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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)

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  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,622
    Amazed he still has on his Twitter that he is a professional footballer with Charlton Athletic - perhaps he should change it to ‘professional footballer actively looking for a new club’
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.

    Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?

    There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.

    Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.

    It's not football that's broken - it's society!
    Football IS different to most other businesses.
    It is unique.
    How often do you get 15,000 people turning up to watch you work?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Gough has always been a prize wanker disguised as a 'character'. Like some other people I could name. I mean, stop looking at me this is the Lyle Taylor thread
  • MStuartPerm
    MStuartPerm Posts: 611
    Won’t deny I am really disappointed With Taylor’s decision but like a number of others  not really surprised.

    He’s made up his mind and he has to live with that choice, I am sure he will and Should he change his mind And play for us even just for 3 games I will be shouting my support at the tv when he plays as I would with anyone lucky enough to wear the coveted Charlton shirt. 

    One of the main things that the Covid19 situation has highlighted about football is the total disrespect for the fans.

     Football is for the fans? If that was the case they wouldn’t play until we can attend games but as they can keep the majority of the armchair fans and the TV companies happy that’s more important.
    A presenter on TalkSPORT said well most football fans watch the games on TV and don’t go to games anyway. 
    People can disagree with me but football fans go to games, people that Watch on TV Follow football. I haven’t really missed it over the last two months Which has surprised me  but if and when the championship starts seeing us play at the Valley And not being Able To be there is going to be painful for myself and many other Valiant fans. 
    We need to get behind the who ever plays for us over the last 9 games and hope they can salvage this season. 


    I’ve had this conversation loads of times except I’ve always said your supporters go to games and fans watch you on tv.

    i agree with the principle of what you’re saying though 
    Yes, I have as well, got various ‘fans’ I work with and I have seen their teams more than them. They always have an excuse for not going, mainly can’t get to Anfield/ Old Trafford/Emirates etc
    You Support your local team was my Grandad and Dads mantra, I have done so since I was four or five, I keep asking myself And my brother why did it have to be Charlton and Kent! 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Amazed he still has on his Twitter that he is a professional footballer with Charlton Athletic - perhaps he should change it to ‘professional footballer actively looking for a new club’

    I think 'unprofessional footballer with Charlton Athletic' would be more apt.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    listen to Darren Gough talk about it, he said (and I quote) 'he's now got the chance to join a proper team'

    pr*ck 
    This coming from Darren Gough

    A Barnsley fan

    🤣🤣🤣
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    Valley11 said:
    Surprised he hasn’t said anything yet either formally or through social media. 
    Probably because he's looking like a right melt... The press and pundits are joining in and his decision is looking like the stupidist decision ever! If I was a fan of his 'new club' I'd be a little uncertain about his integrity!

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    msomerton said:
    I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.

    Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?

    There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.

    Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.

    It's not football that's broken - it's society!
    Absolutely agree with you, no one here would turn down a job that would secure their financial future ,for loyalty to their current employer let alone a basket case one,
    No one here has said that Taylor should turn down a job that would secure his financial future, for loyalty to their current employer.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    I just hope the fans at his new club don't start to worship him like we did. They will be in for a letdown.
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  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    edited June 2020
    It does make his lauded Zoom interview where he was all ‘honest John’ about Southall, and bleeding heart for fans, look a little like a getting in first PR move, knowing he was going to sit out the last month of his deal. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Spot on @glasshalffull
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    edited June 2020
    Taylor is a clever man, he knows how much football & Charlton means to people. Many of which have lost love ones and have been hit extremely hard financially by Coronavirus. To not even try to help the club avoid relegation whilst under contract is disgustingly selfish. In any normal season he would not able to stop playing to get his big money move, you would think with all that has gone on he would do the honourable thing, see the job through and try and leave on a high..... clearly any decency has gone!
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503
    So Solly cops a testimonial and then decides he's not available for the final set of games? Hmm.....
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Yeah its just as bad from Solly if its for the same reasons, sort of flown under the radar as its not as pivotal to our relegation scrap
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,441
    Scoham said:
    He's his own man as they say but he's getting a lot of negative press; think theere are articles in various media outlets
    Doesn’t matter as he knows that’ll make little difference to many of the clubs interested in signing him.
    Mccoist not impressed with his attitude; might take Rangers off the list. Maybe they won't want someone who will have that attitude with them sometime?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    CAFCTrev said:
    I just handed my notice at work, but Ive told them Im not going to work during my notice as I dont want to get sick or injured before I start my new job. 

    They still need to pay me though. 
    I'd like to thank you, you're a legend.
    Don't worry it's not you being a selfish prick, it's society.
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    Taylor's withdrawal of his labour ain't ever gonna sit well with us, despite the fact we'd none of us in our right mind jeopardise a life changing payday for any current or soon to be former employer.
    He's at least shown greater integrity than many might and made an honest, explicable decision.  It would be the easiest thing in the world to turn up for training, doss about, take it easy and if selected not try a leg in matches.  He'd get exactly the same heinous profane abuse from all the same heinous profane gobshites and keyboard onanists either way.  He could feign a muscle injury, turn up to training, grimace and yelp on the physio's table and sit out the next month.
    I've got money on there being shirkers and lead-swingers making up the numbers at Sparrows Lane and training grounds across the league.  Their gutless malfeasance will play out over the coming weeks.  The working human is a proven greedy robot after all.
    The horse has bolted now but with the likelihood of extra subs, if LB and LT had their time again I think there's a version they coulda gone for.  Thus: we're told "LT has a back/hamstring/groin thing that hasn't settled down, he deffo can't play 90 minutes but blah blah blah on the bench." 85th minute or later in a game where Charlton are within a goal of a point or all 3 near goal free-kick or better yet penalty, sub him on for his prowess - he's head'n'shoulders the best at both in the whole squad.  The season pans out how it pans out, LT maybe sidefoots in a goal, and everybody goes away none the wiser.  LT would still get the bullshit from the bully manbabies.
    Maybe his back is broad enough and his balls big enough to take the cowardly nonsense safe in the knowledge his salary from July onward will outstrip everything all those twats will earn in several lifetimes.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    The analogies relating Taylor's situation to a regular job are fairly redundant IMO. Taylor is getting upwards of £200k a year to play football where-as most of us regular people are earning a fraction of that (good for you if you're earning that!) All he has to do is work for one more month and be handsomely rewarded for it...
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2020
    I know what you mean. Make a controversial statement even if you don't believe it and argue with people. I can't listen to it because it is so contrived.

    I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested. 
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  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733
    Valley11 said:
    It does make his lauded Zoom interview where he was all ‘honest John’ about Southall, and bleeding heart for fans, look a little like a getting in first PR move, knowing he was going to sit out the last month of his deal. 
    Particularly how he was giving it the big one about how professional he was to keep playing after transfer fell through.  That hasn't aged well.

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Probably not the best time to give him stick but he's getting a lot of it in the comments on his insta Blackout Tuesday post.
    If he had any sense he would stay off social media but then again he'd miss the attention.
    Not today. 

    People responding on that post with club matters are bellends. 
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....

    .... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.

    When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.

    When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.

    The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.

    And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day?  I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.

    Hear hear, GHF!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid. 

    If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man. 
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,463
    Dazzler21 said:
    The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid. 

    If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man. 

    Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.

    At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
    .... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
    When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
    When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
    The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
    And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day?  I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
    Best post on the matter. 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    edited June 2020
    He has never shown any loyalty at any of his clubs. Just a greedy selfish man, like so many other footballers nowadays.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Dazzler21 said:
    The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid. 

    If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man. 

    Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.

    At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/01/three-charlton-players-including-lyle-taylor-unwilling-to-continue-season-lee-bowyer-injury

    "The 30-year-old has not trained with the club since last Tuesday and Bowyer admitted he twice failed in his efforts to change Taylor’s mind."
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested. 
    Sorry Muttley, I can't go along with that sort of monkey business.


  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    Dazzler21 said:
    The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid. 

    If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man. 

    Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.

    At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha

    Not a chance in hell mate.