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Carabao (EFL) and Checkatrade Cup changes

killerandflashkillerandflash
in General Charlton
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44415928

No more extra time in the Carabao Cup (except the final)

And in the Checkatrade EFL clubs (i.e. us) will now be able to include players who are on loan at National League clubs. This could be handy in that players we've loaned out to National League clubs can still get some experience playing for our "first" team.
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  • killerandflashkillerandflash
    paulie8290 said:

    killerandflash said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44415928

    No more extra time in the Carabao Cup (except the final)

    And in the Checkatrade EFL clubs (i.e. us) will now be able to include players who are on loan at National League clubs. This could be handy in that players we've loaned out to National League clubs can still get some experience playing for our "first" team.

    Dont like this idea.

    We loan a player out he plays for his team on Saturday, on Monday we say we want him for Tuesday nights game.

    Then the club he is on loan to will lose him for 2 or 3 days with travelling and training with our team and it messes there training up, also we then have a player playing who is not used to playing with our team and players as he has been out on loan for ages.

    He then has to travel back to his loan team intime to play on saturday.

    IMO if a player is out on loan thats it he should only play for us if we recall him
    I doubt there will be much travelling needed as most NL loans tend to be to local clubs, and the Checkatrade group games are all fairly local too. And it's not as if much of our training will be geared towards Checkatrade matches next season anyway!

    I imagine there will be discussions between both clubs as to whether the player should be recalled for the match or not
  • East_Stand_LoopyEast_Stand_Loopy
    killerandflash said:

    paulie8290 said:

    killerandflash said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44415928

    No more extra time in the Carabao Cup (except the final)

    And in the Checkatrade EFL clubs (i.e. us) will now be able to include players who are on loan at National League clubs. This could be handy in that players we've loaned out to National League clubs can still get some experience playing for our "first" team.

    Dont like this idea.

    We loan a player out he plays for his team on Saturday, on Monday we say we want him for Tuesday nights game.

    Then the club he is on loan to will lose him for 2 or 3 days with travelling and training with our team and it messes there training up, also we then have a player playing who is not used to playing with our team and players as he has been out on loan for ages.

    He then has to travel back to his loan team intime to play on saturday.

    IMO if a player is out on loan thats it he should only play for us if we recall him
    I doubt there will be much travelling needed as most NL loans tend to be to local clubs, and the Checkatrade group games are all fairly local too. And it's not as if much of our training will be geared towards Checkatrade matches next season anyway!

    I imagine there will be discussions between both clubs as to whether the player should be recalled for the match or not
    I disagree. No discussion at all. One club owns the player's registration, the other doesn't...

    After all, the NL club will send the player back quickly enough if they were to get injured...
  • killerandflashkillerandflash
    East_Stand_Loopy said:

    killerandflash said:

    paulie8290 said:

    killerandflash said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44415928

    No more extra time in the Carabao Cup (except the final)

    And in the Checkatrade EFL clubs (i.e. us) will now be able to include players who are on loan at National League clubs. This could be handy in that players we've loaned out to National League clubs can still get some experience playing for our "first" team.

    Dont like this idea.

    We loan a player out he plays for his team on Saturday, on Monday we say we want him for Tuesday nights game.

    Then the club he is on loan to will lose him for 2 or 3 days with travelling and training with our team and it messes there training up, also we then have a player playing who is not used to playing with our team and players as he has been out on loan for ages.

    He then has to travel back to his loan team intime to play on saturday.

    IMO if a player is out on loan thats it he should only play for us if we recall him
    I doubt there will be much travelling needed as most NL loans tend to be to local clubs, and the Checkatrade group games are all fairly local too. And it's not as if much of our training will be geared towards Checkatrade matches next season anyway!

    I imagine there will be discussions between both clubs as to whether the player should be recalled for the match or not
    I disagree. No discussion at all. One club owns the player's registration, the other doesn't...

    After all, the NL club will send the player back quickly enough if they were to get injured...
    As the Checkatrade is nonsense in so many other ways, I see no problem in letting our players play for both our Checktrade team and a NL side.
  • addick05addick05
    cabbles said:

    Chizz said:

    Why oh why oh why do they have to mess with something so important as the Checkatrade Trophy? Is nothing sacred in this country any more?

    I was hoping they’d de-regionalised it and signed a deal with Netflix for 8pm Sunday night kick offs
    I was hoping they would scrap this pointless competition altogether! Can't see why anyone gets worked about this in the first place.
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    I reckon they should put three goals at each end. You can now throw the ball into the goals with your hands and each goal is worth ten points. They should also have a separate ball on the pitch that when it's caught awards 150 points and ends the match.
  • SDAddickSDAddick
    paulie8290 said:

    killerandflash said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44415928

    No more extra time in the Carabao Cup (except the final)

    And in the Checkatrade EFL clubs (i.e. us) will now be able to include players who are on loan at National League clubs. This could be handy in that players we've loaned out to National League clubs can still get some experience playing for our "first" team.

    Dont like this idea.

    We loan a player out he plays for his team on Saturday, on Monday we say we want him for Tuesday nights game.

    Then the club he is on loan to will lose him for 2 or 3 days with travelling and training with our team and it messes there training up, also we then have a player playing who is not used to playing with our team and players as he has been out on loan for ages.

    He then has to travel back to his loan team intime to play on saturday.

    IMO if a player is out on loan thats it he should only play for us if we recall him
    We basically did it with RCC this last year. Because you can recall players from outside the EFL, you can basically recall them, play them, then theoretically send them back. In many ways this closes that loophole by just allowing you to play them.
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  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    Can’t believe anyone cares enough about this stupid competition to even discuss it
  • FumbluffFumbluff
    edited June 2018
    Callumcafc said:

    I reckon they should put three goals at each end. You can now throw the ball into the goals with your hands and each goal is worth ten points. They should also have a separate ball on the pitch that when it's caught awards 150 points and ends the match.

    You just want someone to say golden snatch right?
  • Chris_from_SidcupChris_from_Sidcup
    killerandflash said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44415928

    No more extra time in the Carabao Cup (except the final)

    And in the Checkatrade EFL clubs (i.e. us) will now be able to include players who are on loan at National League clubs. This could be handy in that players we've loaned out to National League clubs can still get some experience playing for our "first" team.

    Surely can't be too much longer before they scrap the league cup completely.

    I'd be surprised if it still exists in 4-5 years time.
  • AddicksAddictAddicksAddict
    Callumcafc said:

    I reckon they should put three goals at each end. You can now throw the ball into the goals with your hands and each goal is worth ten points. They should also have a separate ball on the pitch that when it's caught awards 150 points and ends the match.

    And you're allowed to bring your broom with you?
  • AddickFC81AddickFC81
    We could end up playing Villa in Round 1 if they fall into the Southern section.
  • RedroboRedrobo
    AddickFC81 said:

    We could end up playing Villa in Round 1 if they fall into the Southern section.

    Wow, makes it all worthwhile.
  • thai malaysia addickthai malaysia addick
    Callumcafc said:

    I reckon they should put three goals at each end. You can now throw the ball into the goals with your hands and each goal is worth ten points. They should also have a separate ball on the pitch that when it's caught awards 150 points and ends the match.

    Just too silly now. :smiley:
  • killerandflashkillerandflash
    Last season Sunderland had their U21s in the Checkatrade. This season it will be their first team!
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  • ScohamScoham
    edited June 2018
    Steve McManaman, Louis Saha and Dennis Wise to do the draw on Friday, which will take place in Vietnam.

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5b1e840f79f94/charltons-ball-number-confirmed-for-fridays-carabao-cup-draw
  • thai malaysia addickthai malaysia addick
    Scoham said:

    Steve McManaman, Louis Saha and Dennis Wise to do the draw on Friday, which will take place in Vietnam.

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5b1e840f79f94/charltons-ball-number-confirmed-for-fridays-carabao-cup-draw

    Oh well, that should make it much more interesting.
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    Why is the draw in bloody Vietnam!!!... Christ almighty!!!
  • BoysieBoysie
    Scoham said:

    Steve McManaman, Louis Saha and Dennis Wise to do the draw on Friday, which will take place in Vietnam.

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5b1e840f79f94/charltons-ball-number-confirmed-for-fridays-carabao-cup-draw


    Just continues the farce that this competition has become.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Why is the draw in bloody Vietnam!!!... Christ almighty!!!

    They had to go that far to find more than 2 people who gave a toss?


    I suspect Carabao is a big brand in the far east is the real reason.
  • killerandflashkillerandflash
    Scoham said:

    Steve McManaman, Louis Saha and Dennis Wise to do the draw on Friday, which will take place in Vietnam.

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5b1e840f79f94/charltons-ball-number-confirmed-for-fridays-carabao-cup-draw

    I'm sure the eyes of the world will forget about the World Cup and concentrate on this far more important event
  • killerandflashkillerandflash
    Having said that, if we're drawn away to Villa, I quite fancy that!
  • RedroboRedrobo
    The early games should be played pre-season. At least teams could get fitter playing them and you might get a few more souls turning up.
  • JollyRobinJollyRobin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjI-qh37xf0

    They should take some ideas from this. Might make it worth watching.
  • guinnessaddickguinnessaddick
    Forest Green Rovers away would be ok, new ground for me.
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