Saw GP today and being referred back to specialist at Darenth Valley . Apparently my arthritis (psoriatic) will only get worse. Cheery news. No real helpful advice from him on what to do management wise so I'm going to try some of the diet suggestions above, starting with cherry juice.
I read somewhere that losing weight helps - I'm not a huge heffer but could lose a few pounds. Has anyone had success with that?
Great thread - lots of suggestions
Change to plant based nutrition and your problems will go away in maximum of 20 days. Keep eating the same as you are now and it will only get worse. Your Doctor will not tell you this as incredibly they are not taught nutrition! Try it for 20 days, you will be amazed and so will your doctors.
I wouldnt like to guess at how many years it was since Arsenetatters last ate meat.
Poor old Mr Tatters
He's on a whole plant based diet too and apparently doesn't have any erectile issues
Saw GP today and being referred back to specialist at Darenth Valley . Apparently my arthritis (psoriatic) will only get worse. Cheery news. No real helpful advice from him on what to do management wise so I'm going to try some of the diet suggestions above, starting with cherry juice.
I read somewhere that losing weight helps - I'm not a huge heffer but could lose a few pounds. Has anyone had success with that?
Great thread - lots of suggestions
Change to plant based nutrition and your problems will go away in maximum of 20 days. Keep eating the same as you are now and it will only get worse. Your Doctor will not tell you this as incredibly they are not taught nutrition! Try it for 20 days, you will be amazed and so will your doctors.
I wouldnt like to guess at how many years it was since Arsenetatters last ate meat.
Poor old Mr Tatters
He's on a whole plant based diet too and apparently doesn't have any erectile issues
He refuses to eat pants. I refuse to cook meat.
Not too keen on eating them myself to be honest, but I suppose it's who's been wearing them first ?
Just as I began thanking god for not putting any joints in my cock, I came across my frozen wrist... Time to swear at this Roland condition. Waking up to a car crash.
Saw really patronising consultant at Darenth Valley Hospital.
To start with there was a young woman in the consulting room who he didn't introduce me to. I assumed she was a student. I'd filled out the very detailed questionnaire (as I do everytime) on where it hurts, how much etc. He didn't even look at it but said - 'injection or tablets?' I said I had a few questions first. One was asking about how the arthritis is going to pan out. He just laughed and, looking at the student, said 'you women worry too much', followed by 'injection or tablets'. I asked what the pros and cons were of each which seemed to annoy him. I told him I'd have tablets and then if I needed an injection my GP would do one. He was cross by then 'only I can do them' (not true, I've had them by the GP before).
I spoke to the GP about him, hoping I could go to someone else but she didn't seem to want to do anything as he's the 'main man'. Meanwhile he hasn't spoken about disease modifying drugs or other possible treatments. I'm booked in to see him again in December but to be honest I can't see the point in going - unless I want an injection. Is this the usual sort of consultation to expect? Oh and the appointment before this one he said I couldn't have tablets due to my liver function results. He showed me the computer screen and it looked like he was looking at the wrong column. Sure enough, my GP confirmed that my liver function is fine (it's measured frequently due to the meds I'm on).
Saw really patronising consultant at Darenth Valley Hospital.
To start with there was a young woman in the consulting room who he didn't introduce me to. I assumed she was a student. I'd filled out the very detailed questionnaire (as I do everytime) on where it hurts, how much etc. He didn't even look at it but said - 'injection or tablets?' I said I had a few questions first. One was asking about how the arthritis is going to pan out. He just laughed and, looking at the student, said 'you women worry too much', followed by 'injection or tablets'. I asked what the pros and cons were of each which seemed to annoy him. I told him I'd have tablets and then if I needed an injection my GP would do one. He was cross by then 'only I can do them' (not true, I've had them by the GP before).
I spoke to the GP about him, hoping I could go to someone else but she didn't seem to want to do anything as he's the 'main man'. Meanwhile he hasn't spoken about disease modifying drugs or other possible treatments. I'm booked in to see him again in December but to be honest I can't see the point in going - unless I want an injection. Is this the usual sort of consultation to expect? Oh and the appointment before this one he said I couldn't have tablets due to my liver function results. He showed me the computer screen and it looked like he was looking at the wrong column. Sure enough, my GP confirmed that my liver function is fine (it's measured frequently due to the meds I'm on).
Saw really patronising consultant at Darenth Valley Hospital.
To start with there was a young woman in the consulting room who he didn't introduce me to. I assumed she was a student. I'd filled out the very detailed questionnaire (as I do everytime) on where it hurts, how much etc. He didn't even look at it but said - 'injection or tablets?' I said I had a few questions first. One was asking about how the arthritis is going to pan out. He just laughed and, looking at the student, said 'you women worry too much', followed by 'injection or tablets'. I asked what the pros and cons were of each which seemed to annoy him. I told him I'd have tablets and then if I needed an injection my GP would do one. He was cross by then 'only I can do them' (not true, I've had them by the GP before).
I spoke to the GP about him, hoping I could go to someone else but she didn't seem to want to do anything as he's the 'main man'. Meanwhile he hasn't spoken about disease modifying drugs or other possible treatments. I'm booked in to see him again in December but to be honest I can't see the point in going - unless I want an injection. Is this the usual sort of consultation to expect? Oh and the appointment before this one he said I couldn't have tablets due to my liver function results. He showed me the computer screen and it looked like he was looking at the wrong column. Sure enough, my GP confirmed that my liver function is fine (it's measured frequently due to the meds I'm on).
That is awful, what a bastard, very sorry to hear that
You absolutely have my sympathy, @Arsenetatters. There are some lovely people working in the NHS, but unfortunately it is the ones like your DVH consultant who leave the lasting impression.
Had a similar experience with the surly dermatology consultant at RBH in Reading when I was being followed up after my melanoma removal. Totally unwilling to answer any questions, sarcastic to any junior members of staff with him and the administrative staff - a total prick. Thank goodness some of my consultations were with the plastic surgeon from Oxford Radcliff, who was a lovely human being.
Is there any chance your GP could refer you to a different hospital with another consultant?
That’s dreadful @Arsenetatters. I had an experience a few years ago with a consultant at DVH which sounds quite similar. Maybe the same guy although he was getting on a bit back then (2008) so perhaps someone else. It’s really disconcerting. My GP was persuaded to give me a second referral to another specialist who gave me much better advice so please do push for it rather than just swallowing it up.
You absolutely have my sympathy, @Arsenetatters. There are some lovely people working in the NHS, but unfortunately it is the ones like your DVH consultant who leave the lasting impression.
Had a similar experience with the surly dermatology consultant at RBH in Reading when I was being followed up after my melanoma removal. Totally unwilling to answer any questions, sarcastic to any junior members of staff with him and the administrative staff - a total prick. Thank goodness some of my consultations were with the plastic surgeon from Oxford Radcliff, who was a lovely human being.
Is there any chance your GP could refer you to a different hospital with another consultant?
She wasn’t keen to refer to somewhere else as this is ‘the main man’. I’ll go and see him in December and take it from there.
I remembered something else! Last time I was there I told him my back was bad. He said I’d never mentioned it before but it was one of the reasons I was referred originally. He mumbled about an MRI but I’ve heard nothing since. My GP had to chase him up for a report of the consultation and he doesn’t even mention it. Complete wanker.
Talking to a pal of mine about arthritis in Bailey she recommended Serapeptase and completely natural anti inflammatory tablet. I ordered them online only to find Serapeptase is the human equivalent Serrapet is the tablet for animals the difference being a simple flavour is added plus a huge mark up on price. But on speaking to her she assured me on its contents being safe for Baileys arthritis also Bowyer’s pano and both myself and my wife’s osteoarthritis. It’s made a huge difference to both myself and Baileys condition with my wife and Bowyer’s levels of improvement continuing daily they come highly recommended by us.
We’ve been talking about this hemp balm on a different thread so I thought I’d repeat it here as there may be other people using it for arthritis. @T_C_E said it had helped him. I’ve just bought some to try. Has anyone else tried this or something similar?
Ive found I no longer need it every day like I did at the start, I now apply as and when I need it. While it doest stop all the pain, for example I was painting fence panels the other day and my hands were in trouble, before I started using it I couldn't have held a brush in the first place even signing my name is an issue. The pain while doing absolutely nothing has almost gone and if nothing else Id settle for that.
Interesting read this. I feel very lucky - I'm nearly 55 , never exercised in my life and eaten whatever i like and done whatever i like to my body, and my god have i took the piss. But 2 years ago while still smoking 40 fags a day and drinking most days i got severe pneumonia and had a collapsed lung, which ended up as sepsis with an infection marker of 420 which is through the roof. Since that day i have never smoked again and tried to behave a bit better.
BUT i now have a weird creaking pain in both little fingers and one is basically now a bit bent and has swelling around the knuckle. reading all this I obviously have some sort of arthritis which i never knew - just thought it was old age and ignored it. CL strikes again as a place of help and information for me. I will be reading up on the diets etc and seeing if i can head this thing off at the pass before it gets too bad. Thanks you lot (I THINK?)
My fingers are really getting swollen and painful. Almost every week a different bloody knuckle joins in. I can’t even wear some of the rings I could before. I’m not seeing the rheumatologist for months and then it will probably be another video appointment.
Any suggestions on how to cope/deal with this bit of arthritis ? It’s getting me down.
We’ve been talking about this hemp balm on a different thread so I thought I’d repeat it here as there may be other people using it for arthritis. @T_C_E said it had helped him. I’ve just bought some to try. Has anyone else tried this or something similar?
Did this help? I've always thought the cold makes it worse?
I feel for you. You probably know all I know about the condition but heres what I do. I'm on Methotraxate (have been for 2 years), recently had a rough period following 2nd Astrazeneca shot, with shoulders wrists and knees attacks. It was tough. In times of flare ups I take slow release anti inflammatory tablet (Naproxen 1000mg) to deal with attacks. I'm never pain free but at the moment my situation is manageable.
We’ve been talking about this hemp balm on a different thread so I thought I’d repeat it here as there may be other people using it for arthritis. @T_C_E said it had helped him. I’ve just bought some to try. Has anyone else tried this or something similar?
Did this help? I've always thought the cold makes it worse?
I don't think I used it often enough/gave it long enough. I'm giving it another go.
I feel for you. You probably know all I know about the condition but heres what I do. I'm on Methotraxate (have been for 2 years), recently had a rough period following 2nd Astrazeneca shot, with shoulders wrists and knees attacks. It was tough. In times of flare ups I take slow release anti inflammatory tablet (Naproxen 1000mg) to deal with attacks. I'm never pain free but at the moment my situation is manageable.
My diagnosis started at psoriatic arthritis back in 2008 but I wasn't offered any disease modifying drugs. They've started looking at it again and despite having all the indicators of psoriatic arthritis are now saying it may be osteoarthritis. Meanwhile it's getting worse, I'm having frequent Iritis flare ups etc. Going down the eye hospital route now as they may give me the disease modifying drugs anyway.
Sorry to jump in. I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis about 10 years ago. I was in a physical job and when I got made redundant about 4 years ago my pains did ease. They put me on Methotrexate with Folic Acid tablets. I found Methotrexate so hard to take, it made me feel so sick every week for 3 days and eating stopped me feeling sick. I’m sure it affected my ability to think straight too. I stopped taking Methotrexate about 3 years ago and I can truly say I’m so glad I did. I now know my limitations and feel a lot better.
I feel for you. You probably know all I know about the condition but heres what I do. I'm on Methotraxate (have been for 2 years), recently had a rough period following 2nd Astrazeneca shot, with shoulders wrists and knees attacks. It was tough. In times of flare ups I take slow release anti inflammatory tablet (Naproxen 1000mg) to deal with attacks. I'm never pain free but at the moment my situation is manageable.
My diagnosis started at psoriatic arthritis back in 2008 but I wasn't offered any disease modifying drugs. They've started looking at it again and despite having all the indicators of psoriatic arthritis are now saying it may be osteoarthritis. Meanwhile it's getting worse, I'm having frequent Iritis flare ups etc. Going down the eye hospital route now as they may give me the disease modifying drugs anyway.
How have you found Methotraxate?
My Rheumatologist offered it to me a while back. For a few years I tried to deal with my pain by modifying diet, taking fish oil, curcumin, fenugreek, you name it... we are all affected in a different way so I'm not knocking or championing any treatment. In my case, the Methotrexate is helping but the Rheumatoid is here to stay. When strong attacks are happening only the Naproxen helps (prescribed by doctor, taken with food for short periods) I would advise to find a specialist, and in addition to whatever treatment, also to make a plan for how to deal with strong attacks (pain management)
I had psoratic arthritis in my
mid 40s and the consultant prescribed various medications but none
seemed to stop the steady increase in the spread to other joints and
feared I was heading for a wheelchair but have been in remission for
over 20 years. My wife had a lucky meeting with a retired colleague
who had suffered badly with arthritis even to the extent of having
her knee caps removed. The colleague was walking easily and was
living a normal, pain free life; she had read The Arthritics Cook
Book By Dr Colin Dong who believes some arthritis is caused by the
body’s reaction to certain food and this intolerance leads to
arthritis like symptoms. She gave it a go and it worked for her. I
tried it and it worked for me. It is not easy to find which foods
cause the reaction as you have to start with only eating the blandest
of foods and slowly add to the your diet until you find those that
cause the reaction. You could start to feel the benefit quite quickly
as you should no longer be eating the food causing the pain. In my
case it was vinegar, citrus fruits and the gas in stella artois cans.
You have nothing to lose by trying this route. There are numerous cook books of this sort and not all of them are quackery.
I had psoratic arthritis in my
mid 40s and the consultant prescribed various medications but none
seemed to stop the steady increase in the spread to other joints and
feared I was heading for a wheelchair but have been in remission for
over 20 years. My wife had a lucky meeting with a retired colleague
who had suffered badly with arthritis even to the extent of having
her knee caps removed. The colleague was walking easily and was
living a normal, pain free life; she had read The Arthritics Cook
Book By Dr Colin Dong who believes some arthritis is caused by the
body’s reaction to certain food and this intolerance leads to
arthritis like symptoms. She gave it a go and it worked for her. I
tried it and it worked for me. It is not easy to find which foods
cause the reaction as you have to start with only eating the blandest
of foods and slowly add to the your diet until you find those that
cause the reaction. You could start to feel the benefit quite quickly
as you should no longer be eating the food causing the pain. In my
case it was vinegar, citrus fruits and the gas in stella artois cans.
You have nothing to lose by trying this route. There are numerous cook books of this sort and not all of them are quackery.
Wow, that’s certainly worth a try, thank you. This morning my hip joint has flared up too. I’m going to have a search for the book.
I’ve managed to find an old copy on Amazon for a couple of quid. Will give it a try. As you say, there’s nothing to lose. I just hope wine isn’t on his list 🙂
I’ve managed to find an old copy on Amazon for a couple of quid. Will give it a try. As you say, there’s nothing to lose. I just hope wine isn’t on his list 🙂
I think wine is out to start with but you can try it if/when the bland food diet has had an effect to see if this is one of things affecting you. If it has no effect, other than to make you fall down, then make merry as usual. Speaking of which, the New Year may be a good time to start rather than before Xmas. I drink mainly red wine and real ale and they have no impact on my latent arthritis.
I’ve managed to find an old copy on Amazon for a couple of quid. Will give it a try. As you say, there’s nothing to lose. I just hope wine isn’t on his list 🙂
I think wine is out to start with but you can try it if/when the bland food diet has had an effect to see if this is one of things affecting you. If it has no effect, other than to make you fall down, then make merry as usual. Speaking of which, the New Year may be a good time to start rather than before Xmas. I drink mainly red wine and real ale and they have no impact on my latent arthritis.
Just saved the book with the last paragraph. Great review 🤣🤣
Bland food diet the way to start. Fish chicken, avoid red meat and processed food. My dad found strawberries set his off so keep a food diary to see what might be a trigger.
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Time to swear at this Roland condition. Waking up to a car crash.
Fuck you Rheumatoid.
Good morning
Saw really patronising consultant at Darenth Valley Hospital.
To start with there was a young woman in the consulting room who he didn't introduce me to. I assumed she was a student. I'd filled out the very detailed questionnaire (as I do everytime) on where it hurts, how much etc. He didn't even look at it but said - 'injection or tablets?' I said I had a few questions first. One was asking about how the arthritis is going to pan out. He just laughed and, looking at the student, said 'you women worry too much', followed by 'injection or tablets'. I asked what the pros and cons were of each which seemed to annoy him. I told him I'd have tablets and then if I needed an injection my GP would do one. He was cross by then 'only I can do them' (not true, I've had them by the GP before).
I spoke to the GP about him, hoping I could go to someone else but she didn't seem to want to do anything as he's the 'main man'. Meanwhile he hasn't spoken about disease modifying drugs or other possible treatments. I'm booked in to see him again in December but to be honest I can't see the point in going - unless I want an injection. Is this the usual sort of consultation to expect? Oh and the appointment before this one he said I couldn't have tablets due to my liver function results. He showed me the computer screen and it looked like he was looking at the wrong column. Sure enough, my GP confirmed that my liver function is fine (it's measured frequently due to the meds I'm on).
That is awful, what a bastard, very sorry to hear that
Had a similar experience with the surly dermatology consultant at RBH in Reading when I was being followed up after my melanoma removal. Totally unwilling to answer any questions, sarcastic to any junior members of staff with him and the administrative staff - a total prick. Thank goodness some of my consultations were with the plastic surgeon from Oxford Radcliff, who was a lovely human being.
Is there any chance your GP could refer you to a different hospital with another consultant?
I remembered something else! Last time I was there I told him my back was bad. He said I’d never mentioned it before but it was one of the reasons I was referred originally. He mumbled about an MRI but I’ve heard nothing since. My GP had to chase him up for a report of the consultation and he doesn’t even mention it. Complete wanker.
BUT i now have a weird creaking pain in both little fingers and one is basically now a bit bent and has swelling around the knuckle. reading all this I obviously have some sort of arthritis which i never knew - just thought it was old age and ignored it. CL strikes again as a place of help and information for me. I will be reading up on the diets etc and seeing if i can head this thing off at the pass before it gets too bad. Thanks you lot (I THINK?)
I've always thought the cold makes it worse?
I would advise to find a specialist, and in addition to whatever treatment, also to make a plan for how to deal with strong attacks (pain management)
I had psoratic arthritis in my mid 40s and the consultant prescribed various medications but none seemed to stop the steady increase in the spread to other joints and feared I was heading for a wheelchair but have been in remission for over 20 years. My wife had a lucky meeting with a retired colleague who had suffered badly with arthritis even to the extent of having her knee caps removed. The colleague was walking easily and was living a normal, pain free life; she had read The Arthritics Cook Book By Dr Colin Dong who believes some arthritis is caused by the body’s reaction to certain food and this intolerance leads to arthritis like symptoms. She gave it a go and it worked for her. I tried it and it worked for me. It is not easy to find which foods cause the reaction as you have to start with only eating the blandest of foods and slowly add to the your diet until you find those that cause the reaction. You could start to feel the benefit quite quickly as you should no longer be eating the food causing the pain. In my case it was vinegar, citrus fruits and the gas in stella artois cans.
You have nothing to lose by trying this route. There are numerous cook books of this sort and not all of them are quackery.
I think wine is out to start with but you can try it if/when the bland food diet has had an effect to see if this is one of things affecting you. If it has no effect, other than to make you fall down, then make merry as usual. Speaking of which, the New Year may be a good time to start rather than before Xmas. I drink mainly red wine and real ale and they have no impact on my latent arthritis.