I wish they'd acknowledged that Charlton were subsequently relegated at the end of that interview
….yes, something from him like “I will always be sad that, ultimately, Charlton didn’t manage to stay in the Championship” would at least show some sense that (a) he cared and (b) he acknowledged his decision impacted so many others negatively. The fact that those words weren’t said says everything about his mindset, morals and attitude. Such a shame that it ended that way as there’s no getting away from the fact that the was probably the best striker we have had since, probably, Yann.
I think he was prolly on a big whack of £20k a week at Forest and obviously no on is paying anywhere near that . I’m sure if he accepted £7.5k a week there’d be a few takers , football doesn’t give a fcuk re anyone’s morals if they’re decent look at the drink drivers , alleged rapists , the Marcus Maddison’s , they all got taken on . If the price is right he’ll be there , problem is he has to battle with his ego to take a big cut .
What he doesn’t say is that he was offered a new contract at Charlton that would have been about half of what he got at NF. So if he did get injured he wasn’t going to be club less or skint. 1 point more in them last 6 games would have kept us up - can’t forgive or forget that - shame as he is just the type of striker we could use this season
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
I'm not sure how many times we can all have the same debate, but for what it's worth:
Hundreds of other players were out of contract at the end of that season and didn't do the same. Even just for us - Sarr, Lockyer are two off the top of my head.
He could have played, left at the end of the season and got the same contract anyway. He uses fear of injury as the excuse, but hundreds of footballers play every year despite being at the end of their contracts and hoping to get a contract/move the next season. Again, Sarr, Lockyer - stayed, played, got a move anyway.
If every player acted like Lyle Taylor did, we'd have any players looking to leave on a free downing tools before the end of a season.
I think he was prolly on a big whack of £20k a week at Forest and obviously no on is paying anywhere near that . I’m sure if he accepted £7.5k a week there’d be a few takers , football doesn’t give a fcuk re anyone’s morals if they’re decent look at the drink drivers , alleged rapists , the Marcus Maddison’s , they all got taken on . If the price is right he’ll be there , problem is he has to battle with his ego to take a big cut .
I am tended to agree, if you are good then football forgives. I think the big difference with Taylor is he bottled a fight and whilst characters like Lee Hughes, Marlon King and Joey Barton got second chances and in Bartons case about 20 chances but you absolutely cannot accuse any of them of being bottlers, the managers who took them on after they got released knew they were getting players who would turn up and perform, with Taylor you'd always be questioning him when the week before a 6 pointer if he was mincing about clutching his thigh or holding his back because it isn't in question, he has chosen to pussy out of a fight before and that will never leave him
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
I'm not sure how many times we can all have the same debate, but for what it's worth:
Hundreds of other players were out of contract at the end of that season and didn't do the same. Even just for us - Sarr, Lockyer are two off the top of my head.
He could have played, left at the end of the season and got the same contract anyway. He uses fear of injury as the excuse, but hundreds of footballers play every year despite being at the end of their contracts and hoping to get a contract/move the next season. Again, Sarr, Lockyer - stayed, played, got a move anyway.
If every player acted like Lyle Taylor did, we'd have any players looking to leave on a free downing tools before the end of a season.
Absolutely, someone told me once its like a golfer refusing to play the back nine in case they lose a golf ball, its that much of a non-issue.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
There’s also another counterfactual that might have played out.
What if Taylor played those eight games and scored let’s say six goals? Suddenly he ends the season having saved a fairly poor team from relegation, he’s the form goal scorer in the division and he’s caught a lot of attention just before the summer transfer window opens.
Seems certain a Premier League team comes in for him that summer as a no brainer free transfer gamble, potentially offering him £40k+ a week and makes him a default starter in the top division.
If he’d backed himself he might have earned more than double what he picked up and also played in the top flight.
Instead he settled for his career fizzling out in the championship, couldn’t be bothered to go out on loan somewhere when not picked in Forest’s premier league squad and now has no takers. I have a feeling he’s holding out for Sheffield United getting desperate and taking him on a free but no one wants a waster. He’s exposed himself not just at Charlton but by his behaviour last season. The guy has no hunger.
There’s also another counterfactual that might have played out.
What if Taylor played those eight games and scored let’s say six goals? Suddenly he ends the season having saved a fairly poor team from relegation, he’s the form goal scorer in the division and he’s caught a lot of attention just before the summer transfer window opens.
Seems certain a Premier League team comes in for him that summer as a no brainer free transfer gamble, potentially offering him £40k+ a week and makes him a default starter in the top division.
If he’d backed himself he might have earned more than double what he picked up and also played in the top flight.
Instead he settled for his career fizzling out in the championship, couldn’t be bothered to go out on loan somewhere when not picked in Forest’s premier league squad and now has no takers. I have a feeling he’s holding out for Sheffield United getting desperate and taking him on a free but no one wants a waster. He’s exposed himself not just at Charlton but by his behaviour last season. The guy has no hunger.
And if I was a club interested in him, I'd have worried how bad the injury was that he didn't want to risk playing any football.
In work so can't listen to the clip and I know I'll forget to watch it later - What does Bowyer say about the whole thing? Without the creative license on what he said please haha,
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
He only needed to play against Cardiff and he'd have increased our chance of winning.
What he doesn’t say is that he was offered a new contract at Charlton that would have been about half of what he got at NF. So if he did get injured he wasn’t going to be club less or skint. 1 point more in them last 6 games would have kept us up - can’t forgive or forget that - shame as he is just the type of striker we could use this season
He had said on a previous interview ESI halved a contract offer he was given prior to peanut head 'taking over'. Whatever people may think of Taylor, he knew of the geezer from the past and has a very low opinion of him.
In work so can't listen to the clip and I know I'll forget to watch it later - What does Bowyer say about the whole thing? Without the creative license on what he said please haha,
Given that he later signed him for Brum, you can probably guess what he said.
On the face of it that all seems reasonable from what Taylor says. However he is not giving the full story. He was under contract at the time so really was obliged to play. He also had conducted his career by letting contracts run down and moving on without a fee to increase his own wages signing on fee and taking the risk of an injury at the wrong time. Add to that the fact that he injured himself playing in an international on a possibly sub standard pitch and all the evidence still points to him being a c*nt
Also he mentions 2 players he spoke to. 1 (Solly) also refused to play. Shows the type of company he keeps.
The other one was Jason Pearce though , not quite the same narrative with him.
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
I'm not sure how many times we can all have the same debate, but for what it's worth:
Hundreds of other players were out of contract at the end of that season and didn't do the same. Even just for us - Sarr, Lockyer are two off the top of my head.
He could have played, left at the end of the season and got the same contract anyway. He uses fear of injury as the excuse, but hundreds of footballers play every year despite being at the end of their contracts and hoping to get a contract/move the next season. Again, Sarr, Lockyer - stayed, played, got a move anyway.
If every player acted like Lyle Taylor did, we'd have any players looking to leave on a free downing tools before the end of a season.
He's a disgrace of an individual and full of bullshit. Thankfully not everyone is like him.
Expect to be in a minority but I’d love to see him back. I don’t think he’d have a negative affect on the dressing room, quite the opposite.
Hated him at the time… now I half respect his honesty.
Nah, f**k him.
Not only is it like going back to a cheating ex when you should move on and find someone who is less of a twat, he's also 33 and hasn't played in a year, no guarantees we'd be getting the same quality of player we had last time.
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
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I’m sure if he accepted £7.5k a week there’d be a few takers , football doesn’t give a fcuk re anyone’s morals if they’re decent
look at the drink drivers , alleged rapists , the Marcus Maddison’s , they all got taken on .
If the price is right he’ll be there , problem is he has to battle with his ego to take a big cut .
Hundreds of other players were out of contract at the end of that season and didn't do the same. Even just for us - Sarr, Lockyer are two off the top of my head.
He could have played, left at the end of the season and got the same contract anyway. He uses fear of injury as the excuse, but hundreds of footballers play every year despite being at the end of their contracts and hoping to get a contract/move the next season. Again, Sarr, Lockyer - stayed, played, got a move anyway.
If every player acted like Lyle Taylor did, we'd have any players looking to leave on a free downing tools before the end of a season.
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
What if Taylor played those eight games and scored let’s say six goals? Suddenly he ends the season having saved a fairly poor team from relegation, he’s the form goal scorer in the division and he’s caught a lot of attention just before the summer transfer window opens.
Seems certain a Premier League team comes in for him that summer as a no brainer free transfer gamble, potentially offering him £40k+ a week and makes him a default starter in the top division.
And if I was a club interested in him, I'd have worried how bad the injury was that he didn't want to risk playing any football.
Instead we had Chuks and Andre Green starting...
Whatever people may think of Taylor, he knew of the geezer from the past and has a very low opinion of him.
Not only is it like going back to a cheating ex when you should move on and find someone who is less of a twat, he's also 33 and hasn't played in a year, no guarantees we'd be getting the same quality of player we had last time.