was racist. Whenever the film is shown now the part where the dog is called by his name it is dubbed wigger or logger.
I haven’t seen Jim Davidson on anything since Big Break, so I have no idea what his routines are like these days. His old stuff is undeniably racist, but people can change. The extremely distasteful tone of his tweet about food banks isn’t exactly a good sign though.
This idea it was just totally fine to be racist in the 70s so it shouldn’t be held against people is complete hogwash.
The civil rights movement was years earlier, and there were plenty of people marching against the national front etc. Lots and lots of people knew racism was totally wrong and were campaigning against it. You can’t act like it was a completely different world and no one was trying to tell you that racism wasn’t okay.
That said, it was less unacceptable then and I can forgive people not knowing better, if they’ve since moved on. But if you can’t understand why acts like Chalky White are 100% not okay, then you probably are a racist and just because you were born 50 or 60 years ago, it doesn’t make it okay.
Classic? I liked him in the snooker program and generation game, but maybe I've had my sense of humour ruined by the left. Maybe.
I was being ironic - just illustrates how dreadful his comedy was.
But back in the day that wasn’t the case......it was full on main stream, with BBC and media acceptance. Something you and many others fail to realise or accept.
I was around at the time and found him unfunny and offensive then - the Chalky character shows how crap he was. It may have been mainstream but it was dteadful.
But obviously not a view not shared by millions of fans at the time.
Fortunately times have changed and racist, homophobic comedy is not so popular.
Sadly they’ve been replaced in the mainstream by racist homophobic politicians.
and so called politically minded left wing comedians (the description is an ironic laugh all by itself) who advocate chucking battery acid on their political opponents
One joke for which she had since apologized. So not really comparable to a career’s worth of Chalky White jokes, or the belligerent and repeated homophobia of someone like Anne Widdecombe. Or for that matter, just to show I’m not a one eyed leftie, the anti Semitic crap that comes out of certain sections of the Labour Party.
He certainly gets all the bed wetters wetting the bed. Never found him particularly funny in the day but he maintains my interest because of the reactions on here and he is undoubtedly an Addick.
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There are a lot of people on here whose shit doesn't stink. It must be nice to be so perfect.
'He is who he is'
So it's not an act then and he just spouts his opinions like a politician at a rally ?
I get that he is good at what he does, it fills a niche, I haven't seen him in years and strongly suspect I'd not like it. Whatever else you say about him, he is definitely a Charlton fan though.
WTF are you doing here?
Thing is. There are people out there who steal from food banks (as in they can afford to eat just choose to take free food as it’s there). And he made a joke of it. You either find it funny or you don’t. Can’t see the point of wasting energy getting offended by it.
Still, as Mr Davidson has blocked me on Twitter, I couldn’t care less.
LLLBH.
On behalf of my parents I apologise to you all for being born 30 years to early and missing out on the utopian world that you all dwell in.
And by not supporting your views, does not mean I support the opposite, it just means . I am from an age, where I believe a variety of elements can make up a world. An not that I personally am the only one who is 100% right.
Plenty of rightwing snowflakes that dont stop pissing and moaning too !
Am going to have bring more money for this round.
Fair play Ralph, fair play.
'Bloody Tottenham! Bloody Tottenham! They never never won the world cup, we did you silly git! Bobby, Geoff and Martin all went for tea with Her Majesty the Queen they did, God bless her and them. I'm forever blowing bubbles'.
I remember the film The Dambusters . The dogs name in the film was Nigger.
That film must have been shown on tv for years and I don't think anyone at the time thought it was racist.
Whenever the film is shown now the part where the dog is called by his name it is dubbed wigger or logger.
Times and attitudes change all the time.
This idea it was just totally fine to be racist in the 70s so it shouldn’t be held against people is complete hogwash.
The civil rights movement was years earlier, and there were plenty of people marching against the national front etc. Lots and lots of people knew racism was totally wrong and were campaigning against it. You can’t act like it was a completely different world and no one was trying to tell you that racism wasn’t okay.
That said, it was less unacceptable then and I can forgive people not knowing better, if they’ve since moved on. But if you can’t understand why acts like Chalky White are 100% not okay, then you probably are a racist and just because you were born 50 or 60 years ago, it doesn’t make it okay.
My dad is 75 and he found Jim Davidson unfunny and racist on the 70s and 80s and continues to do so now.