It does seem to me that Lyle already has his new contract lined up.
He's just waiting until 1st July to sign it.
yup, i'm sure he has
I expect so. Will be even angrier if it is with a relegation rival. Can't he be done for breach of contract?
I'm not sure if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick from what you intend.......but he wouldn't be able to play again now until the start of next season surely??
It does seem to me that Lyle already has his new contract lined up.
He's just waiting until 1st July to sign it.
yup, i'm sure he has
I expect so. Will be even angrier if it is with a relegation rival. Can't he be done for breach of contract?
I'm not sure if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick from what you intend.......but he wouldn't be able to play again now until the start of next season surely??
Yeah he can move clubs after his contract expires but he can’t play for the new team until next season
It does seem to me that Lyle already has his new contract lined up.
He's just waiting until 1st July to sign it.
yup, i'm sure he has
I expect so. Will be even angrier if it is with a relegation rival. Can't he be done for breach of contract?
I'm not sure if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick from what you intend.......but he wouldn't be able to play again now until the start of next season surely??
No, he can't. I am saying he has reduced our overall capability and we could get relgated - he is therefore benefitting our relegation rivals.Let alone letting his team mates down. And not fulfilling his contract
I think have seen how much criticism Lyle has got from the wider football community and not just Charlton, if managers from other clubs haven't had the conversation yet like Monk when they do I dont think there will be many refusing to play lol.
I don't think anyone could have imagined how widespread the criticism for Taylor would become and ither players will have seen that and may think hmmm lets just play on lol(unless they alreay have a club lined up and even then they will probably at least see out there contract)
I think have seen how much criticism Lyle has got from the wider football community and not just Charlton, if managers from other clubs haven't had the conversation yet like Monk when they do I dont think there will be many refusing to play lol.
I don't think anyone could have imagined how widespread the criticism for Taylor would become and ither players will have seen that and may think hmmm lets just play on lol(unless they alreay have a club lined up and even then they will probably at least see out there contract)
It might be quite a different scenario for him IF he doesn't already have his next move already sorted.
If he thinks our opinions of him are racist, I cant wait to see him play for galatasary !
Has he said that?
He shared a video on Instagram last week where an ex player was saying our treatment of him was racist.
Who was the ex-player? I don't really want to get into the race situation but how do you determine when criticism of anyone is due to their behaviour, their race (or anything else) or a mixture? How can you legitimately criticise anyone without being accused of being various 'ist'?
I feel pretty much the same about Chris Solly's decision with 2 differences; 1) Solly is less likely to play and make a significant difference 2) Solly is likely to be going to a lower league club not a rival
If he thinks our opinions of him are racist, I cant wait to see him play for galatasary !
Has he said that?
He shared a video on Instagram last week where an ex player was saying our treatment of him was racist.
Who was the ex-player? I don't really want to get into the race situation but how do you determine when criticism of anyone is due to their behaviour, their race (or anything else) or a mixture? How can you legitimately criticise anyone without being accused of being various 'ist'?
I feel pretty much the same about Chris Solly's decision with 2 differences; 1) Solly is less likely to play and make a significant difference 2) Solly is likely to be going to a lower league club not a rival
It was Chris Dickson
He was basically saying that everyone is making a massive deal over Taylor and not mentioning Solly because of Taylors race.
When in fact its because Taylor is a first team regular and our top scorer and Solly hasnt even been in the 18 since the start of January, its got nothing to do with race
If he thinks our opinions of him are racist, I cant wait to see him play for galatasary !
Has he said that?
He shared a video on Instagram last week where an ex player was saying our treatment of him was racist.
Who was the ex-player? I don't really want to get into the race situation but how do you determine when criticism of anyone is due to their behaviour, their race (or anything else) or a mixture? How can you legitimately criticise anyone without being accused of being various 'ist'?
I feel pretty much the same about Chris Solly's decision with 2 differences; 1) Solly is less likely to play and make a significant difference 2) Solly is likely to be going to a lower league club not a rival
It was Chris Dickson
He was basically saying that everyone is making a massive deal over Taylor and not mentioning Solly because of Taylors race.
When in fact its because Taylor is a first team regular and our top scorer and Solly hasnt even been in the 18 since the start of January, its got nothing to do with race
Exactly! Unfortuately I see this sort of comment undermining a very real and key issue. It is like asking why Lampard and Gerard are in key management roles but Sol Campbell and Ashley Cole aren't (as some did)!
we've been to quite a few player of the season dinners over recent years, but I don't feel inclined to go again. You finish the evening thinking what a fine bunch of people the players are, and six months later 2 or 3 of them shaft the fans.
Footballers are not playing for the fans, they are playing for themselves, it's their job.
so you know every single player in the league and what motivates them do you
I take it you disagree with my post, or you are being pedantic.
Let us imagine, as I think is probable, that Taylor has been given the message by his potential new club not to play for us. He needs to look in the mirror and ask himself if it is a good move to go to a club which is willing to drag his name through the mud where his professionalism and loyalty to his team mates is questioned and this will be remembered. It isn't as if he wont have options and he could ensure his next club is a decent one. Look at Cullen. He isn't even a Charlton player and has committed himself to us for the remainder of the season.
I have seen some of Taylor’s other Insta stories since and he has received quite a bit of racist abuse from our ‘fans’. Absolutely disgusting really. He ‘outs’ them. Embarrassing.
Not siding with Taylor whatsoever, I am fuming with him but that’s really not on.
If Taylor is going to a Championship Club with the new regulations he may still play this season possibly even against us if its Brentford.
Fifa have announced 2 changes to transfer regulations.
1- a player can play for 3 teams instead of 2 in the same season.
2- if a league wishes to, they can open the transfer window before the end of the current season, now the Premier League have decided against that, but I haven't seen what the EFL have said regarding th Championship.
I have seen some of Taylor’s other Insta stories since and he has received quite a bit of racist abuse from our ‘fans’. Absolutely disgusting really. He ‘outs’ them. Embarrassing.
Not siding with Taylor whatsoever, I am fuming with him but that’s really not on.
I wasn't aware of this. I don't have instagram. If this is the case then that is shocking. And totally unnecessary. I thought the judgement from Dickson were just about generall criticism and not specific comments
Let us imagine, as I think is probable, that Taylor has been given the message by his potential new club not to play for us. He needs to look in the mirror and ask himself if it is a good move to go to a club which is willing to drag his name through the mud where his professionalism and loyalty to his team mates is questioned and this will be remembered. It isn't as if he wont have options and he could ensure his next club is a decent one. Look at Cullen. He isn't even a Charlton player and has committed himself to us for the remainder of the season.
Or his agent, Mutts, or his agent..it may well be that his agent will claim he was "asked" to do it by the other club, but if so he will have been all to ready to agree to do that, because his own big payout is at risk if Taylor got injured.
I agree, it would have been done by his agent but it would be on the behest of another club.
"OK Lee, (Matthews, his agent) we'll pay you £xxx,000 for delivering Lyle, but only if he comes match fit"
"Leave it to me, Jonathan, (or whoever it is) he'll be delivered, oven ready"
That sort of "behest" ?
That's about it. Just enough for everybody to know where they stand with no come back. All the shit falls on Taylor but he will get a nice contract. The thing is, when he signs for his new club, we will know who they are.
I agree, it would have been done by his agent but it would be on the behest of another club.
"OK Lee, (Matthews, his agent) we'll pay you £xxx,000 for delivering Lyle, but only if he comes match fit"
"Leave it to me, Jonathan, (or whoever it is) he'll be delivered, oven ready"
That sort of "behest" ?
That's about it. Just enough for everybody to know where they stand with no come back. All the shit falls on Taylor but he will get a nice contract. The thing is, when he signs for his new club, we will know who they are.
Indeed. I have some (virtual) money on Boro, because Woodgate is one of Lee Matthews' clients. Conflict of interest? Nah mate, it's a dog eat dog world, innit?
Let us imagine, as I think is probable, that Taylor has been given the message by his potential new club not to play for us. He needs to look in the mirror and ask himself if it is a good move to go to a club which is willing to drag his name through the mud where his professionalism and loyalty to his team mates is questioned and this will be remembered. It isn't as if he wont have options and he could ensure his next club is a decent one. Look at Cullen. He isn't even a Charlton player and has committed himself to us for the remainder of the season.
You can’t compare with Cullen . He’s a lot younger at the start not the end of his career . He’s got a contract at West Ham for another year and isn’t being offered 3 times his salary elsewhere having been pissed about with derisory offers . Yes Taylor’s actions are those of a selfish twunt but I can see where him and the Solly are coming from , I don’t like it and it’s filth but in ten years time when he’s drinking Bacardi breezers in Benidorm enjoying the high life without a mortgage he’ll have known he’s probably made the right life changing decision for his selfish self .
If I owned Charlton I’d have whacked in £100k or whatever it cost for a 2 month water tight insurance policy on Lyle and said give me your all and you’re covered for loss of earnings if it goes tits up but no we have fucking Terry fuckwit and co at the helm of our joke shop .
As far as Taylor is concerned he leaves us in credit. I understand why he has acted in the way he has. He is 30 and his career has been a lower league one. Its peak has so far been with us! He is running out of time to get a big pay day. And a club offering him that has instructed him subtly not to play (I am sure of that). If it was Boro it would make even more sense.
I do also believe Taylor will live to regret his decision. It may not be financially but his reputation will always be a little tarnished by this. His new club have hung him out to dry IMO. There will come a time when that will be important to him, even if it isn't now, as I am sure he is a very decent person.
I have seen some of Taylor’s other Insta stories since and he has received quite a bit of racist abuse from our ‘fans’. Absolutely disgusting really. He ‘outs’ them. Embarrassing.
Not siding with Taylor whatsoever, I am fuming with him but that’s really not on.
I wasn't aware of this. I don't have instagram. If this is the case then that is shocking. And totally unnecessary. I thought the judgement from Dickson were just about generall criticism and not specific comments
I've just read what Dickson said and there was no mention of the unacceptable racist comments to Taylor. Personally I think he is wrong to call it by comparing Taylor to Solly as not the same situation
If Taylor is going to a Championship Club with the new regulations he may still play this season possibly even against us if its Brentford.
Fifa have announced 2 changes to transfer regulations.
1- a player can play for 3 teams instead of 2 in the same season.
2- if a league wishes to, they can open the transfer window before the end of the current season, now the Premier League have decided against that, but I haven't seen what the EFL have said regarding th Championship.
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I don't think anyone could have imagined how widespread the criticism for Taylor would become and ither players will have seen that and may think hmmm lets just play on lol(unless they alreay have a club lined up and even then they will probably at least see out there contract)
I feel pretty much the same about Chris Solly's decision with 2 differences; 1) Solly is less likely to play and make a significant difference 2) Solly is likely to be going to a lower league club not a rival
He was basically saying that everyone is making a massive deal over Taylor and not mentioning Solly because of Taylors race.
When in fact its because Taylor is a first team regular and our top scorer and Solly hasnt even been in the 18 since the start of January, its got nothing to do with race
Fifa have announced 2 changes to transfer regulations.
1- a player can play for 3 teams instead of 2 in the same season.
2- if a league wishes to, they can open the transfer window before the end of the current season, now the Premier League have decided against that, but I haven't seen what the EFL have said regarding th Championship.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12004878/fifa-allows-transfer-windows-to-open-before-season-ends-but-fa-is-discussing-august-october
"Leave it to me, Jonathan, (or whoever it is) he'll be delivered, oven ready"
That sort of "behest" ?
He’s a lot younger at the start not the end of his career .
He’s got a contract at West Ham for another year and isn’t being offered 3 times his salary elsewhere having been pissed about with derisory offers .
Yes Taylor’s actions are those of a selfish twunt but I can see where him and the Solly are coming from , I don’t like it and it’s filth but in ten years time when he’s drinking Bacardi breezers in Benidorm enjoying the high life without a mortgage he’ll have known he’s probably made the right life changing decision for his selfish self .
If I owned Charlton I’d have whacked in £100k or whatever it cost for a 2 month water tight insurance policy on Lyle and said give me your all and you’re covered for loss of earnings if it goes tits up but no we have fucking Terry fuckwit and co at the helm of our joke shop .
I do also believe Taylor will live to regret his decision. It may not be financially but his reputation will always be a little tarnished by this. His new club have hung him out to dry IMO. There will come a time when that will be important to him, even if it isn't now, as I am sure he is a very decent person.
What a joke!