I guess that is the difference with Fosu: Where Morgan has taken on board what Bowyer has said, Fosu and Bowyer never saw eye to eye and he had to seek pastures new. I did predict he would play again in the championship even if it was via Oxford to Brentford.
Back then, we would read stuff about how Bowyer was frustrated with Fosu; how the player hadn't looked after himself in the close season and then got injured in a pre-season friendly game having failed to do a proper warm-up.
To Bowyer, surely he was aghast at how unprofessional that was - and in his classic phrase, "I'm not having it".
Then Fosu recovered from missing 6 weeks of injury, to come on as a late sub at Southend, got clattered and retaliated, sent off for fighting. Suspended for 3 games. Bow obviously saw a player who's head is not in the right place.
Fosu only played a bit part of a squad player after that - and I don't believe featured at all in our tremendous run in to Wembley and promotion. You can only think despite Fosu's undoubted ability, Bowyer had completely washed his hands of him long before then.
Bowyer has done a brilliant job, but in that case to me that's more of a Bowyer failure than a Fosu one, seeing that he went to Oxford, made an immediate impact and earned a move to Brentford 6 months later. Indeed he's started the last 2 matches for Brentford
Good for Fosu, if he's turned it around.
Although if you've got a player in the camp who feels he doesn't have to bother about his fitness, off ball team work, ill discipline, etc ..... what sort of message does that convey to the rest of the squad?
Bowyer is the boss. Players have to do it his way, be professional and committed - or move on. It can't be any other way or a manager's authority is soon undermined.
If Fosu had dropped down the leagues and taken 3 years to return to a decent level, that would suggest that the player had issues which he had to sort out.
In this case though, 6 months after leaving Charlton he joined a BETTER team than us, one with a brilliant record in the transfer market of buying players and selling on for a profit.
I guess that is the difference with Fosu: Where Morgan has taken on board what Bowyer has said, Fosu and Bowyer never saw eye to eye and he had to seek pastures new. I did predict he would play again in the championship even if it was via Oxford to Brentford.
Back then, we would read stuff about how Bowyer was frustrated with Fosu; how the player hadn't looked after himself in the close season and then got injured in a pre-season friendly game having failed to do a proper warm-up.
To Bowyer, surely he was aghast at how unprofessional that was - and in his classic phrase, "I'm not having it".
Then Fosu recovered from missing 6 weeks of injury, to come on as a late sub at Southend, got clattered and retaliated, sent off for fighting. Suspended for 3 games. Bow obviously saw a player who's head is not in the right place.
Fosu only played a bit part of a squad player after that - and I don't believe featured at all in our tremendous run in to Wembley and promotion. You can only think despite Fosu's undoubted ability, Bowyer had completely washed his hands of him long before then.
Bowyer has done a brilliant job, but in that case to me that's more of a Bowyer failure than a Fosu one, seeing that he went to Oxford, made an immediate impact and earned a move to Brentford 6 months later. Indeed he's started the last 2 matches for Brentford
Good for Fosu, if he's turned it around.
Although if you've got a player in the camp who feels he doesn't have to bother about his fitness, off ball team work, ill discipline, etc ..... what sort of message does that convey to the rest of the squad?
Bowyer is the boss. Players have to do it his way, be professional and committed - or move on. It can't be any other way or a manager's authority is soon undermined.
If Fosu had dropped down the leagues and taken 3 years to return to a decent level, that would suggest that the player had issues which he had to sort out.
In this case though, 6 months after leaving Charlton he joined a BETTER team than us, one with a brilliant record in the transfer market of buying players and selling on for a profit.
You could equally argue that a player of his abilty should have been a key player of a team winning promotion. And could therefore have had a quicker opportunity to play in the Championship with Charlton.
Instead he was signed by his old Charlton manager Robinson, staying in the Third Division with Oxford. Robinson of course had in inside track on his old club and was ready to pounce on a talented player who had lost his way - and we know Fosu had lost his way at Charlton by his too many substandard performances when he was called upon.
Fosu made a good start at Oxford - and when he played well, Oxford played well.
If he'd left Charlton and signed for Brentford straightaway, I could see your point. But he didn't, in effect he dropped a level when at Oxford, where he spent 6 months in a lower League.
And as I said previously: "Good for Fosu if he's turned it round".
he's got more natural ability than frank lampard - what lampard had was a great brain and immense stamina to keep getting in the box, and of course was a great finisher - the most talented players often fall by the wayside and those with the brains and stamina go on to have the careers - if he can keep this work rate up now then there is no reason why he won't have a great career from what i can see
Albie is going to be a very good player but more natural ability than one of the greatest midfielders this country has produced? Come on.
i don't think lampard was a great midfielder as such but he was great at scoring goals from midfield - he was no zinedine zidane or paul gascoigne thats for sure
I guess that is the difference with Fosu: Where Morgan has taken on board what Bowyer has said, Fosu and Bowyer never saw eye to eye and he had to seek pastures new. I did predict he would play again in the championship even if it was via Oxford to Brentford.
Back then, we would read stuff about how Bowyer was frustrated with Fosu; how the player hadn't looked after himself in the close season and then got injured in a pre-season friendly game having failed to do a proper warm-up.
To Bowyer, surely he was aghast at how unprofessional that was - and in his classic phrase, "I'm not having it".
Then Fosu recovered from missing 6 weeks of injury, to come on as a late sub at Southend, got clattered and retaliated, sent off for fighting. Suspended for 3 games. Bow obviously saw a player who's head is not in the right place.
Fosu only played a bit part of a squad player after that - and I don't believe featured at all in our tremendous run in to Wembley and promotion. You can only think despite Fosu's undoubted ability, Bowyer had completely washed his hands of him long before then.
Bowyer has done a brilliant job, but in that case to me that's more of a Bowyer failure than a Fosu one, seeing that he went to Oxford, made an immediate impact and earned a move to Brentford 6 months later. Indeed he's started the last 2 matches for Brentford
Good for Fosu, if he's turned it around.
Although if you've got a player in the camp who feels he doesn't have to bother about his fitness, off ball team work, ill discipline, etc ..... what sort of message does that convey to the rest of the squad?
Bowyer is the boss. Players have to do it his way, be professional and committed - or move on. It can't be any other way or a manager's authority is soon undermined.
agreed although i think it was because he was so important to us and such a good player that LB got so frustrated by him - should have handled it differently in my opinion - we could really have done with fosu over the last few years - i have a feeling he and taylor didnt get on which may also have been a factor in him getting bombed out
There is space amongst the bandwagon for some of you to jump on the Albie bandwagon I have stood strong on throughout. But you must repeal your sins and admit your mistakes.
I guess that is the difference with Fosu: Where Morgan has taken on board what Bowyer has said, Fosu and Bowyer never saw eye to eye and he had to seek pastures new. I did predict he would play again in the championship even if it was via Oxford to Brentford.
Back then, we would read stuff about how Bowyer was frustrated with Fosu; how the player hadn't looked after himself in the close season and then got injured in a pre-season friendly game having failed to do a proper warm-up.
To Bowyer, surely he was aghast at how unprofessional that was - and in his classic phrase, "I'm not having it".
Then Fosu recovered from missing 6 weeks of injury, to come on as a late sub at Southend, got clattered and retaliated, sent off for fighting. Suspended for 3 games. Bow obviously saw a player who's head is not in the right place.
Fosu only played a bit part of a squad player after that - and I don't believe featured at all in our tremendous run in to Wembley and promotion. You can only think despite Fosu's undoubted ability, Bowyer had completely washed his hands of him long before then.
Bowyer has done a brilliant job, but in that case to me that's more of a Bowyer failure than a Fosu one, seeing that he went to Oxford, made an immediate impact and earned a move to Brentford 6 months later. Indeed he's started the last 2 matches for Brentford
Good for Fosu, if he's turned it around.
Although if you've got a player in the camp who feels he doesn't have to bother about his fitness, off ball team work, ill discipline, etc ..... what sort of message does that convey to the rest of the squad?
Bowyer is the boss. Players have to do it his way, be professional and committed - or move on. It can't be any other way or a manager's authority is soon undermined.
agreed although i think it was because he was so important to us and such a good player that LB got so frustrated by him - should have handled it differently in my opinion - we could really have done with fosu over the last few years - i have a feeling he and taylor didnt get on which may also have been a factor in him getting bombed out
The second half of 2018/19 after Karlan was sold, should have been the time for Fosu for shine under Bowyer, but it never happened (and I'm sure Fosu is to blame as well)
A fit and motivated Fosu would have been light years ahead of Josh Parker!
He’s come on leaps and bounds in the last month or so.
As others have said, maybe the fact that no league clubs wanted him was the kick up the backside he needed. If I was in his shoes it would’ve made me take a look at myself and think “maybe Bowyer’s right”.
I really didn’t think he was likely to make the grade towards the back end of last season and the start of this. He generally came across as talented but a bit lazy / unwilling to do the dirty work that comes with playing in midfield - the penalty at home to Reading where he didn’t track his runner immediately springs to mind.
It seems he’s finally getting his head down and working on rounding out his game which is excellent news.
What you can't do is ask a player to improve his ability. Morgan always had bags of that. What Bowyer was asking him to do was achievable. Credit to him for doing it though. Personally, I can see him getting better and better.
My 2 pence worth on this is that I think Adkins has come in and based his teams around athleticism. He’s talked about wanting to Steam Roller opposition. If Albie has one area where he could look to improve it is in this department.
No denying his ability and I really hope we can see him back in the Charlton shirt before the end of the season, but we can’t criticise Adkins for not changing a winning team after getting so irate with Bowyer for all his chopping and changing.
My 2 pence worth on this is that I think Adkins has come in and based his teams around athleticism. He’s talked about wanting to Steam Roller opposition. If Albie has one area where he could look to improve it is in this department.
No denying his ability and I really hope we can see him back in the Charlton shirt before the end of the season, but we can’t criticise Adkins for not changing a winning team after getting so irate with Bowyer for all his chopping and changing.
I agree, i'm not suggesting to change a winning team unless of course necessary but i think he should be on the bench. Especially if Ronnie comes on Albie can create chances by putting the ball past the back four. Then again i haven't seen enough of Ronnie to say if he has any pace to get to those balls. Washington yeah, Ronnie not sure yet.
I can see he has a lot of ability and I think we need to see his shooting improve, his involvement and passing over a number of games. I say that, because shooting and passing are clearly strengths of his and it is where his next step lies. But it is still a step, he isn't on it yet despite improvements. I back him to get there. A player like Morgan could target the Premier League so being satisfied at where he is would not be his right approach.
If Morgan's 5th it must be keeping the ball on the pitch (sorry Albie). Actually the bigger issue I have is that he "floats" the corner so it makes it difficult to get power on headers.
Was gonna say; how many of Cookes corners were short and straight off the training ground? Not knocking him, but I think these "stats" are sometimes little more than over analysing.
Comments
In this case though, 6 months after leaving Charlton he joined a BETTER team than us, one with a brilliant record in the transfer market of buying players and selling on for a profit.
And could therefore have had a quicker opportunity to play in the Championship with Charlton.
Instead he was signed by his old Charlton manager Robinson, staying in the Third Division with Oxford.
Robinson of course had in inside track on his old club and was ready to pounce on a talented player who had lost his way - and we know Fosu had lost his way at Charlton by his too many substandard performances when he was called upon.
Fosu made a good start at Oxford - and when he played well, Oxford played well.
If he'd left Charlton and signed for Brentford straightaway, I could see your point.
But he didn't, in effect he dropped a level when at Oxford, where he spent 6 months in a lower League.
And as I said previously: "Good for Fosu if he's turned it round".
Sweet!
A fit and motivated Fosu would have been light years ahead of Josh Parker!
I really didn’t think he was likely to make the grade towards the back end of last season and the start of this. He generally came across as talented but a bit lazy / unwilling to do the dirty work that comes with playing in midfield - the penalty at home to Reading where he didn’t track his runner immediately springs to mind.
It seems he’s finally getting his head down and working on rounding out his game which is excellent news.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/lockdown-was-a-huge-chance-to-boost-my-charlton-career-prospects-albie-morgan-on-the-hard-graft-put-in-to-become-a-regular-starter/
No denying his ability and I really hope we can see him back in the Charlton shirt before the end of the season, but we can’t criticise Adkins for not changing a winning team after getting so irate with Bowyer for all his chopping and changing.
Bradford on the other hand have only had 35-corners so Callum Cooke's stat is pretty impressive
Actually the bigger issue I have is that he "floats" the corner so it makes it difficult to get power on headers.
Bradford take short corners