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Blackpool v Charlton 13/3/2018 post-match views
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Yeah the 3-1-6 Fraeye tried at least has two up front!NorthStandUltra said:At least Karel Fraeye had more than 1 formation in his pocket, unlike Robinson
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He might well do. The problem is, everytime we get a manager, eventually he ends up being "the worst manager we've ever had" or being "tactically limited". If you actually examined Charlton Life since its inception, you'd find that every manager we've ever had is terrible.alan dugdale said:
Do you still think he’ll turn it around ?cafcnick1992 said:
I wouldn't want to see the manager sacked.alan dugdale said:Is anyone on here still backing Robinson ?
We are under-achieving this season, but the instant "just sack him" comments we get on here are so moronic and lacking any intellect.6 -
Season over...hopefully new owner will have seen enough and realise what they need to do.0
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Where have I tried ti excuse Robinson of anything? I'm just realistic about what change sacking him can make. The club is broken. Its owner doesn't care about it and no one is actually running the show. Robinson has been trying to show leadership, but he's not able to do enough in the circumstances. I'm not sure many would but I'm not trying to pretend it'd all be hunky dory if Robinson was working in different circumstances. The lack of tactical flexibility is becoming beyond a joke.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
What are you talking about? We've lost three on the bounce and just lost to Blackpool who apparently haven't won at home since October.Exiled_Addick said:
I've heard that before Hoof, and it has, demonstrably, got worse.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
KR has been an utter waste of space and on top of that talks utter bollocks. It's not actually possible for the team to get any worse or for anyone to do a worse job.Exiled_Addick said:I had high hopes at the start of the season, but this season is fast turning into a run away train going in the wrong direction towards a collapsed bridge. There was an uptick in form ending last season and beginning this but, overall, despite numerous transfers (albeit on a tight budget) and a lot of opportunity for coaching, we're playing no better now than we were under Robinson a year ago, and we were shite a year ago.
It's got the feeling of the Pardew era again. Form spiraling out of control and seemingly nothing coming from the manager in terms of smart tactical adjustments or coaching improvements, just increasingly thin looking excuses. The only difference is Robinson still feels to me like a fairly genuine decent bloke, which I never felt about Pardew.
I can't bring myself to call for his head though. He's the only one who has been trying to give this club any direction over the last few months. If he leaves, goodness knows who or what Roland will put in charge given his current level of complete disinterest. I don't know if he could do worse than Fraeye, but I don't want to find out. And I certainly don't want someone like Jacko over exposed to this shit just yet.
It would cheer up a lot of fans if he went - I'm sure the players can manage quite happily without him.
One win and four defeats in the last seven when we are meant to be pushing for promotion. Our football is embarrassing to watch.
Sick of people trying to excuse the ineptitude of KR. We're not even competitive in L1 against the supposedly weaker teams.
But, I read on here than Parkinson "had to go" before Powell led us on a march further down the table before he got it right. Eventually though he "had to go" to be replaced by someone who achieved nothing that Powell would not have done. Then Peeters "had to go" before Luzon led us on a march towards League 1. Luzon "had to go" but we were treated to the clown Fraeye in his place and our form barely improved under his replacement Riga. Slade "had to go" before Robinson took us even closer to the trap door before eventually pulling away, but we are now flailing away in mid table in League 1 again.
Each managerial change was supposed to make it all better, but the only one that worked for any time was Powell, and that was after a VERY shaky start, but he was the only one given the luxury of reasonable financial backing (for one season only) and a club being run as a proper going concern by competent people (again for one season only). Thanks to the momentum built during that season and the sheer charisma of the man he was able to keep it rolling for about another 12 months but ultimately he succumbed to the rising waters of shit flooding out of the boardroom. Overall, most of the managerial changes since Curbs left have done no better than maintain the status quo and mostly the trend has been downards. What makes you so sure it'll be different if Robinson leaves?
Robinson will never be our ideal manager, but likewise no manager will be able to succeed here until we are once again being run as a proper going concern by competent people. We must hope that is what the takeover brings to the club and that it happens soon. If they want to replace Robinson, I won't stand in their way, but I don't want another one of Roland's half arsed appointments thrust on the club either.11 -
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I sat and watched TV all evening and didn't bother checking how the game was going or gone until 10:15 pm. That's a first for me and I can't say I am even much bothered about them losing. My wife is proud of me.2
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No matter how bad we are i cant boo id rather walk out than boo.golfaddick said:Can't wait for Saturday so I can boo VERY loudly. Just wished I sat in the West Stand so I could really give KR a mouthful.
1 win in 7. 1 goal in 3 games. 3 defeats on the spin. That is utter dog turd. Not only are we losing games we are not even threatening to score. As I said after Saturday, the new club initiative should be to pick a fan from the stands every week & they get to pick the side & give the team talk. I reckon they would do a better job than this clown we have. Probably worse manager in CAFC history - Karyle Fraye was foreign & had no knowledge of League football and still did a better job.
2 strikers in the team & he still plays 1 up front. I'm seething. 3 weeks ago we won at MK & went 6th - we are now 5 points of 6th and come Easter I reckon we'll be bottom half.
Next season we once again have the Checkatrade Trophy to look forward to as well as losing to Concord Rangers in the first round of the FA cup in the first week of November.
As they say about Brexit - No manager is better than a bad manager. If KR had any decency he'd stay up in the North West ¬ show his face ever again in SE7.3 -
Underachieved last season under him too. Finished lower than we were when we sacked Slade. Since then he's been given 2 transfer windows and guess what, we're still underperforming.cafcnick1992 said:
He might well do. The problem is, everytime we get a manager, eventually he ends up being "the worst manager we've ever had" or being "tactically limited". If you actually examined Charlton Life since its inception, you'd find that every manager we've ever had is terrible.alan dugdale said:
Do you still think he’ll turn it around ?cafcnick1992 said:
I wouldn't want to see the manager sacked.alan dugdale said:Is anyone on here still backing Robinson ?
We are under-achieving this season, but the instant "just sack him" comments we get on here are so moronic and lacking any intellect.
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Just thought I would lift this part of @Exiled_Addick post
Robinson will never be our ideal manager, but likewise no manager will be able to succeed here until we are once again being run as a proper going concern by competent people. We must hope that is what the takeover brings to the club and that it happens soon. If they want to replace Robinson, I won't stand in their way, but I don't want another one of Roland's half arsed appointments thrust on the club either.
because that, people, is what we need to get our heads around.9 -
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I only really get to the northern away games as I live in Manchester now, and that was easily the worst I've seen us play (excepting maybe Bury at home last year - but at least for that one I got the train down with my mates and we all got pissed). I feel for all those who travelled from the wonderful South London. Especially since I'm guessing most of you made that trip twice.
I feared my car park ticket was going to expire what with all the first half injury time so shot off at the final whistle (not that there was much to applaud at the end anyway) - did the players come over to clap or did they scurry away?0 -
Said it at the time. Murray's updates have only been to quieten the protests only telling us what we wanted to hear.NorthStandUltra said:
For fuck sake the club's on it's arse and we're on course to finish below Gillingham to complete another humiliating season.
Seriously the only thing we've not done yet is lose to Accrington Stanley - give that a year too and it might happen!
Protests need to resume until we see the takeover announced on the website. RD and RM have played us all for fools.3 -
Two very good posts on here from @Exiled_Addick who, like me, seems to recognise that we call for the head of managers every 6 months for the exact same reason as the preceding manager.
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He absolutely won't turn it around because he keeps going into games with tactics and formations that don't work for the squad that he's built.cafcnick1992 said:
He might well do. The problem is, everytime we get a manager, eventually he ends up being "the worst manager we've ever had" or being "tactically limited". If you actually examined Charlton Life since its inception, you'd find that every manager we've ever had is terrible.alan dugdale said:
Do you still think he’ll turn it around ?cafcnick1992 said:
I wouldn't want to see the manager sacked.alan dugdale said:Is anyone on here still backing Robinson ?
We are under-achieving this season, but the instant "just sack him" comments we get on here are so moronic and lacking any intellect.
Unless Spurs are willing to loan us Dele Alli and Bournemouth are willing to loan us Benik Afobe next season, we will have the same result again next year, and the year after. Because he'll still be playing to the same game plan and we'll still be getting turned over by teams that are prepared for it.
There are a number of very good reasons for getting rid at this point. It's no longer a knee jerk reaction to a bad month.10 -
Last 7 games 5 points GD of -6
Last 18 games 17 points GD of -10
10% 3rd-6th .......75% 7th-12th ........15% 13th-20th
100% Roland OUT3 -
Back to the curry thread.....0
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Hardly instant. We have won 5 games in our last 20 league matches. If you're still supporting or defending Robinson at this point then I don't know what to saycafcnick1992 said:
He might well do. The problem is, everytime we get a manager, eventually he ends up being "the worst manager we've ever had" or being "tactically limited". If you actually examined Charlton Life since its inception, you'd find that every manager we've ever had is terrible.alan dugdale said:
Do you still think he’ll turn it around ?cafcnick1992 said:
I wouldn't want to see the manager sacked.alan dugdale said:Is anyone on here still backing Robinson ?
We are under-achieving this season, but the instant "just sack him" comments we get on here are so moronic and lacking any intellect.7 -
Same as Slade, Riga, Peeters, Powell, Parkinson, Pardew....Callumcafc said:
He absolutely won't turn it around because he keeps going into games with tactics and formations that don't work for the squad that he's built.cafcnick1992 said:
He might well do. The problem is, everytime we get a manager, eventually he ends up being "the worst manager we've ever had" or being "tactically limited". If you actually examined Charlton Life since its inception, you'd find that every manager we've ever had is terrible.alan dugdale said:
Do you still think he’ll turn it around ?cafcnick1992 said:
I wouldn't want to see the manager sacked.alan dugdale said:Is anyone on here still backing Robinson ?
We are under-achieving this season, but the instant "just sack him" comments we get on here are so moronic and lacking any intellect.
Unless Spurs are willing to loan us Dele Alli and Bournemouth are willing to loan us Benik Afobe next season, we will have the same result again next year, and the year after. Because he'll still be playing to the same game plan.
There are a number of very good reasons for getting rid at this point. It's no longer a knee jerk reaction to a bad month.
zzz
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To remind you my rant from ages ago, no need to check the twatt's twits, they will chase and violate you and me, thanks to compliant sheepish main stream media.SDAddick said:I'm gonna go check Trump's Twitter feed just to take the edge off.
No escape...0 -
I would just love it if we could get a 100% boycott on Saturday. (Not Seb of course)
Sadly it will never happen1 -
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I was personally quite supportive of most of the managers above: Slade and Pardew are the exceptions on that list from memory. Slade for similar reasons to KR, Pardew because well... he's Pardew.cafcnick1992 said:
Same as Slade, Riga, Peeters, Powell, Parkinson, Pardew....Callumcafc said:
He absolutely won't turn it around because he keeps going into games with tactics and formations that don't work for the squad that he's built.cafcnick1992 said:
He might well do. The problem is, everytime we get a manager, eventually he ends up being "the worst manager we've ever had" or being "tactically limited". If you actually examined Charlton Life since its inception, you'd find that every manager we've ever had is terrible.alan dugdale said:
Do you still think he’ll turn it around ?cafcnick1992 said:
I wouldn't want to see the manager sacked.alan dugdale said:Is anyone on here still backing Robinson ?
We are under-achieving this season, but the instant "just sack him" comments we get on here are so moronic and lacking any intellect.
Unless Spurs are willing to loan us Dele Alli and Bournemouth are willing to loan us Benik Afobe next season, we will have the same result again next year, and the year after. Because he'll still be playing to the same game plan.
There are a number of very good reasons for getting rid at this point. It's no longer a knee jerk reaction to a bad month.
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Those guys that I supported tried different things. They knew the strengths and weaknesses of their squads and tried to adjust accordingly. I was genuinely confident that they could do a good job with proper backing (Parky, Powell, Riga...).
Robinson just doesn't inspire me with that same confidence. He sets up with his preferred formation and shoehorns players in around it like he's playing FIFA online.3 -
I don't get to games much these days. Living in the North West, Duche reign etc. This was my first game since December 2014.
Turned up at 6, waved through into the Presidential area, the pre game consisted of Carrot and Corriander Soup for starters and then Grilled Gammon wholegrain mustard sauce with new potatoes and braised red cabbage (You will be glad to know vol au vents were not available). That warmed me up and so did the heated seat as I watched the game from the Directors area.
The game provided no warmth. Early on disruption through injury caused delays and both teams struggled to find rhythm. Blackpool settled first and although play was patchy they could have easily been leading at half time. The second half wasn't much better. We increasingly used delaying tactics to kill time and showed no positive attacking aspirations. Blackpool lacked quality but gave it all they had to get that goal.
When the goal finally came, it was not 'unlucky Charlton'. It was 'You reap what you sow'. We simply didn't deserve a point. We mixed up tippy tappy one two's on a cold uneven pitch with aimless long balls to no one. When we had the ball, no one made themselves available to receive. We lacked ambition. We came for a point and got nothing.
With no takeover news in sight. I came away cold.9 -
Cant believe I agree with you but I don't see the point in sacking him either. I couldn't give a shit about Robinson, never have. There is only one aim to stop this club dying on it arse and that's been the case for the last 2 years. Serious damage is being done right now and people need to wake up. 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, win, lose it's all irrelevant. Our club has been taken away. Get Roland Out FFS.cafcnick1992 said:Two very good posts on here from @Exiled_Addick who, like me, seems to recognise that we call for the head of managers every 6 months for the exact same reason as the preceding manager.
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Formation wise it looked like he changed it to 4-3-3 second half. Fosu much further up (higher than Josh on several occasions). We were just still terrible.0
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I can honestly say that the only manager I've ever really wanted to get the sack is Karel Fraeye. I thought his appointment was an insult to the club.1
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I think everyone knows Roland is the biggest issue with the club but that doesn't mean we can't point out other areas that we need drastic improvement in alongside that?Nug said:
Cant believe I agree with you but I don't see the point in sacking him either. I couldn't give a shit about Robinson, never have. There is only one aim to stop this club dying on it arse and that's been the case for the last 2 years. Serious damage is being done right now and people need to wake up. 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, win, lose it's all irrelevant. Our club has been taken away. Get Roland Out FFS.cafcnick1992 said:Two very good posts on here from @Exiled_Addick who, like me, seems to recognise that we call for the head of managers every 6 months for the exact same reason as the preceding manager.
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He needs to go but as I said before the whole team does more or less. Amos stopped it being 4 goals to nil I would say. Only clear chance we had was probably that awful unmarked header by Zyro.
I'll honestly lose my mind if people try and claim we play any sort of stylish football again. Blackpool (yes the same ones who are without a doubt in more of a crisis than we are) just had more than double our shots, 15 or so more corners than us AND had more of the ball when our formation is possession based. We are absolute pony. We were carried early doors by Holmes, Clarke and Fosu pre-injury and without them we have been exposed.
Seen a few people say they didn't care when they scored and I know exactly where they are coming from, I had the iFollow crap quality stream on and the missus had bake off on, when they scored all I could say was you knew it was coming and I just don't even care.
Lastly people need to not get confused by Robinsons fake passion, he's an actor and a decent one at that, when he does get shown the door that should be his next career choice, he's very unfortunate that Brookside is off the air. When he took Zyro off I think he was sort of telling him to hurry up, two seconds later Amos is time wasting a goal kick again. Also noticed a lot of our players throwing the ball away for goalkicks and throw ins, it's almost like they know we are crap, know they have a soft manager that won't give them a bollocking, that they will get paid regardless and be allowed to have another booze up in a few weeks.
Takeover soon please, dreadful little team with a dreadful little manager.7 -
Deck chairs and Titanic come to mind.Callumcafc said:
I think everyone knows Roland is the biggest issue with the club but that doesn't mean we can't point out other areas that we need drastic improvement in alongside that?Nug said:
Cant believe I agree with you but I don't see the point in sacking him either. I couldn't give a shit about Robinson, never have. There is only one aim to stop this club dying on it arse and that's been the case for the last 2 years. Serious damage is being done right now and people need to wake up. 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, win, lose it's all irrelevant. Our club has been taken away. Get Roland Out FFS.cafcnick1992 said:Two very good posts on here from @Exiled_Addick who, like me, seems to recognise that we call for the head of managers every 6 months for the exact same reason as the preceding manager.
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