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Charlton fans pepper sprayed? (Ed. Police statement page 3)

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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Not surprising that their fans behave like that given the way their team plays football,
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    WSS said:

    Bet we get them first game of the season if they lose in the final.

    Or we'll get them on a tuesday night in January and take 236 fans
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    Old bill bastards
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,768
    What we need to consider is that Shrewsbury is almost in Wales. The welsh love a scrap!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited May 2018
    Taxi_Lad said:

    What we need to consider is that Shrewsbury is almost in Wales. The welsh love a scrap!

    Yeah, there was a massive Welshman (Charlton "supporter"), right at the front of the scrap. I hope you're taking note Richard Murray !
  • mattaddick
    mattaddick Posts: 655

    Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway? Surely that’s bound to create aggro, when they’re on the pitch celebrating.

    Maybe we need to move the Upper North crowd to the empty blocks of the Lower West near the Jimmy Seed...

    This all happened right in front of me and I seriously think the average age of these 'hardcore fans' was about 15. There were a couple of exceptions but these were mostly over excited kids showing a bit of bravado from a distance. Scenes following their goal were not pretty at all and I was genuinely shocked when I saw the spray being used.
  • I’m not saying our fans where saints yesterday but the mop I was stood around in the pub one being the bloke in orange and alot of the others around him in the ground were horrible scummy Jeremy Kyle stars.

    In fairness that’s the third time I’ve been Shrewsbury and not seen them or had any problems so can’t tar them all with one brush but I really hope they get smashed at Wembley and disappear back down the leagues.

    I left the Wild Pig just when the 5/6 police vans vans turned up. Didn’t fancy being escorted up to the ground.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    edited May 2018

    Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.

    It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.

    Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
    Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026

    Drexy said:

    Police went way over board

    I don't agree. We were sitting in the 4th row at the very end of that block & so directly in front of where it all kicked off.

    Yes, the Shrewsbury fans started it by spilling onto the pitch & taunting us, but most of them were soon herded back into their stand. Our lot were so intent on getting at them the stewards were soon overwhelmed & so the ob had to be deployed. Even then our lot wouldn't back down & decided the ob were then the target. I estimate 30-40 fans were involved & it got so bad that the ob had no choice but to resort to using pepper spray. Not only was the hoarding complety ripped out of the ground but the concrete area around it was damaged too.....to me it resembled the scene at Hillsborough where you see bent & crumpled barriers. We were mildly affected by the pepper spray ourselves & could feel it at the back our throats.

    So bad was the disturbance that we missed the fact that we had brought on Kaikai & Mavididi - never heard the sub announcements & only knew they were on about 10 mins later.

    The ob gave as good as they got imo. I'm not going to go down the route of saying our lot were disgraceful etc - its what happens (very occasionly I'm glad to say) when beer-ed up 20 somethings are looking for trouble. It could easy be a city centre at closing time. However, I have no sympathy for any of those caught up in it. They had it coming.

    I thing it did do was brighten up a very predictable result. Golfie Jnr wont forget it in a hurry.....
    Maybe says as much as anything on the post match thread about the performance.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    just read a certain individual got pepper sprayed yesterday.

    Long time coming.
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  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,428
    edited May 2018
    Kentaddick - surely the mad Belgian wasn't at the game?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Out of interest, is this the first time in the UK the police has used this tactic (pepper spraying) football supporters with the stadium?

    Is there precedent does anyone know?
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,595

    just read a certain individual got pepper sprayed yesterday.

    Long time coming.

    Blimey, didn't realise the OB made it up to the Directors box!
  • charltonman2016
    charltonman2016 Posts: 1,118

    RedPanda said:

    I'm an eye witness. If pepper spray was necessary why weren't home fans sprayed? Dickhead local plod looking after their own.

    This.
    Completely agree
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Kentaddick - surely the mad Belgian was at the game?

    mad welshman more like
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    the fat oaf in orange looking for an altercation = odious prick not welcome at football should be prosecuted kindly fuck off and stay away
    anybody else looking to 'go down and sort him out etc' = odious prick not welcome at football kindly fuck off and stay away
    the coward who lumped Bow from behind = odious prick not welcome at football should be prosecuted kindly fuck off and stay away
    anybody in uniform indiscriminately spraying CS gas about = odious prick who shames his uniform, should be sacked and prosecuted
    anybody defending any of the above is an odious prick not welcome at football kindly fuck off and stay away
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    I wasn't there yesterday but out of interest, is anyone going to make an official complaint? All of this pepper spray malarkey looked totally unnecessary to me.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    _MrDick said:

    I wasn't there yesterday but out of interest, is anyone going to make an official complaint? All of this pepper spray malarkey looked totally unnecessary to me.

    The West Mercia force are investigating the use of force. Might be advisable to await the outcome of that investigation before lodging any complaints. If they find it was, in their opinion, a proportionate and correct use of pepper spray then that's the time to lodge a complaint (I would suggest the Trust and/or the Club).
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    Well to me it removed the angry baying mob away from that corner , so the old bill will call it justified in the result it produced , even though some non aggressors suffered in the aftermath
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,607
    .

    Out of interest, is this the first time in the UK the police has used this tactic (pepper spraying) football supporters with the stadium?

    Is there precedent does anyone know?

    It was a huge 'no no' back when I worked at the toolbox.
    Was included in the briefing notes. Too much of a risk to let it off in the confined environs of a stadium.
    And I never saw it in all my time working in football policing.
    But I've been gone awhile now.

    It shocked me when I first saw it. That smacks of panic to me.
    If you can't deal with a few lary teenagers at a football match without getting your spray out, you shouldn't be there imo.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008

    Kentaddick - surely the mad Belgian wasn't at the game?

    Mad Welshman.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    .

    Out of interest, is this the first time in the UK the police has used this tactic (pepper spraying) football supporters with the stadium?

    Is there precedent does anyone know?

    It was a huge 'no no' back when I worked at the toolbox.
    Was included in the briefing notes. Too much of a risk to let it off in the confined environs of a stadium.
    And I never saw it in all my time working in football policing.
    But I've been gone awhile now.

    It shocked me when I first saw it. That smacks of panic to me.
    If you can't deal with a few lary teenagers at a football match without getting your spray out, you shouldn't be there imo.
    It was the ob with the spray

    ; )
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859

    Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.

    It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.

    Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
    Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
    That'll be 90% of the grounds we visit as well.

    Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.

    Can we brand them after locking them up?
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156

    Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.

    It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.

    Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
    Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
    That'll be 90% of the grounds we visit as well.

    Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.

    Can we brand them after locking them up?
    Never noticed it when I used to go to away games, apart from the one place. Perhaps it's you?
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited May 2018

    Big Bad World is gonna have a field day when he joins this thread.

    It was West Ham fans. Saw it wiv me own eyes, guvnah.

    Seriously, though, welcome to our world. Although someone seems to have removed the much coveted filter.
    Funny enough when I read this earlier in the thread: "Why are Shrewsbury’s hardcore fans located right next to the away fans anyway?" It reminded me of somewhere else a little mob congregates with the sole intention of goading away fans, and gets away with it...
    That'll be 90% of the grounds we visit as well.

    Lock 'em all up. There's absolutely no justification for gesticulating towards people.

    Can we brand them after locking them up?
    Never noticed it when I used to go to away games, apart from the one place. Perhaps it's you?
    Yeah, that's why I said 90% of the grounds we visit.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    edited May 2018
    it mainly seems to have happened with a few of these new lower division grounds where the hardcore home fans end up in a side stand, rather than at one end
  • E_cafc
    E_cafc Posts: 2,617
    They used to go in the side terrace at their old ground as well if I remember rightly.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,091
    Loads of club's have the kids watching the away fans all game, Millwall being the worst at it and Blackburn the funniest when the oldest is about 13. Oldham throw the most stuff.