Sweden v England
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Uruguay are amazing. How does a country with 2 million fewer people than Scotland produce so many world class players?Henry Irving said:One Uruguay booking all tournament reflects their new discipline. Dark horses.
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If Croatia go through it would be nice if Rakitic and mandzukic pick up 2nd yellows.Callumcafc said:Look how many Croatians are on yellow cards...
Would love it if Neymar gets another yellow.4 -
Any news on whose fit for the game? Walker pulled up badly, Kane, Alli, Vardy all apparently carrying something, and I feel i've forgotten some.0
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I don't think they sell Super Tenants in Uruguay.SantaClaus said:
Uruguay are amazing. How does a country with 2 million fewer people than Scotland produce so many world class players?Henry Irving said:One Uruguay booking all tournament reflects their new discipline. Dark horses.
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4-4-2. Wellbeck up top with Kane popped in my head during slumber last night.
At first I thought it was a crazy idea, but it's growing on me.
He'd be more of a presence than Stirling. Wouldn't get swallowed up as much by the Swedish giants and knows where the net is for England. I also believe RLC and Delph were on either flank.4 -
Wellbeck doesn't even deserve to be in the squad, hope he doesn't even come on the pitch (prove me wrong please!)carly burn said:4-4-2. Wellbeck up top with Kane popped in my head during slumber last night.
At first I thought it was a crazy idea, but it's growing on me.
He'd be more of a presence than Stirling. Wouldn't get swallowed up as much by the Swedish giants and knows where the net is for England. I also believe RLC and Delph were on either flank.1 -
Have Uraguay been having counselling??Callumcafc said:Look how many Croatians are on yellow cards...
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Cards re wiped after the quarter finals.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If Croatia go through it would be nice if Rakitic and mandzukic pick up 2nd yellows.Callumcafc said:Look how many Croatians are on yellow cards...
Would love it if Neymar gets another yellow.0 -
But if they get a yellow in this game and are already on a yellow, they miss the semi.masicat said:
Cards re wiped after the quarter finals.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If Croatia go through it would be nice if Rakitic and mandzukic pick up 2nd yellows.Callumcafc said:Look how many Croatians are on yellow cards...
Would love it if Neymar gets another yellow.1 -
So we really want Croatia v Russia to be an ill-tempered battle
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Yes i meant if they get cards in the quarters they then miss the semi.masicat said:
Cards re wiped after the quarter finals.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If Croatia go through it would be nice if Rakitic and mandzukic pick up 2nd yellows.Callumcafc said:Look how many Croatians are on yellow cards...
Would love it if Neymar gets another yellow.
Be nice if the Croatians get involved in a real battle with Russia, 120 minutes of niggly shit, with half the side picking up yellows and missing the semi final4 -
Embellished that for you mateChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes i meant if they get cards in the quarters they then miss the semi.masicat said:
Cards re wiped after the quarter finals.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If Croatia go through it would be nice if Rakitic and mandzukic pick up 2nd yellows.Callumcafc said:Look how many Croatians are on yellow cards...
Would love it if Neymar gets another yellow.
Be nice if the Croatians get involved in a real battle with Russia, 120 minutes of niggly shit , with half the side picking up yellows, heavy knocks and missing the semi final
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Tickets available on the Fifa website if anyone fancies a last minute 15hr flight to Samara.0
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And a spare 2k , flights are a joke0
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Sterling, Sterling Sterling.carly burn said:4-4-2. Wellbeck up top with Kane popped in my head during slumber last night.
At first I thought it was a crazy idea, but it's growing on me.
He'd be more of a presence than Stirling. Wouldn't get swallowed up as much by the Swedish giants and knows where the net is for England. I also believe RLC and Delph were on either flank.0 -
Just looking at the flights on sky scanner. Bit of a massive slog too.
On the Fifa website now. Not bad price really.
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I know 4 people who have conditional Eng tickets for the quarters but can't afford to get there
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Save your pennies for the semis and final, a lot cheaper and easier to get to Moscow1
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3 at the back will be fine on Saturday as we have centre backs who can bring the ball out and bolster our midfield.
Indeed when Maguire is on one of his rampaging runs, he's more like an attacker!2 - Sponsored links:
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This game is not a problem. Sweden are usually 4-4-2, we are 5-3-2 to 3-5-2. That gives us a 3 v 2 in the central midfield, which Sweden will have to solve, either by pulling a wide player inside or by getting the second striker Berg to play deeper to pick up our holding midfielder Henderson. This will then give us 3 Centre Backs up against Toivenen, allowing Maguire or Stones to come out and overload the central areas. Sweden will have to disrupt their system to play us and do not have the personnel to do it.
The only issues for us, will be 2 v 1 on the flanks if they push their full backs on alongside their wide players, to overload our wing backs, which can be covered by Walker on the right and Maguire on the left. If they do that, we can hit them on the break in the vacant full back areas and pull their big Centre Backs out. Or if Toivenen plays up against Walker and gives him problems with his height and size.
Southgate's system is perfect to deal with 4-4-2.26 -
That makes a remarkable amount of sense.Tutt-Tutt said:This game is not a problem. Sweden are usually 4-4-2, we are 5-3-2 to 3-5-2. That gives us a 3 v 2 in the central midfield, which Sweden will have to solve, either by pulling a wide player inside or by getting the second striker Berg to play deeper to pick up our holding midfielder Henderson. This will then give us 3 Centre Backs up against Toivenen, allowing Maguire or Stones to come out and overload the central areas. Sweden will have to disrupt their system to play us and do not have the personnel to do it.
The only issues for us, will be 2 v 1 on the flanks if they push their full backs on alongside their wide players, to overload our wing backs, which can be covered by Walker on the right and Maguire on the left. If they do that, we can hit them on the break in the vacant full back areas and pull their big Centre Backs out. Or if Toivenen plays up against Walker and gives him problems with his height and size.
Southgate's system is perfect to deal with 4-4-2.0 -
Made enough friends on the coach to the Belgium game that I have a spare floor for the final when we get there.The Organiser said:I know 4 people who have conditional Eng tickets for the quarters but can't afford to get there
I’ve got a final ticket, and three days to get there and two days to get back. Probably going via Turkey.2 -
Well you could play three of him.The Red Robin said:
Sterling, Sterling Sterling.carly burn said:4-4-2. Wellbeck up top with Kane popped in my head during slumber last night.
At first I thought it was a crazy idea, but it's growing on me.
He'd be more of a presence than Stirling. Wouldn't get swallowed up as much by the Swedish giants and knows where the net is for England. I also believe RLC and Delph were on either flank.
Bet he still wouldn't score.4 -
This will work as long as Alli (if fit) and Lingard keep to more central areas. Against Colombia, Alli seemed like he was playing left midfield. Completely ineffective out there.Tutt-Tutt said:This game is not a problem. Sweden are usually 4-4-2, we are 5-3-2 to 3-5-2. That gives us a 3 v 2 in the central midfield, which Sweden will have to solve, either by pulling a wide player inside or by getting the second striker Berg to play deeper to pick up our holding midfielder Henderson. This will then give us 3 Centre Backs up against Toivenen, allowing Maguire or Stones to come out and overload the central areas. Sweden will have to disrupt their system to play us and do not have the personnel to do it.
The only issues for us, will be 2 v 1 on the flanks if they push their full backs on alongside their wide players, to overload our wing backs, which can be covered by Walker on the right and Maguire on the left. If they do that, we can hit them on the break in the vacant full back areas and pull their big Centre Backs out. Or if Toivenen plays up against Walker and gives him problems with his height and size.
Southgate's system is perfect to deal with 4-4-2.0 -
I think Henderson will see a lot of the ball on Saturday. They won’t want Toivenen getting isolated and inviting pressure, so can see Berg being told to stay as high as he can and Forsberg having to more donkey work than he will like or enjoy.Tutt-Tutt said:This game is not a problem. Sweden are usually 4-4-2, we are 5-3-2 to 3-5-2. That gives us a 3 v 2 in the central midfield, which Sweden will have to solve, either by pulling a wide player inside or by getting the second striker Berg to play deeper to pick up our holding midfielder Henderson. This will then give us 3 Centre Backs up against Toivenen, allowing Maguire or Stones to come out and overload the central areas. Sweden will have to disrupt their system to play us and do not have the personnel to do it.
The only issues for us, will be 2 v 1 on the flanks if they push their full backs on alongside their wide players, to overload our wing backs, which can be covered by Walker on the right and Maguire on the left. If they do that, we can hit them on the break in the vacant full back areas and pull their big Centre Backs out. Or if Toivenen plays up against Walker and gives him problems with his height and size.
Southgate's system is perfect to deal with 4-4-2.
If Henderson does see more of the ball then it’s absolutely imperative that the front 4 have plenty of movement. JH is very good and passing between the lines and this is where we will hurt Sweden if it happens. Our wing backs should also see plenty of the ball as I can see their full backs not wanting to venture to far outside of their flat back 4.
As you say, we have the perfect system, we just need to make it count.3 -
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Tut tut always talks a lot of sense. Knows his stuff.bobmunro said:
That makes a remarkable amount of sense.Tutt-Tutt said:This game is not a problem. Sweden are usually 4-4-2, we are 5-3-2 to 3-5-2. That gives us a 3 v 2 in the central midfield, which Sweden will have to solve, either by pulling a wide player inside or by getting the second striker Berg to play deeper to pick up our holding midfielder Henderson. This will then give us 3 Centre Backs up against Toivenen, allowing Maguire or Stones to come out and overload the central areas. Sweden will have to disrupt their system to play us and do not have the personnel to do it.
The only issues for us, will be 2 v 1 on the flanks if they push their full backs on alongside their wide players, to overload our wing backs, which can be covered by Walker on the right and Maguire on the left. If they do that, we can hit them on the break in the vacant full back areas and pull their big Centre Backs out. Or if Toivenen plays up against Walker and gives him problems with his height and size.
Southgate's system is perfect to deal with 4-4-2.4 -
Accomodation will be an issue too.0
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Changing from 3/5 at the back to 4 at the back would be an absolutely ridiculous decision when we are 3 games away from winning a World Cup. Yeah we've not been perfect but suddenly changing from the defensive system we've been working on for months before the tournament and giving them 3/4 days to learn a completely different system (with a different line-up) is just suicide isn't it?
We've not had quite the chances you'd hope but we've been the better team whenever our full strength team has played and not been too far away really.10
