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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)

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  • Integrity, the choice between what's convenient and what's right.


  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....

    .... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.

    When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.

    When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.

    The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.

    And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day?  I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.

    👏👏 ‘heart of a mouse’ indeed.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    interesting piece featuring Taylor and us in today's 'Times'  
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited June 2020
    I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.

    Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?

    There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.

    Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.

    It's not football that's broken - it's society!
    He could always have handed his notice in back when he realised the club was a basket case.  I mean you can't have it both ways - "This place is rubbish.  I'm not working here any more.  Where's my salary?"


  • What is football these days?

    Read in the papers your club captain 10 years support and devotion... Doesn't want to play? 

    Kinda kills it. 

    I cling to the hope it is just good management from Bowyer, controlling the media and the squad by being assertive.

    David Davis was another ESI robbery. I hear from Brum that he has not been up to any standard since last injury. He is League 2 without his physicality. Joke signing.

    I reckon Lyle will play that 1 game. To pull out is not professional, despite the circumstances everyone can understand. A Lion player would not pull out through fear of injury. It will adversely affect his game, big jessy. 

    Full marks Lee Bowyer. Trying to win 9 cup finals. Get rid of anyone that doesn't fancy it.

    Macauley Bonne is going to be huge. 

    Still a half decent side there. Hope dies last. 

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,627
    Lyle who.....?
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,023
    Oggy Red said:

    I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested. 
    Sorry Muttley, I can't go along with that sort of monkey business.


    Gibbon a bit of time, you might grow to like it.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,646
    He's got a stupid haircut anyway.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Lyle who.....?
    Taylor. There is a 121 page thread about him, the last 60 odd are about him refusing to play
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  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    Macauley Bonne all the way, he was scoring while Lyle was injured. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,034
    A players career is very short, one bad tackle can finish it.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    edited June 2020
    At least Mendonca is loved by us all 
    wonder what he’d do in the same situation as Lyle. 
    Tough norverner would play on I reckon 
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    It’s not up for debate. His refusal to play is a breach of his contract. He is contracted until the end of the month. He should be available for selection until then. He holds all the cards though. If he was forced to play he would put in minimal effort. Bowyer knows that and couldn’t pick him. I doubt the club will even bother to sanction him.

    If he was forced to play by some legality of some description I’d wager my house on him tweaking a hamstring within 5 minutes. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    T_C_E said:
    It’s not up for debate. His refusal to play is a breach of his contract. He is contracted until the end of the month. He should be available for selection until then. He holds all the cards though. If he was forced to play he would put in minimal effort. Bowyer knows that and couldn’t pick him. I doubt the club will even bother to sanction him.

    If he was forced to play by some legality of some description I’d wager my house on him tweaking a hamstring within 5 minutes. 
    Agreed. Don’t think it does the team any favours even if he changed his mind. Taylor is my favourite player by a county mile. But he has made his choice. Him and Solly can both do one - they are no longer Charlton players in my eyes. As for Davis - he has done us a massive favour. 
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    edited June 2020
    Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so. 
    A proven goalscorer worth between £5-£10m at current prices....for free.
    Potential suitors couldn’t give a stuff. 

    And we know he’s not a bad egg. All he did for Betty etc. He’s made a mistake with this ethically and PR wise but not for his bank balance. Still don’t like it. A mistake. 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    He should have gone in January.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    T_C_E said:
    It’s not up for debate. His refusal to play is a breach of his contract. He is contracted until the end of the month. He should be available for selection until then. He holds all the cards though. If he was forced to play he would put in minimal effort. Bowyer knows that and couldn’t pick him. I doubt the club will even bother to sanction him.

    If he was forced to play by some legality of some description I’d wager my house on him tweaking a hamstring within 5 minutes. 

    He cannot be forced to play - he has free choice. But equally he has to take responsibility for and the consequences of that choice.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    interesting piece featuring Taylor and us in today's 'Times'  
    This one? https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/top-scorer-refuses-to-help-charlton-survival-bid-in-case-of-injury-cdxl9mq92


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  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so. 
    Seen similar on Twitter. A lot of comments along the lines of ‘refusing to play for Charlton if the season resumes says a lot about his character. We don’t want him here’. A lot of fans of other clubs have certainly gone off of him.
  • Valley11 said:
    Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so. 
    A proven goalscorer worth between £5-£10m at current prices....for free.
    Potential suitors couldn’t give a stuff. 

    And we know he’s not a bad egg. All he did for Betty etc. He’s made a mistake with this ethically and PR wise but not for his bank balance. Still don’t like it. A mistake. 
    I don't have a lot of respect for him bailing out - best to forget about him. He's let the club and its fans down.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    He should have gone in January.
    TBH for all he played he might as well have gone in May 2019.
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    So you go for a job interview and they offer you three times your current salary.

    You accept the offer but they insist you start tomorrow or they'll find someone else.

    "Oh well, I can't accept - I must honour the month's notice required by my current employer."

    Go home and explain it to your family...….
  • MStuartPerm
    MStuartPerm Posts: 611
    Bookie on talkSPORT has the following odds for his new club

    brentford 15/8
    bournemouth 3/1
    Rangers 4/1 

    when they are a once in a lifetime opportunity  it shows how far we have fallen!!  
  • Clarky
    Clarky Posts: 582
    So you go for a job interview and they offer you three times your current salary.

    You accept the offer but they insist you start tomorrow or they'll find someone else.

    "Oh well, I can't accept - I must honour the month's notice required by my current employer."

    Go home and explain it to your family...….
    But in his case he cant start tomorrow he has a contract with us until 30 June. 
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 1,921
    edited June 2020
    So you go for a job interview and they offer you three times your current salary.

    You accept the offer but they insist you start tomorrow or they'll find someone else.

    "Oh well, I can't accept - I must honour the month's notice required by my current employer."

    Go home and explain it to your family...….
    Not sure that’s at all relevant to this situation. Given he can’t play for another club tomorrow  it is highly unlikely any suitor would lay that condition down. Bizarre comment to make.
  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 577
    Very disappointed about Lyle I thought he would stay to the end of his legal contract to Charlton Athletic.
    the Bullshit excuse about getting injured could go against him in the eyes of potential buyers as it could mean he injured easily and is now made of class?
    i also think he has let down a far bigger and better man then he will ever be...Lee Bowyer.
    a great Shane I thought he had more integrity,
    but he was a great championship striker and gave many of us pleasure when he played for Charlton.
    he is now history!!
  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 577

    Glass not class !