Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway? Surely that’s bound to create aggro, when they’re on the pitch celebrating.
Maybe we need to move the Upper North crowd to the empty blocks of the Lower West near the Jimmy Seed...
This all happened right in front of me and I seriously think the average age of these 'hardcore fans' was about 15. There were a couple of exceptions but these were mostly over excited kids showing a bit of bravado from a distance. Scenes following their goal were not pretty at all and I was genuinely shocked when I saw the spray being used.
I’m not saying our fans where saints yesterday but the mop I was stood around in the pub one being the bloke in orange and alot of the others around him in the ground were horrible scummy Jeremy Kyle stars.
In fairness that’s the third time I’ve been Shrewsbury and not seen them or had any problems so can’t tar them all with one brush but I really hope they get smashed at Wembley and disappear back down the leagues.
I left the Wild Pig just when the 5/6 police vans vans turned up. Didn’t fancy being escorted up to the ground.
Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.
It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.
Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
I don't agree. We were sitting in the 4th row at the very end of that block & so directly in front of where it all kicked off.
Yes, the Shrewsbury fans started it by spilling onto the pitch & taunting us, but most of them were soon herded back into their stand. Our lot were so intent on getting at them the stewards were soon overwhelmed & so the ob had to be deployed. Even then our lot wouldn't back down & decided the ob were then the target. I estimate 30-40 fans were involved & it got so bad that the ob had no choice but to resort to using pepper spray. Not only was the hoarding complety ripped out of the ground but the concrete area around it was damaged too.....to me it resembled the scene at Hillsborough where you see bent & crumpled barriers. We were mildly affected by the pepper spray ourselves & could feel it at the back our throats.
So bad was the disturbance that we missed the fact that we had brought on Kaikai & Mavididi - never heard the sub announcements & only knew they were on about 10 mins later.
The ob gave as good as they got imo. I'm not going to go down the route of saying our lot were disgraceful etc - its what happens (very occasionly I'm glad to say) when beer-ed up 20 somethings are looking for trouble. It could easy be a city centre at closing time. However, I have no sympathy for any of those caught up in it. They had it coming.
I thing it did do was brighten up a very predictable result. Golfie Jnr wont forget it in a hurry.....
Maybe says as much as anything on the post match thread about the performance.
the fat oaf in orange looking for an altercation = odious prick not welcome at football should be prosecuted kindly fuck off and stay away anybody else looking to 'go down and sort him out etc' = odious prick not welcome at football kindly fuck off and stay away the coward who lumped Bow from behind = odious prick not welcome at football should be prosecuted kindly fuck off and stay away anybody in uniform indiscriminately spraying CS gas about = odious prick who shames his uniform, should be sacked and prosecuted anybody defending any of the above is an odious prick not welcome at football kindly fuck off and stay away
I wasn't there yesterday but out of interest, is anyone going to make an official complaint? All of this pepper spray malarkey looked totally unnecessary to me.
I wasn't there yesterday but out of interest, is anyone going to make an official complaint? All of this pepper spray malarkey looked totally unnecessary to me.
having not seen the crowd incidents I can't comment but I have just emailed Shrewsbury asking what there response will be to Lee Bowyer being hit by one of their fans on camera.
I wasn't there yesterday but out of interest, is anyone going to make an official complaint? All of this pepper spray malarkey looked totally unnecessary to me.
The West Mercia force are investigating the use of force. Might be advisable to await the outcome of that investigation before lodging any complaints. If they find it was, in their opinion, a proportionate and correct use of pepper spray then that's the time to lodge a complaint (I would suggest the Trust and/or the Club).
Well to me it removed the angry baying mob away from that corner , so the old bill will call it justified in the result it produced , even though some non aggressors suffered in the aftermath
Out of interest, is this the first time in the UK the police has used this tactic (pepper spraying) football supporters with the stadium?
Is there precedent does anyone know?
It was a huge 'no no' back when I worked at the toolbox. Was included in the briefing notes. Too much of a risk to let it off in the confined environs of a stadium. And I never saw it in all my time working in football policing. But I've been gone awhile now.
It shocked me when I first saw it. That smacks of panic to me. If you can't deal with a few lary teenagers at a football match without getting your spray out, you shouldn't be there imo.
Out of interest, is this the first time in the UK the police has used this tactic (pepper spraying) football supporters with the stadium?
Is there precedent does anyone know?
It was a huge 'no no' back when I worked at the toolbox. Was included in the briefing notes. Too much of a risk to let it off in the confined environs of a stadium. And I never saw it in all my time working in football policing. But I've been gone awhile now.
It shocked me when I first saw it. That smacks of panic to me. If you can't deal with a few lary teenagers at a football match without getting your spray out, you shouldn't be there imo.
Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.
It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.
Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
That'll be 90% of the grounds we visit as well.
Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.
Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.
It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.
Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
That'll be 90% of the grounds we visit as well.
Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.
Can we brand them after locking them up?
Never noticed it when I used to go to away games, apart from the one place. Perhaps it's you?
Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.
It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.
Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
That'll be 90% of the grounds we visit as well.
Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.
Can we brand them after locking them up?
Never noticed it when I used to go to away games, apart from the one place. Perhaps it's you?
Yeah, that's why I said 90% of the grounds we visit.
it mainly seems to have happened with a few of these new lower division grounds where the hardcore home fans end up in a side stand, rather than at one end
Loads of club's have the kids watching the away fans all game, Millwall being the worst at it and Blackburn the funniest when the oldest is about 13. Oldham throw the most stuff.
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Long time coming.
Is there precedent does anyone know?
anybody else looking to 'go down and sort him out etc' = odious prick not welcome at football kindly fuck off and stay away
the coward who lumped Bow from behind = odious prick not welcome at football should be prosecuted kindly fuck off and stay away
anybody in uniform indiscriminately spraying CS gas about = odious prick who shames his uniform, should be sacked and prosecuted
anybody defending any of the above is an odious prick not welcome at football kindly fuck off and stay away
Was included in the briefing notes. Too much of a risk to let it off in the confined environs of a stadium.
And I never saw it in all my time working in football policing.
But I've been gone awhile now.
It shocked me when I first saw it. That smacks of panic to me.
If you can't deal with a few lary teenagers at a football match without getting your spray out, you shouldn't be there imo.
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Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.
Can we brand them after locking them up?