Also no way Maradona or Pele are fit to lace Messi or Ronaldo's boots, football has moved on
I used to have this argument with my Dad who played football in the 50s in Hungary. He maintained that Puskas would have been a world class player in any era whereas my argument was that footballers were allowed far more space in those times whereas nowadays it is undoubtedly a faster and more physical game.
This was an era when Hungary defeated England 6-3 and 7-1. What is without debate is that skill such as Puskas's drag back to dump the England captain, Billy Wright, on his backside, his awareness and finish would be considered "world class" even nowadays:
I've mellowed to the extent that I think players like Puskas, Maradona and Pele would have adapted. And footballs, such as those used in the '50s, were medicine balls by comparison to those used today - Messi and Ronaldo would not be the same players if they had to used them!
Kanes record is better and could easily beat Ali Daeis record
Ronaldo 98 goals in 163 games Kane 31 goals in 44 games
I'd bet good money that he won't even get close.
Only 3 players in history have got more than 80. Ali Daei who used to bang in about 15 goals during every Iran qualifying campaign against teams like Guam and Cambodia, Ronaldo who is a freak, and Puskas who played at a time when Hungary were incredible.
Let's say Kane stays fit and scores 9-10 a year over the next 4 years. He'd have around 70 goals at the age of 30. He'd still need another forty goals! He'd have to be our first choice centre forward until he was at least 35 to have a chance. It won't happen. Ronaldo is a freak of nature, never gets injured, has the body/fitness of a player much younger, is 35 in a few months and even he is still 12 goals off the record. Kane won't get near it.
If he stays fit (which is a big if) then the current player apart from Ronaldo, likely to get closest to it is Neymar. 61 goals at the age of 27. But with the players Brazil produce it's likely he won't play anywhere near long enough to break it.
Kanes record is better and could easily beat Ali Daeis record
Ronaldo 98 goals in 163 games Kane 31 goals in 44 games
Kane P-290 GS-176 0.60 GPG
Ronaldo P-983 GS-705 0.71 GPG
Let's see if Kane can overtake Ronaldo in the next 8 years shall we? Kane's record appears better if Ronaldo had always played as a striker, but we all know the majority of his career, he has been dominating games from the wings.
He's only converted to a striker really in his 30's as his pace slowed down a bit. (Still faster than most)
I still fail to believe people don't class him as a freak. He is just unbelievable.
He's maybe not the most likeable chap but he is undeniably one of the all time greats. We have been so lucky to have him and Messi playing at the same time
I still fail to believe people don't class him as a freak. He is just unbelievable.
He's maybe not the most likeable chap but he is undeniably one of the all time greats. We have been so lucky to have him and Messi playing at the same time
To be fair, he does seem to have a certain arrogance about him but given that he actually really is just that good then it's hard to hold it against him.
He is truly phenomenal. And he's worked both very hard and very smartly to change his game and his role to stay a step ahead of everyone who is not Messi.
I still fail to believe people don't class him as a freak. He is just unbelievable.
He's maybe not the most likeable chap but he is undeniably one of the all time greats. We have been so lucky to have him and Messi playing at the same time
People always talk about Messi like he's the best, whilst he is phenomenal he's had the Barcelona side built around him since day one.
Ronaldo has done it for Sporting Man U
Madrid
Juventus
When will Messi ever prove himself elsewhere? Ronaldo has had to adjust to different leagues.
Messi could do it for any of these clubs. I like Ronaldo but Messi is just on another planet. I don't think it takes anything away from him he's been at one club - and at a point arguably the best team in the world
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I can see him playing for Portual until the 2022 World Cup, he'll definitely want to break Ali Daei's record.
Maradona
pele
ronaldo
Messi
that order
For example there could be 10 world class strikers, but they can't all get into a world XI.
Messi
Maradona
Pele
That order
This was an era when Hungary defeated England 6-3 and 7-1. What is without debate is that skill such as Puskas's drag back to dump the England captain, Billy Wright, on his backside, his awareness and finish would be considered "world class" even nowadays:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/ferenc-puskas-with-brilliant-drag-back-to-send-billy-news-footage/1B27653_0020
I've mellowed to the extent that I think players like Puskas, Maradona and Pele would have adapted. And footballs, such as those used in the '50s, were medicine balls by comparison to those used today - Messi and Ronaldo would not be the same players if they had to used them!
His last 58 international goals have come in just 62 games. Incredible.
Ronaldo 98 goals in 163 games
Kane 31 goals in 44 games
Only 3 players in history have got more than 80. Ali Daei who used to bang in about 15 goals during every Iran qualifying campaign against teams like Guam and Cambodia, Ronaldo who is a freak, and Puskas who played at a time when Hungary were incredible.
Let's say Kane stays fit and scores 9-10 a year over the next 4 years. He'd have around 70 goals at the age of 30. He'd still need another forty goals! He'd have to be our first choice centre forward until he was at least 35 to have a chance. It won't happen. Ronaldo is a freak of nature, never gets injured, has the body/fitness of a player much younger, is 35 in a few months and even he is still 12 goals off the record. Kane won't get near it.
If he stays fit (which is a big if) then the current player apart from Ronaldo, likely to get closest to it is Neymar. 61 goals at the age of 27. But with the players Brazil produce it's likely he won't play anywhere near long enough to break it.
P-290 GS-176
0.60 GPG
Ronaldo
P-983 GS-705
0.71 GPG
Let's see if Kane can overtake Ronaldo in the next 8 years shall we? Kane's record appears better if Ronaldo had always played as a striker, but we all know the majority of his career, he has been dominating games from the wings.
He's only converted to a striker really in his 30's as his pace slowed down a bit. (Still faster than most)
300 goals in 326 games
He's maybe not the most likeable chap but he is undeniably one of the all time greats. We have been so lucky to have him and Messi playing at the same time
He is truly phenomenal. And he's worked both very hard and very smartly to change his game and his role to stay a step ahead of everyone who is not Messi.
876 club games, 170 for his country. He made his debut for Portugal in 2003 and is still playing for them
Ronaldo has done it for
Sporting
Man U
When will Messi ever prove himself elsewhere? Ronaldo has had to adjust to different leagues.
Messi always goes missing for Argentina in the big games.