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Mark Marshall told he can leave

WSS
WSS Posts: 25,117
One year left on contract. Who is making these decisions at the moment?

https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-will-not-block-summer-exit-for-winger/

(I know it's on the rumours thread, but probably deserves one of its own)
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,078
    If he’s got one year left on his contract, does that mean it’s been paid off?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    Bowyer and Jacko have been told by our new Aussie overlords, who bought the club weeks ago but are just waiting for ELF sign off and Muir to fly back to announce, that they are carrying on next season and to buy and sell players. *
























    * some aspects of this post maybe speculation
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    Surely it should be a decision for the manager to make! Maybe Bowyer has been given power to plan for next season. Might be a sign!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,435

    If he’s got one year left on his contract, does that mean it’s been paid off?

    I assume that in old language "he's on the transfer list"

    No reason to pay him off
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,568
    edited June 2018
    Reading between the lines it would seem that he threw a wobbly at not being in the starting line up for the run in and playoffs and shot his mouth off maybe?
    This eventually led to him not even being in the squad.
    It must be said he was something of a disappointment and speaking for myself he won’t be missed that much.
    This is just my opinion based on something I’ve heard.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,422
    Weird. The way that article is phrased though it could be read that they won't stop him if he wants to go. He's had some personal issues that have had him travelling recently so it could possibly be him wanting to move more than us booting him out. I hope so as he would make for an experienced back-up in League One that we could use
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    edited June 2018
    Yes, very plausible, so you could understand Bowyer taking that decision. But if he is able to make these decisions he must have been given power to do so. A new manager coming in might want Marshall!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,724

    Given the amount of players we already need to replace (Amos, Dasilva, Kashi, Zyro, Mavididi etc) can we really afford to be letting other squad players go? Marshall is more than capable at this level for 1 more season.

    Agree though he's probably on a good wage for a squad player. Was signed on a free and seen as one of our big signings last summer.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,187

    Surely it should be a decision for the manager to make! Maybe Bowyer has been given power to plan for next season. Might be a sign!

    https://youtu.be/Ka9mfZbTFbk

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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,302
    Copied from the other thread:

    Shame about Marshall as I think with a solid full back behind him, and playing two up front, he could be really effective.

    He started the season well behind others by having that bad injury suffered in pre season, and was a victim of Robinson’s love in to Holmes and the form that Fosu had been on. He then was played on the right where he had at least 3 different right backs behind him throughout the season, two of which are young and isn’t their normal position. He’s a winger who is more about putting the ball in the box, and he maybe didn’t do that enough this season just gone, but probably because most of the time we only had Magennis in there.

    If he goes to another club in League One, I think we will see it would be a mistake to let him go.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I think he could become a solid full back.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,497

    I think he could become a solid full back.

    I think that's his only way forward. Negligible as an attacking threat
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,966
    He’s obviously fallen out with the coaching staff . It’s not a big loss to be fair . He’s been a major disappointment. I can’t remember him going past a defender with the ball although he did have a few good games when he tracked back really well .
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593
    edited June 2018
    To me this suggests Bowyer will be in charge next season which is sensible, will mean he will know what he is not needed (Marshall) and what is needed for the squad.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,980
    He did appear to have a hissy fit in the play offs so i would guess it got a bit out of hand and Hatchet Man Bowyer has told him where to go.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Would have kept him as a squad player but not bothered if he goes. He's a decent League 1 player on a good day but doesn't have enough of them.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,435
    I've no problem with him leaving as long as we're busy recruiting for next season as well...
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,355
    I'd keep him. Offers cover for the right back, puts in a shift, hard worker.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,355

    Reading between the lines it would seem that he threw a wobbly at not being in the starting line up for the run in and playoffs and shot his mouth off maybe?
    This eventually led to him not even being in the squad.
    It must be said he was something of a disappointment and speaking for myself he won’t be missed that much.
    This is just my opinion based on something I’ve heard.

    He should've started though.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,535
    He played in 27 league games last season, I believe he started 20 times. He had 1 goal and 2 assists. I think the early injury and the late start really hurt him. But I didn't see anything in him that made me think he was anything other than an okay squad player. His touch was absolutely woeful at times, and he just rarely, if ever, looked dangerous going forward.

    Great game against Blackburn. I think we'll always remember him for being the hero that day. But given he was signed on a free, he's probably on decent wages and he's 32 and a player who bases a lot of his game on pace so I can't really see him drastically improving over the next couple years. Good workmate obviously, but I don't know if he has the positional sense and defensive capabilities to switch to a fullback so late in his career.

    He always seemed like a very nice guy so I'm a little bit surprised to hear about the falling out.

    If he stays I think he'd be a decent squad player, but that may not be what he wants, which is understandable. But going on last season, I don't think he'd be a huge loss. I'm not convinced he'd be able to get a status any higher than squad player at a League One team chasing promotion.
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    Our best player against Blackburn in a big game for us and then gets dropped for play offs,still doesn’t make sense
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,255
    Huge game against Blackburn but otherwise a major disappointment over the season given the hype. Won’t be bothered if he leaves on the assumption/hope/delusion that we will bring in better.
  • Abandon ship!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,601
    Let's be honest, if you take out Marshall's last 5 games for us, no-one would give a shit.

    Those final 5 games changed a lot of people's perception of Marshall
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,535
    sam3110 said:

    Let's be honest, if you take out Marshall's last 5 games for us, no-one would give a shit.

    Those final 5 games changed a lot of people's perception of Marshall

    Good against Blackburn, good against Pompey, I thought he did a job against Shrewsbury in the league game but wasn't particularly special, what two am I missing?
  • Howells
    Howells Posts: 253
    SDAddick said:

    sam3110 said:

    Let's be honest, if you take out Marshall's last 5 games for us, no-one would give a shit.

    Those final 5 games changed a lot of people's perception of Marshall

    Good against Blackburn, good against Pompey, I thought he did a job against Shrewsbury in the league game but wasn't particularly special, what two am I missing?
    Defensively he was incredible in the 3 games you mention.
    One against Blackburn, (I think), where he tracked back 50 yards and made block that Richard Rufus would be proud of.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735
    Howells said:

    SDAddick said:

    sam3110 said:

    Let's be honest, if you take out Marshall's last 5 games for us, no-one would give a shit.

    Those final 5 games changed a lot of people's perception of Marshall

    Good against Blackburn, good against Pompey, I thought he did a job against Shrewsbury in the league game but wasn't particularly special, what two am I missing?
    Defensively he was incredible in the 3 games you mention.
    One against Blackburn, (I think), where he tracked back 50 yards and made block that Richard Rufus would be proud of.
    Then again, that's not really why you sign wingers, sure it's a bonus, but he really hasn't impressed much going forward.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,535
    Missed It said:

    Howells said:

    SDAddick said:

    sam3110 said:

    Let's be honest, if you take out Marshall's last 5 games for us, no-one would give a shit.

    Those final 5 games changed a lot of people's perception of Marshall

    Good against Blackburn, good against Pompey, I thought he did a job against Shrewsbury in the league game but wasn't particularly special, what two am I missing?
    Defensively he was incredible in the 3 games you mention.
    One against Blackburn, (I think), where he tracked back 50 yards and made block that Richard Rufus would be proud of.
    Then again, that's not really why you sign wingers, sure it's a bonus, but he really hasn't impressed much going forward.
    Yeah that's the thing, he was very good defensively at times, but he looked so awkward on the ball at times that I'd almost worry about playing him at fullback if he was able to defend and pick up the positioning of a fullback.

    His cross was largely woeful. I struggle to think of him beating a man with the ball at his feet, and his touch was poor. I think he is capable of better, but I don't know how much better.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Reading between the lines it would seem that he threw a wobbly at not being in the starting line up for the run in and playoffs and shot his mouth off maybe?
    This eventually led to him not even being in the squad.
    It must be said he was something of a disappointment and speaking for myself he won’t be missed that much.
    This is just my opinion based on something I’ve heard.

    He should've started though.
    And done what? Especially in the second leg. He would be a decent League 1 winger if we had others around him who could create, and I think he was unlucky to miss out in the first leg to help protect the RB, but when we needed to go for it in the second leg then I don't believe he should have started