Take off the rose tinted glasses guys. The sad truth is that by any measure they are a club of higher stature than us. For those that are in any doubt, I give you Exhibit A.
Not arguing that, they aren’t as big as what they think they are. Slap bang average championship club (I would take that)
Forest are a much bigger club than us (christ they've won the European cup twice in my lifetime!) fallen on hard times in recent years (who hasn't) and may not be too much between us at the moment (other than a division), but let's not kid ourselves.
Take off the rose tinted glasses guys. The sad truth is that by any measure they are a club of higher stature than us. For those that are in any doubt, I give you Exhibit A.
Not arguing that, they aren’t as big as what they think they are. Slap bang average championship club (I would take that)
Forest are a much bigger club than us (christ they've won the European cup twice in my lifetime!) fallen on hard times in recent years (who hasn't) and may not be too much between us at the moment (other than a division), but let's not kid ourselves.
Me saying they are not a massive club is not me kidding myself. I said they are a slap bang average championship club (which I would take right now- again, not kidding myself).
they haven’t been in the premier league this century And we are in the third decade!
Wimbledon, Coventry and Wigan have all won the fa cup since the forest glory days of 40 years ago. Does that make them giants of English football.
Take off the rose tinted glasses guys. The sad truth is that by any measure they are a club of higher stature than us. For those that are in any doubt, I give you Exhibit A.
Give them our troubles and couple seasons in league one, see how big they are then....
Lol, that is the whole point, they have not had the trouble we have had and not spent as much time in League 1. They are a bigger club, end of.
Take off the rose tinted glasses guys. The sad truth is that by any measure they are a club of higher stature than us. For those that are in any doubt, I give you Exhibit A.
It is true. Forest are a far bigger club - even without the evidence of Exhibit A. Never mind rose-tinted, some folk on this forum have a psychedelically warped perspective.
The size of a football club changes over time. There was a time in charltons history when we won the F A Cup and finished 2nd in the top division. We also had the largest ground in the country and recorded some of the highest attendances. Does that make us a massive club now. Of course not. But by the same token Forest having success under Clough 40 odd years ago has no bearing on today either.
The size of a football club changes over time. There was a time in charltons history when we won the F A Cup and finished 2nd in the top division. We also had the largest ground in the country and recorded some of the highest attendances. Does that make us a massive club now. Of course not. But by the same token Forest having success under Clough 40 odd years ago has no bearing on today either.
Spot on. By the Forest fans' logic Sheffield Wednesday really are entitled to think they are a massive club. Won the league 4 times and FA Cup 3 times. Sadly for them all before 1936.
The size of a football club changes over time. There was a time in charltons history when we won the F A Cup and finished 2nd in the top division. We also had the largest ground in the country and recorded some of the highest attendances. Does that make us a massive club now. Of course not. But by the same token Forest having success under Clough 40 odd years ago has no bearing on today either.
Agree with you, mostly. What does have a bearing on relative 'size' of Forest and Charlton is the fact that we are in the third tier, and they missed the play-offs to the Prem on goal difference. The gulf is massive.
The size of a football club changes over time. There was a time in charltons history when we won the F A Cup and finished 2nd in the top division. We also had the largest ground in the country and recorded some of the highest attendances. Does that make us a massive club now. Of course not. But by the same token Forest having success under Clough 40 odd years ago has no bearing on today either.
Agree with you, mostly. What does have a bearing on relative 'size' of Forest and Charlton is the fact that we are in the third tier, and they missed the play-offs to the Prem on goal difference. The gulf is massive.
Yep at the moment I have to agree. But if we get new owners the fortunes of both clubs could easily be reversed. I actually think that if all 92 clubs were put into some kind of order of their size then both Forest and Charlton would be in the 2nd tier. So although Forest may be a bigger club it's not by that much.
The size of a football club changes over time. There was a time in charltons history when we won the F A Cup and finished 2nd in the top division. We also had the largest ground in the country and recorded some of the highest attendances. Does that make us a massive club now. Of course not. But by the same token Forest having success under Clough 40 odd years ago has no bearing on today either.
Agree with you, mostly. What does have a bearing on relative 'size' of Forest and Charlton is the fact that we are in the third tier, and they missed the play-offs to the Prem on goal difference. The gulf is massive.
Yep at the moment I have to agree. But if we get new owners the fortunes of both clubs could easily be reversed. I actually think that if all 92 clubs were put into some kind of order of their size then both Forest and Charlton would be in the 2nd tier. So although Forest may be a bigger club it's not by that much.
A lot of ifs and buts and wishful thinking in there, Blackpool! But I dig your optimism.
Who gives a bollox who is the bigger club...Taylor would do the exact same again, because he thinks he is bigger & better than the hand that feeds him...& of course us paying supporters...Fuck Him...!!!
The it wouldn’t happen because we’re a bigger club argument is nonsense. It’s happened in the premier league in recent years plenty of times. Payet (West Ham) and Suarez (Liverpool) two I can think of immediately. So apparently Forest are also bigger than those clubs too.
So I thought I would type his name into twitter to see if there were any rumours and I saw 2 forest fans arguing about him, this one made me laugh acting like forest are a massive club, I love when he says he wouldn't dare refuse to play for them 🤣🤣
In the 92 there are a handful of big clubs, there are maybe 20 “small” clubs and the rest are pretty much all the same and they’re support bases will rise and fall linked to performances on the pitch.
I think for so many reasons it is natural to assume that Josh isn’t a particularly bright boy.
Not so sure about that; greedy and disloyal are the main traits I'd attribute to him. I still can't help but think there may be more to this story though. It seems strange that we had two players refusing to play, when I'm not sure that anyone else had any. Then again, you know what they say about bad apples.
I just wonder what the trigger is for his and others moves to be confirmed. There is always a domino effect for a number of moves so what’s this one - outcome of the play off final or another transfer elsewhere ?
I just wonder what the trigger is for his and others moves to be confirmed. There is always a domino effect for a number of moves so what’s this one - outcome of the play off final or another transfer elsewhere ?
I suspect his big money move has fizzled out into a moderate money move and now he's scrambling. Perfect timing Lyle, free agency in the middle of an economic collapse.
Bournemouth coming down, and losing Wilson they might be interested
Unlikely as that's one of the myriad of clubs he's Taylor has previously failed at.
Lyle Taylor and Bournemouth, would be a good fit now. A Championship team for a Championship player; away from the grief, he is getting from fans who once adored him. From Lyle Taylor baby to Lyle Taylor piranha, who's new status is one of a pariah for the majority of Cafc fans.
Personally, I don't blame him for not playing from July 1st when he was out of contract and decided not to risk his future employment chances with the back story of the tragic comedic shakespean drama of skull duggery, with the Nimer/Southall charade unraveling.
Taylor not playing the 3 remaining games in June, when still under contract meant he had burnt his bridges and would be persona non Grata for time in memorial with the Charlton fan base which is not only sad for him but for us as well.
The parlous state of CAFC, has yet again caused a player to jump ship; the difference this time for both Taylor and Solly, I'm not sure the life boats were ready for them after the pandemic has and will cause a tsunami through the finances of EFL clubs.
Taylor to Bournemouth makes a lot of sense , Wilson and King won't stay . Leaves them with just Sam Surridge who was on loan at Swansea first half of the season so could see Lyle sliding in up top.
Had completely forgotten Solanke ha! Could actually be decent at championship level .
Wilson and King leave, and they bring in Taylor on a free, Grant for a fee, which would be half what they received for the over rated CB Ake(may not be with better players around him) to Man City and with Taylor's mentoring Solanke, he may become the player that played so many games for England at junior levels and which still haven't totally shown itself. Taylor, Solanke, Grant and one other would be a decent strike force in the 2nd tier.
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they haven’t been in the premier league this century And we are in the third decade!
There was a time in charltons history when we won the F A Cup and finished 2nd in the top division.
We also had the largest ground in the country and recorded some of the highest attendances.
Does that make us a massive club now.
Of course not.
But by the same token Forest having success under Clough 40 odd years ago has no bearing on today either.
Any fan of a club outside the Prem generally cares about their team.
But if we get new owners the fortunes of both clubs could easily be reversed.
I actually think that if all 92 clubs were put into some kind of order of their size then both Forest and Charlton would be in the 2nd tier.
So although Forest may be a bigger club it's not by that much.
I suspect his big money move has fizzled out into a moderate money move and now he's scrambling. Perfect timing Lyle, free agency in the middle of an economic collapse.
Lyle Taylor and Bournemouth, would be a good fit now. A Championship team for a Championship player; away from the grief, he is getting from fans who once adored him. From Lyle Taylor baby to Lyle Taylor piranha, who's new status is one of a pariah for the majority of Cafc fans.
Personally, I don't blame him for not playing from July 1st when he was out of contract and decided not to risk his future employment chances with the back story of the tragic comedic shakespean drama of skull duggery, with the Nimer/Southall charade unraveling.
Taylor not playing the 3 remaining games in June, when still under contract meant he had burnt his bridges and would be persona non Grata for time in memorial with the Charlton fan base which is not only sad for him but for us as well.
The parlous state of CAFC, has yet again caused a player to jump ship; the difference this time for both Taylor and Solly, I'm not sure the life boats were ready for them after the pandemic has and will cause a tsunami through the finances of EFL clubs.
Wilson and King leave, and they bring in Taylor on a free, Grant for a fee, which would be half what they received for the over rated CB Ake(may not be with better players around him) to Man City and with Taylor's mentoring Solanke, he may become the player that played so many games for England at junior levels and which still haven't totally shown itself.
Taylor, Solanke, Grant and one other would be a decent strike force in the 2nd tier.