Lyle is a good striker at this level and I expect him to continue to do well in what is an average side
I think he could do a job in the top division too. I suspect/hope his refusal to play for us raised enough character concerns to kill that opportunity for him.
I thought that too. Glenn Murray the template. Hard work, shrewd positional sense, always able to last the whole game.
Of course he has the right not to kneel and it shouldn’t even be questioned. I’d just question whether the kneeling has anything to do with the Black Lives Matter movement. Couldn’t it just be seen as a collective gesture in the fight against racism?
I also wish he’d be more specific when he says this:
"I would request anyone looks into Black Lives Matter to look into what that organisation does and what they stand for because it's scandalous that the world and the world's media has got behind Black Lives Matter.”
why is it scandalous? What have they done or said that’s so bad that you would say this in the media? Maybe lazy journalism, but it’s done him no favours. Makes him sound a bit daft.
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
Of course he has the right not to kneel and it shouldn’t even be questioned. I’d just question whether the kneeling has anything to do with the Black Lives Matter movement. Couldn’t it just be seen as a collective gesture in the fight against racism?
I also wish he’d be more specific when he says this:
"I would request anyone looks into Black Lives Matter to look into what that organisation does and what they stand for because it's scandalous that the world and the world's media has got behind Black Lives Matter.”
why is it scandalous? What have they done or said that’s so bad that you would say this in the media? Maybe lazy journalism, but it’s done him no favours. Makes him sound a bit daft.
Of course he has the right not to kneel and it shouldn’t even be questioned. I’d just question whether the kneeling has anything to do with the Black Lives Matter movement. Couldn’t it just be seen as a collective gesture in the fight against racism?
I also wish he’d be more specific when he says this:
"I would request anyone looks into Black Lives Matter to look into what that organisation does and what they stand for because it's scandalous that the world and the world's media has got behind Black Lives Matter.”
why is it scandalous? What have they done or said that’s so bad that you would say this in the media? Maybe lazy journalism, but it’s done him no favours. Makes him sound a bit daft.
No, you are a bit daft! The BLM movement stand for being Superior and not for racial equality. This is exactly the point Taylor is making! We can all do our bit; black or white for a more harmonious world but BLM are not that!
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit thouh
'He's going on about' that it's all staged or at least allowed! You really think it's so easy for a few 'Rednecks' to storm the senate, one of the most security secure places in the world?
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
He's got very unpopular political beliefs though doesnt he... Certainly wasnt popular with our fanbase with his comments on the subject a lot of the time - On a side note I was very surprised there was no kneeling on Friday night during our game?
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
He's got very unpopular political beliefs though doesnt he... Certainly wasnt popular with our fanbase with his comments on the subject a lot of the time - On a side note I was very surprised there was no kneeling on Friday night during our game?
Further more the people behind BLM are not even black! It's the same as back in the day when the Nativity play was cancelled because it might offend the Muslims or seeks... The so called minority then say I have no issue with celebrating british customs at school!
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
He's got very unpopular political beliefs though doesnt he... Certainly wasnt popular with our fanbase with his comments on the subject a lot of the time - On a side note I was very surprised there was no kneeling on Friday night during our game?
Why didnt SKY pick up on that one...
We've hardly kneeled at all this season.
I thought the two clubs would make a point of doing it though what with it being on television
Unless its something that has been agreed down here that teams wont bother
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
Further more the people behind BLM are not even black! It's the same as back in the day when the Nativity play was cancelled because it might offend the Muslims or seeks... The so called minority then say I have no issue with celebrating british customs at school!
Sikhs.....and I’ve yet to meet any Sikh that is offended by any British custom or culture, quite the opposite, don’t believe the media hype
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
Fun fact! If all your ideas and knowledge come from consuming the main stream media, you really do not know what is happing in the world. Do some research; consume content from alternative sources do not be fed a lie that comes from the same source #bbc #cnn #sky #inform your self!
Of course he has the right not to kneel and it shouldn’t even be questioned. I’d just question whether the kneeling has anything to do with the Black Lives Matter movement. Couldn’t it just be seen as a collective gesture in the fight against racism?
I also wish he’d be more specific when he says this:
"I would request anyone looks into Black Lives Matter to look into what that organisation does and what they stand for because it's scandalous that the world and the world's media has got behind Black Lives Matter.”
why is it scandalous? What have they done or said that’s so bad that you would say this in the media? Maybe lazy journalism, but it’s done him no favours. Makes him sound a bit daft.
No, you are a bit daft! The BLM movement stand for being Superior and not for racial equality. This is exactly the point Taylor is making! We can all do our bit; black or white for a more harmonious world but BLM are not that!
Well you seem like a learned chap. But you've just done exactly what Taylor's done and haven't backed up your opinion with reasons, examples etc. You've proved my point really. Throw in the name calling and you just sound a bit like a knuckle-dragging Daily Mail reader. I'm sure you're not, but like Taylor, that's what you sound like by not qualifying your position at all.
Of course he has the right not to kneel and it shouldn’t even be questioned. I’d just question whether the kneeling has anything to do with the Black Lives Matter movement. Couldn’t it just be seen as a collective gesture in the fight against racism?
I also wish he’d be more specific when he says this:
"I would request anyone looks into Black Lives Matter to look into what that organisation does and what they stand for because it's scandalous that the world and the world's media has got behind Black Lives Matter.”
why is it scandalous? What have they done or said that’s so bad that you would say this in the media? Maybe lazy journalism, but it’s done him no favours. Makes him sound a bit daft.
Further more the people behind BLM are not even black! It's the same as back in the day when the Nativity play was cancelled because it might offend the Muslims or seeks... The so called minority then say I have no issue with celebrating british customs at school!
Sikhs.....and I’ve yet to meet any Sikh that is offended by any British custom or culture, quite the opposite, don’t believe the media hype
Bad spell check! Sorry if I offended any sikh people. Your point is exactly my point.
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
Fun fact! If all your ideas and knowledge come from consuming the main stream media, you really do not know what is happing in the world. Do some research; consume content from alternative sources do not be fed a lie that comes from the same source #bbc #cnn #sky #inform your self!
No-one mentioned the BBC, CNN or Sky before you did. If you truly believe that these mainstream news sources have a bias to them, sure go ahead and believe it but the point I'm making is don't turn around and tell me that PatriotNews911 on YouTube who says BLM is a communist conspiracy is a more reliable source.
If anyone wants to "do their own research" then they should do it properly - read some peer reviewed papers from experts etc. Unfortunately most people who use the "I do my own research" phrase nowadays have just watched a few videos on YouTube, liked a post on Facebook and believe they're an expert.
I have never got the whole diluted message thing, seems a bit of a cop out. Whenever a game is on Sky and players kneel the message couldn't be much more simple when they kneel, "in the fight against racism". It's pretty simple.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
He's got very unpopular political beliefs though doesnt he... Certainly wasnt popular with our fanbase with his comments on the subject a lot of the time - On a side note I was very surprised there was no kneeling on Friday night during our game?
Further more the people behind BLM are not even black! It's the same as back in the day when the Nativity play was cancelled because it might offend the Muslims or seeks... The so called minority then say I have no issue with celebrating british customs at school!
Is this the Lyle Taylor thread, or the things-that-never-happened thread?
Further more the people behind BLM are not even black! It's the same as back in the day when the Nativity play was cancelled because it might offend the Muslims or seeks... The so called minority then say I have no issue with celebrating british customs at school!
Sikhs.....and I’ve yet to meet any Sikh that is offended by any British custom or culture, quite the opposite, don’t believe the media hype
Bad spell check! Sorry if I offended any sikh people. Your point is exactly my point.
It really isn’t, the media hype any sniff of a story to suit an agenda, left & right. No nativities have been banned because any Muslim or Sikh found it offensive, I find chucking gay people off of high buildings and forced marriage of children offensive, but it’s not going to stop certain crackpots doing it anytime soon
Further more the people behind BLM are not even black! It's the same as back in the day when the Nativity play was cancelled because it might offend the Muslims or seeks... The so called minority then say I have no issue with celebrating british customs at school!
Sikhs.....and I’ve yet to meet any Sikh that is offended by any British custom or culture, quite the opposite, don’t believe the media hype
Bad spell check! Sorry if I offended any sikh people. Your point is exactly my point.
It really isn’t, the media hype any sniff of a story to suit an agenda, left & right. No nativities have been banned because any Muslim or Sikh found it offensive, I find chucking gay people off of high buildings and forced marriage of children offensive, but it’s not going to stop certain crackpots doing it anytime soon
Yes you are right but they have been banned in the past especially at Stillness primary school - Brockley as far back as 1986! And of course nobody from the Muslim or any other community has asked for this!
As a black man I find the BLM movement offensive as it seems Lyle does too. So many things could make a change in the world but going down on one knee before a game is not one of them.
It's funny how people were happy to continue with the thread when things were not appearing to go so well but now that Lyle has scored a few goals and the Forest fans are warming to him, the thread should be closed.
Been saying it for a while mate. Its a bit sad this thread
As a black man I find the BLM movement offensive as it seems Lyle does too. So many things could make a change in the world but going down on one knee before a game is not one of them.
I was gonna say someone be along in a minute to tell us we are all ‘whitesplaining’ but you’ve put that to bed 😂.
It's funny how people were happy to continue with the thread when things were not appearing to go so well but now that Lyle has scored a few goals and the Forest fans are warming to him, the thread should be closed.
Been saying it for a while mate. Its a bit sad this thread
Why open it, read the comments and post on it then?
There are loads of threads I find uninteresting on here but I simply ignore them.
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I also wish he’d be more specific when he says this:
"I would request anyone looks into Black Lives Matter to look into what that organisation does and what they stand for because it's scandalous that the world and the world's media has got behind Black Lives Matter.”
why is it scandalous? What have they done or said that’s so bad that you would say this in the media? Maybe lazy journalism, but it’s done him no favours. Makes him sound a bit daft.
But yeah if he doesn't want to kneel, no one is making him
"You see what is happening - I'm not going into my beliefs into what went on in the Capitol building (referencing the attack on America's congress) this week because I've done my fair amount of research into it."
Absolutely no idea what he's on about with that bit though
'He's going on about' that it's all staged or at least allowed! You really think it's so easy for a few 'Rednecks' to storm the senate, one of the most security
secure places in the world?
Why didnt SKY pick up on that one...
Unless its something that has been agreed down here that teams wont bother
If anyone wants to "do their own research" then they should do it properly - read some peer reviewed papers from experts etc. Unfortunately most people who use the "I do my own research" phrase nowadays have just watched a few videos on YouTube, liked a post on Facebook and believe they're an expert.
Appreciate his approach and reasoning.
No nativities have been banned because any Muslim or Sikh found it offensive, I find chucking gay people off of high buildings and forced marriage of children offensive, but it’s not going to stop certain crackpots doing it anytime soon
There are loads of threads I find uninteresting on here but I simply ignore them.