What would happen if our team gave him a 12 month contract, hypothetically thinking would we forgive him if he got us 20 goals and promotion, would the fans suddenly stop going?
What he did was morally wrong, footballers or those from any other profession which [pays more than I can dream of earning will always put them and their families first!
I was gutted and upset, but if he came back and made it up to the fans, I think we genuinely forgive people and move on with our lives, I have been supporting this club since the 70's, but I rarely find the time to get to games nowadays, but would have no objection!
As mentioned he is 33 so it won't happen, and was Bowyer at Brum and took him back?
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Which they are entitled to receive after fulfilling their contract. Something Taylor wasn't prepared to do.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
Next time I quit a job Im taking the Lyle Taylor approach, Im refusing to work my notice so I don't get injured for the new job.
Funnily enough that is almost literally what I've just done. They are calling it gardening leave to save face. I'm calling it, "sorry I'm not coming back in".
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Next time I quit a job Im taking the Lyle Taylor approach, Im refusing to work my notice so I don't get injured for the new job.
Funnily enough that is almost literally what I've just done. They are calling it gardening leave to save face. I'm calling it, "sorry I'm not coming back in".
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Yeah but his reasons are because he only cares about Lyle Taylor and Lyle Taylor's bank balance.
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
Im sure most supporters would welcome Lyle back if it got us promotion , he chose us over Sunderland for more money than we paid him when he first signed and I can never forget how good he was to Betty Hutchins when she was ill, Id love to have him back and I expect Holden wouldnt turn him down, perhaps he could play the first 9 games for nothing as a sort of payback
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Yeah but his reasons are because he only cares about Lyle Taylor and Lyle Taylor's bank balance.
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
I couldn't have any less respect for the bloke
I don't disagree with any of that. But...
If he had done his ACL, for example, would you expect Southall or Elliottt would have "looked after him"?
When JFC did his ACL in the penultimate game of the season at least Thomas gave him some sort of contract, peanuts to what he could have got but more than most of us earn.
Also if he actually broke his contract don't you think the litigation happy Farnell would have sued him?
100% I would have done the same, if my future was potentially dependent on Southall.
I honestly don't think he would have done it if Roland or Thomas owned us at the time.
Expect to be in a minority but I’d love to see him back. I don’t think he’d have a negative affect on the dressing room, quite the opposite.
Hated him at the time… now I half respect his honesty.
Please no, would divide the fan base, which is what we don’t need right now.
However good he was for us, and at his best he was like 2 players, money has gone to his head, he’s hardly kicked a ball in the last 4 years, and whatever we think, he will think he owes us nothing.
Im not sure I could take to him coming back to be honest, he walked away when we needed him to do his job and keep us in the championship, and he told us to poke it.
Only reason he’s popping his head up out of the parapet is because he wants another contract, don’t fool for it!
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Yeah but his reasons are because he only cares about Lyle Taylor and Lyle Taylor's bank balance.
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Yeah but his reasons are because he only cares about Lyle Taylor and Lyle Taylor's bank balance.
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
I couldn't have any less respect for the bloke
I don't disagree with any of that. But...
If he had done his ACL, for example, would you expect Southall or Elliottt would have "looked after him"?
When JFC did his ACL in the penultimate game of the season at least Thomas gave him some sort of contract, peanuts to what he could have got but more than most of us earn.
Also if he actually broke his contract don't you think the litigation happy Farnell would have sued him?
100% I would have done the same, if my future was potentially dependent on Southall.
I honestly don't think he would have done it if Roland or Thomas owned us at the time.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.
Polish Pete?
I wonder what happened to him.
Signed recently for Emmen in the Dutch Second Division. Been all over Europe since leaving us , with not too much success goals wise.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.
Do some of you actually think we've got any say in whether he comes back or not. Just like with Bonne last season if Holden thinks he's the man for us then he'll take him and we will just have to suck it up. I don't like what Vile Traitor did one bit but if he ever pulled on the shirt again he'd have my support like the rest of the boys in red & white.
My favourite Charlton player since Jann Kermorgant. (And Mrs. Grumpy's).
The club was a basket case and he prioritised his own interests and those of his family. Not very admirable I agree but compared to the scumbag moral behavior of many young professional footballers a pretty minor sin.
"Jann Kermogant"? Is that Yann's Polish half brother?
If only we could uncover a Polish version of Yann.
Polish Pete?
I wonder what happened to him.
Signed recently for Emmen in the Dutch Second Division. Been all over Europe since leaving us , with not too much success goals wise.
a lot of signing on contracts to boost his bank balance then.
Do some of you actually think we've got any say in whether he comes back or not. Just like with Bonne last season if Holden thinks he's the man for us then he'll take him and we will just have to suck it up. I don't like what Vile Traitor did one bit but if he ever pulled on the shirt again he'd have my support like the rest of the boys in red & white.
How would Holden would justify it after telling us about his “no dickheads” rule?
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Yeah but his reasons are because he only cares about Lyle Taylor and Lyle Taylor's bank balance.
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
I couldn't have any less respect for the bloke
I don't disagree with any of that. But...
If he had done his ACL, for example, would you expect Southall or Elliottt would have "looked after him"?
When JFC did his ACL in the penultimate game of the season at least Thomas gave him some sort of contract, peanuts to what he could have got but more than most of us earn.
Also if he actually broke his contract don't you think the litigation happy Farnell would have sued him?
100% I would have done the same, if my future was potentially dependent on Southall.
I honestly don't think he would have done it if Roland or Thomas owned us at the time.
It's pointless to speculate what Southall would or wouldn't have done. Re: your last line, I don't get that sense listening to Lyle now. He talks purely about himself.
Regarding the ACL injury point, by that logic, shouldn't every player approaching the end of their contract opt not to play? The majority do play. Lyle's decision is an outlier, but being treated by some as a norm.
As if anyone else in this thread wouldn't of done the same as Lyle. He is probably financially set for life now.
Nailed it, close thread.
Bollocks, tons of footballers see out their contracts like professionals.
Seeing out the contract to then take a signing on fee. In many instances this will be the case, and into the bargain stopping a club get a transfer fee.
It works both ways.
Funny how so many are desperate to make excuses for him. Shows how low people's expectations are...
I am not making excuses for him, I have no problems with what he did. I understand why he did it.
Wimbledon away last season, he was in the crowd hearing the away end singing "Taylor, you're a c***"! Do you honestly think he is concerned with that when he can play on the golf course every day for the rest of his life.
As I have repeatedly said, and stand(not very high) by, what he did was wrong but I fully understand why he did it.
Yeah but his reasons are because he only cares about Lyle Taylor and Lyle Taylor's bank balance.
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
I couldn't have any less respect for the bloke
I'm sure that really hurts him.
I'm not trying to hurt anyone, I'm expressing my opinion on a public forum, as we all are.
Everyone on this forum will know someone or have previously known someone in their life who is a narcissist to the very core. Sometimes they are so good at it that it can take years for others to eventually suss them out.
They have a very clever way of piecing stories together that sound believable to those who are not close to the situation. They will also add a touch of emotive heartstring pulling in there to really drive it home.
He has no doubt revamped the story, word-for-word, so many times in his insecure mind over the past few years that he probably completely believes the version he is telling.
Taylor is a master at this sort of thing. I also think he is a very intelligent person in many respects. But this is something that I suspect still troubles him.
I don’t even think he’s that intelligent. I think he’s just flicked through a thesaurus a few times, has picked up a few ‘long words’ and that makes him stand out from the average footballer.
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What he did was morally wrong, footballers or those from any other profession which [pays more than I can dream of earning will always put them and their families first!
I was gutted and upset, but if he came back and made it up to the fans, I think we genuinely forgive people and move on with our lives, I have been supporting this club since the 70's, but I rarely find the time to get to games nowadays, but would have no objection!
As mentioned he is 33 so it won't happen, and was Bowyer at Brum and took him back?
You naughty boy
He was willing to drop his mates, a football club, a local area and thousand of fans who loved him right into the shit, just so he didn't 'risk' himself.
I really don't believe everyone would have done the same.
I couldn't have any less respect for the bloke
If he had done his ACL, for example, would you expect Southall or Elliottt would have "looked after him"?
When JFC did his ACL in the penultimate game of the season at least Thomas gave him some sort of contract, peanuts to what he could have got but more than most of us earn.
Also if he actually broke his contract don't you think the litigation happy Farnell would have sued him?
100% I would have done the same, if my future was potentially dependent on Southall.
I honestly don't think he would have done it if Roland or Thomas owned us at the time.
However good he was for us, and at his best he was like 2 players, money has gone to his head, he’s hardly kicked a ball in the last 4 years, and whatever we think, he will think he owes us nothing.
Im not sure I could take to him coming back to be honest, he walked away when we needed him to do his job and keep us in the championship, and he told us to poke it.
Only reason he’s popping his head up out of the parapet is because he wants another contract, don’t fool for it!
Agree with everything apart from the final line.
I wonder what happened to him.
Signed recently for Emmen in the Dutch Second Division. Been all over Europe since leaving us , with not too much success goals wise.
7 goals in 76 games over the last 3 years, a record Macauley Bonne would be proud of.
a lot of signing on contracts to boost his bank balance then.
If your this upset with a footballer , God help you with a break up.
Regarding the ACL injury point, by that logic, shouldn't every player approaching the end of their contract opt not to play? The majority do play. Lyle's decision is an outlier, but being treated by some as a norm.
I'm not trying to hurt anyone, I'm expressing my opinion on a public forum, as we all are.
They have a very clever way of piecing stories together that sound believable to those who are not close to the situation. They will also add a touch of emotive heartstring pulling in there to really drive it home.
He has no doubt revamped the story, word-for-word, so many times in his insecure mind over the past few years that he probably completely believes the version he is telling.
Taylor is a master at this sort of thing. I also think he is a very intelligent person in many respects. But this is something that I suspect still troubles him.