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Lyle Taylor - signed for Colchester (p284)

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  • He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
  • I just see him as a product of the modern day game, and the greed that exists within the game.
    If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer. 
    Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.

    It matters to us the fans, but not them.

    Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
    And yet for all the gnashing of teeth when he arrived, if Jackson re-signed Taylor and he scored the goals that got us promoted the fans would forget all about what Lyle did before. Success beats out all manner of behaviours.
    There is an endless list of players who have done bad things, much worse than what Taylor did however they all get forgiven and end up playing week in week out whilst being applauded.  
  • He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
  • I just see him as a product of the modern day game, and the greed that exists within the game.
    If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer. 
    Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.

    It matters to us the fans, but not them.

    Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
    And yet for all the gnashing of teeth when he arrived, if Jackson re-signed Taylor and he scored the goals that got us promoted the fans would forget all about what Lyle did before. Success beats out all manner of behaviours.
    Indeed. Just as we welcomed back Killer and Flash all those years ago.
    How long did Flanny go on strike for? 
    All was forgotten when they came back and started scoring again!
  • He was decent for us but I feel over hyped.  Max open play goals in L1 in a season is something like 14 (once you strip out penalties).  It's not that great.
  • He was decent for us but I feel over hyped.  Max open play goals in L1 in a season is something like 14 (once you strip out penalties).  It's not that great.
    Didn't really matter that he wasn't available for those final games then?
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  • His name come up chatting to a mate tonight. 

    Tell you what, I loved watching him play for us. Im sure he’ll look back and see it as the best form of his career. Sad how it ended but my ire has softened and I’d probably give him a clap if we crossed paths again now. There was clearly all sorts going on behind the scenes at the time.

    He thrived on being our main man, and in a rarity of the last 15 years, actually delivered. 

    I like Stockley and I like Washington, but they are well below what we had with Taylor. 
    100% this. 
  • I was having a coffee in the cafe this morning, reading the paper, minding my own business. 

    Casually I turned the page, only to be confronted with this giant ugly image.  "Oh f**k off", I muttered under my breath, except it carried a bit further than I'd anticipated.  A couple of the regulars looked over.  They probably think of me as the tourettes guy now.  :/


  • He was decent for us but I feel over hyped.  Max open play goals in L1 in a season is something like 14 (once you strip out penalties).  It's not that great.
    Didn't really matter that he wasn't available for those final games then?
    Odd comment. I said he was over hyped.  Of course it mattered in the final games as he left us with a strike force of Andre Green, Hemed, Davison, Bonne and an injured Aneke.  Against that lot an over hyped Taylor looked like Lionel Messi.
  • His name come up chatting to a mate tonight. 

    Tell you what, I loved watching him play for us. Im sure he’ll look back and see it as the best form of his career. Sad how it ended but my ire has softened and I’d probably give him a clap if we crossed paths again now. There was clearly all sorts going on behind the scenes at the time.

    He thrived on being our main man, and in a rarity of the last 15 years, actually delivered. 

    I like Stockley and I like Washington, but they are well below what we had with Taylor. 
    Whether him playing on would've kept us up or not, hard to see us staying up the following season with all the shenanigans that went on after he left. I think his decision makes a bit more sense in that context, but I can't pretend I didn't feel hugely let down at the time.

    But, yeah, I choose to focus on the good times because he was great for us until that moment and really enjoyable to watch play. And life's too short to carry hate around with you.


  • He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
    He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.

    still unforgivable and always will be
    What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games.
    I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
    It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
  • He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
    He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.

    still unforgivable and always will be
    What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games.
    I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
    It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
    Garbage. Yes he should have been offered a new deal. But to refuse to play when we desperately needed arguably our best player and talisman is unforgivable. He was contracted and fit. Refusing to play was inexcusable and to bang on about needing to feel loved now, a veiled dig at cafc fans, shows what kind of person he is. Hopefully he retires soon so we can stop talking about him. 
  • Valley11 said:
    He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
    He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.

    still unforgivable and always will be
    What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games.
    I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
    It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
    Garbage. Yes he should have been offered a new deal. But to refuse to play when we desperately needed arguably our best player and talisman is unforgivable. He was contracted and fit. Refusing to play was inexcusable and to bang on about needing to feel loved now, a veiled dig at cafc fans, shows what kind of person he is. Hopefully he retires soon so we can stop talking about him. 
    Couldn't agree less.
    Him talking about needing to feel loved now has nothing to do with cafc fans and all to do with his situation at Forest. Too many seem to think that the world revolves around SE7, it doesn't.
    He was contracted until 30 June, so could have affected one result. If he had got injured, possibly badly and was then out of contract, do you think that the clowns that were running the club at that time would have looked after him?
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  • JiMMy 85 said:
    Valley11 said:
    He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
    He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.

    still unforgivable and always will be
    What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games.
    I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
    It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
    Garbage. Yes he should have been offered a new deal. But to refuse to play when we desperately needed arguably our best player and talisman is unforgivable. He was contracted and fit. Refusing to play was inexcusable and to bang on about needing to feel loved now, a veiled dig at cafc fans, shows what kind of person he is. Hopefully he retires soon so we can stop talking about him. 
    Couldn't agree less.
    Him talking about needing to feel loved now has nothing to do with cafc fans and all to do with his situation at Forest. Too many seem to think that the world revolves around SE7, it doesn't.
    He was contracted until 30 June, so could have affected one result. If he had got injured, possibly badly and was then out of contract, do you think that the clowns that were running the club at that time would have looked after him?

    I don't really get why there was so much talk about him getting a career-ending injury if he played in that one game. As if it was inevitable. Presumably he wasn't refusing to walk up stairs or cross the road. 

    Plenty of players don't refuse to play games when coming to the end of their contracts. He wasn't exactly the first player ever to run down a contract - what about every other player who has and continued to play anyway - were they being utter maniacs for 'risking' their future in the game? 
    100% this. 
  • edited April 2022
    Valley11 said:
    He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
    He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.

    still unforgivable and always will be
    What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games.
    I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
    It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
    Garbage. Yes he should have been offered a new deal. But to refuse to play when we desperately needed arguably our best player and talisman is unforgivable. He was contracted and fit. Refusing to play was inexcusable and to bang on about needing to feel loved now, a veiled dig at cafc fans, shows what kind of person he is. Hopefully he retires soon so we can stop talking about him. 
    Couldn't agree less.
    Him talking about needing to feel loved now has nothing to do with cafc fans and all to do with his situation at Forest. Too many seem to think that the world revolves around SE7, it doesn't.
    He was contracted until 30 June, so could have affected one result. If he had got injured, possibly badly and was then out of contract, do you think that the clowns that were running the club at that time would have looked after him?
    We’ll agree to disagree then. 

    It’s not just the potential influence Taylor could’ve had on the pitch by playing in that Championship run-in, it’s the signal his downing tools sent out to the rest of the squad. The bloke gave up on his mates. 

    I don’t think the world revolves around Charlton. But they are the club I support so I’m bound to have an opinion. And no manner of revisionism can change the fact that Taylor did the dirty on us.  Would other talismanic  players from our past have done the same? Mark Kinsella not playing in the Play Off Final, perhaps, for fear of injury. As has been suggested, a Premier League club was in for him had we not beaten Sunderland. He ‘risked’ playing to get us promoted. 

    As I said, I hope Taylor packs in soon so his self promotion and narcissism doesn’t have a platform. 

  • Valley11 said:
    Valley11 said:
    He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens. 
    Twat 
    4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
    He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.

    still unforgivable and always will be
    What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games.
    I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
    It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
    Garbage. Yes he should have been offered a new deal. But to refuse to play when we desperately needed arguably our best player and talisman is unforgivable. He was contracted and fit. Refusing to play was inexcusable and to bang on about needing to feel loved now, a veiled dig at cafc fans, shows what kind of person he is. Hopefully he retires soon so we can stop talking about him. 
    Couldn't agree less.
    Him talking about needing to feel loved now has nothing to do with cafc fans and all to do with his situation at Forest. Too many seem to think that the world revolves around SE7, it doesn't.
    He was contracted until 30 June, so could have affected one result. If he had got injured, possibly badly and was then out of contract, do you think that the clowns that were running the club at that time would have looked after him?
    We’ll agree to disagree then. 

    It’s not just the potential influence Taylor could’ve had on the pitch by playing in that Championship run-in, it’s the signal his downing tools sent out to the rest of the squad. The bloke gave up on his mates. 

    I don’t think the world revolves around Charlton. But they are the club I support so I’m bound to have an opinion. And no manner of revisionism can change the fact that Taylor did the dirty on us.  Would other talismanic  players from our past have done the same? Mark Kinsella not playing in the Play Off Final, perhaps, for fear of injury. As has been suggested, a Premier League club was in for him had we not beaten Sunderland. He ‘risked’ playing to get us promoted. 

    As I said, I hope Taylor packs in soon so his self promotion and narcissism doesn’t have a platform. 

    Fair enough.
    I was also gutted that he chose not to play on, but it was no ordinary season so cannot be compared to any other situation.
    I just don't understand the hatred and bile directed towards any player that chooses to walk away from Charlton, Taylor and Parker included.
    We, as supporters, might not like it but footballers are doing a job for money, not for the love of a club.
    The remaining squad of the 2019/20 season had more than enough to stay up, especially after achieving wins in the first two games after the re-start. We managed without Taylor in those two games, so there was no reason for us not to be able to do so in the remaining games. For some unknown reason the team bottled it when it mattered most, starting with the Millwall match. The rest is history.
  • So will he be in with the AFC Dons home fans tomorrow night cheering them on? Wouldn’t surprise me.
  • I really hate what he done to us, however if the opportunity ever came i wouldn't hate resigning him. Yes he is a shit-house, but at least he would be ours. 

    Not saying he deserves it, but just if he can replicate the form he had i am sure all will be forgotten very swiftly.  

    I know it wont ever happen, so we can continue to hate the bar steward :expressionless:
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