Gerrard was unbelievable for Liverpool, but like you say he was very poor for England - in fact I can't recall him having a good game.
Never really forgave him for his continual whingeing about being played wide left and wide right etc, totally ignoring the fact that a number of great players of his generation (Zidane, Nedved. Iniesta) all basically played from wide midfield areas - but didn't necessarily stay there.
Kind if epitomised the English footballers mentality of that era.
'66 for me so let's start with that team and see if we can improve it, playing 4-4-2
Banks Cohen Moore Charlton J - Ferdinand Wilson - Pearce Ball - Gasgoine Stiles Charlton R Peters Hurst - Greaves Hunt - Shearer
I'd like Scholes instead of Stiles and probably Rooney instead of Hurst but I don't think the team midfield is balanced and I'm not convinced Shearer and Rooney would work together.
'66 for me so let's start with that team and see if we can improve it, playing 4-4-2
Banks Cohen Moore Charlton J - Ferdinand Wilson - Pearce Ball - Gasgoine Stiles Charlton R Peters Hurst - Greaves Hunt - Shearer
I'd like Scholes instead of Stiles and probably Rooney instead of Hurst but I don't think the team midfield is balanced and I'm not convinced Shearer and Rooney would work together.
This thread is all about opinion.
Like you, being the vintage I am, I too would start with the 1966 team.
However in my view I don't know how the only man to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final can be dropped from a 'best ever seen' side.
Couldn't bring myself to pick Lampard or Gerrad as they did absolute f*ck all for England when it mattered.
You don't think Lampard scoring the goal that VAR would have given its blessing to, to make it 2-2 and England could have then parked 2 buses and taken the game to extra time and we would've won on penalities against Germany. Surely that scenario would've occured and Lampard and Gerrard would also have scored in shootout. Heroes, the both of them in a parallel universe.
'66 for me so let's start with that team and see if we can improve it, playing 4-4-2
Banks Cohen Moore Charlton J - Ferdinand Wilson - Pearce Ball - Gasgoine Stiles Charlton R Peters Hurst - Greaves Hunt - Shearer
I'd like Scholes instead of Stiles and probably Rooney instead of Hurst but I don't think the team midfield is balanced and I'm not convinced Shearer and Rooney would work together.
It's an interesting one, trying to improve on 66. Ferdinand is a better player than Jackie. But the combination of Moore and Jack worked as they had different attributes.
I hadn't realised that Roger Hunt was easily our top scorer after the group stage with 3 goals, but as he never scored in the knock out matches he's slightly overlooked! Indeed in 6 matches, we only had 4 different goalscorers.
Comments
You having a laugh.
Seaman
Ferdinand Campbell Adams
Trippier Beckham Ince Scholes Cole
Owen Shearer
Seaman
Trippier
Butcher
Adams
Pearce
Beckham
Scholes
Gascoigne
Waddle
Shearer
Lineker
Seaman (Will be Pickford one day)
G Neville Adams Terry A Cole
Ince Gerrard
Beckham Scholes Gazza
Shearer
Seaman
Neville Adams Ferdinand Pearce
Beckham Gazza Robson Waddle
Lineker Shearer
Back three: Luke Young tbc Chris Powell
Midfield: Lee Bowyer Scott Parker John Barnes Paul Konchesky John Salako
Forwards: Darren Bent tbc
Seaman
Neville Butcher Ferdinand Cole
Beckham Gazza Robson Waddle
Sheringham Lineker
I've gone for Sheringham as I think he'd work better with Lineker than Shearer would.
Banks
Adams Moore Butcher
Robson
Beckham Charlton Gascoigne Sansom
Shearer Greaves
G Neville
Ferdinand
Adams
Pearce
Beckham
Gerrard
Scholes
Gazza
Shearer
Sheringham
I'll have Pope and Gomez. But Defoe doesn't qualify.
Neville, Ferdinand, Adams, Cole
Mcmanaman, Ince, Scholes, Gazza
Shearer, Owen
I've picked McManaman on euro 96 form, which I suppose isn't what was asked for
This is based on ability and character, and not necessarily their own performance's in the WC.
Shilton
Neville Ferdinand Butcher Pearce
Robson
Gascoigne Hoddle
Scholes
Shearer Lineker
Few sentimental picks on there, and a week or so ago I probably wouldn't have had Glen Hoddle in the team.
However I was watching some old games the other day, and realised that I had forgotten what a great player he was.
Never really forgave him for his continual whingeing about being played wide left and wide right etc, totally ignoring the fact that a number of great players of his generation (Zidane, Nedved. Iniesta) all basically played from wide midfield areas - but didn't necessarily stay there.
Kind if epitomised the English footballers mentality of that era.
My team:
Banks
Cohen
Charlton J
Moore
Wilson
Ball
Styles
Peters
Charlton R
Hurst
Hunt
G.Neville Ferdinand Moore Cooper
Scholes Gazza Hudson B Charlton
Shearer Greaves
(Hudson should of had 80 caps for England but Revie who hated Chelsea players dropped Alan Hudson after he was MOM against Germany)
Banks
Cohen
Moore
Adams
Pearce
Robson
Gascoigne
Beckham
Charlton
Hurst
Lineker
Banks
Cohen
Moore
Ferdinand
Sansom
Scholes
Stiles
Charlton
Gascoigne
Finney
Hurst
Banks
Cohen
Moore
Charlton J - Ferdinand
Wilson - Pearce
Ball - Gasgoine
Stiles
Charlton R
Peters
Hurst - Greaves
Hunt - Shearer
I'd like Scholes instead of Stiles and probably Rooney instead of Hurst but I don't think the team midfield is balanced and I'm not convinced Shearer and Rooney would work together.
Like you, being the vintage I am, I too would start with the 1966 team.
However in my view I don't know how the only man to score a hat-trick in a World Cup Final can be dropped from a 'best ever seen' side.
#justsaying
Surely that scenario would've occured and Lampard and Gerrard would also have scored in shootout.
Heroes, the both of them in a parallel universe.
I hadn't realised that Roger Hunt was easily our top scorer after the group stage with 3 goals, but as he never scored in the knock out matches he's slightly overlooked! Indeed in 6 matches, we only had 4 different goalscorers.