6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.
Yes I saw it. If I were in charge I'd round up everyone carrying a knife without a valid reason. Then I'd put them and their knives in an enormous locked area, perhaps the size of Greenwich Park and leave them to it. I'd give it a few weeks and hopefully the problem would all be sorted
Two kids from each postcode, live broadcast, only the winner gets out alive.
Yep, one at Forest Hill Station on Monday, school kids at leaving time.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.
6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.
The connection with school leaving time is what worries me. Woolwich town centre between 2.30 and 4 is not a nice place to be.
Meat wagon stationed outside Croydon McDonalds every day now at school kick out time. Rumours were they wanted to install a metal detector too
we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
I agree. Bexleyheath Broadway is a hell hole when the kids turn out. Was lively 20 years ago, but nothing like the atmosphere it is now.
At the same time, my nieces/nephews and their friends are a lot more liberal than most of the people i knew and was at that age.
we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
Whilst not the whole story you can't ignore the major effects the cuts have had on this.
we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
Whilst not the whole story you can't ignore the major effects the cuts have had on this.
completely agree they cannot be ignored but to simply lie the blame of this type of cuntish behaviour on the closure of youth clubs, less police and single parent families is also completely ridiculous.
we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
I agree. Bexleyheath Broadway is a hell hole when the kids turn out. Was lively 20 years ago, but nothing like the atmosphere it is now.
At the same time, my nieces/nephews and their friends are a lot more liberal than most of the people i knew and was at that age.
always used to be school on school fights, but this is punches etc and no one was that badly hurt - now knifes are used and its a sad state of affairs.
Yep, one at Forest Hill Station on Monday, school kids at leaving time.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.
That's quite an easy one to answer. The results of said legislation would paint a very uncomfortable, additional, layer of figures that would be used, not to understand the reasons or catalysts, but to claim that the legislation was only introduced to target certain demographics of society.
Similar has been played out on various debates over the years and it's one that will continue to only be discussed.
6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.
The connection with school leaving time is what worries me. Woolwich town centre between 2.30 and 4 is not a nice place to be.
Yep, one at Forest Hill Station on Monday, school kids at leaving time.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.
That's quite an easy one to answer. The results of said legislation would paint a very uncomfortable, additional, layer of figures that would be used, not to understand the reasons or catalysts, but to claim that the legislation was only introduced to target certain demographics of society.
Similar has been played out on various debates over the years and it's one that will continue to only be discussed.
I’d hope that if taken in context, people would look at any legislation enacted as being totallly inkeeping with a short term need to do something to try and stop this happening. For me, that frequency and ferocity at which these attacks now happen are in the same league as acid attacks, the only difference being the amount of fatalities.
it went beyond a national shame a long time ago. I’m all for hearing and introducing long term counter measures involving education, inclusion and money into policing. But I’m equally for what we have at our disposal to try and stop this now.
The knife epidemic is exactly the same as the shootings that go on in the U.S. I’m proud of our gun laws over here, but knives are doing just as much damage at the moment as shootings are (comparatively speaking). We needed to enact something yesterday. It can’t go on
if parties are worried about the political repercussions and how it plays out to those that are more liberally minded, I don’t see anyone rushing to condone Jacinda Arden when she banned assault rifles and tightened their gun laws. That was (among other things), great leadership.
i know assault rifles are very different, but a weapon is a weapon and a life lost is a life lost regardless of whether it’s one or several at one time
I personally wouldn’t attach any political leanings on this either way. Wouldn’t care if the legislation was put forward by Tory, UKIP or labour or the DUP. Just want some assertive short term sign something will be done
6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.
The connection with school leaving time is what worries me. Woolwich town centre between 2.30 and 4 is not a nice place to be.
Was it ever?
It would seem older teens are grooming younger kids for a life of crime in Powis Street and Hare Street and around General Gordon Square.
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
sorry to hear this, this is what pisses me off - they single handedly ruin someones life by being a good nothing but the gallows tramp and get to roam free.
Nothing will change until the black community get rid of their "bro's" & "hoods" type mentality. Disgusting that a criminal straight out of jail for serving time carrying a knife is hero worshiped. Nothing to do with austerity.
This is why it's a catch 22 problem. If Police stop and search Black young folk, 13 to 30, they are said to be picking on them. Yet Black on Black knife crime whether Drug or gang related have been going up and getting worse over the last 30 years.
Then Drake treats this guy like a hero.
Show graphic pictures in primary schools of the dead youngsters of knife crimes. Ask black and mixed race film, TV, and sport stars to help to spread the word and give back to deter the next generation about the evils of knife crime and the gang and postcode wars.
May already be too late to expect a seismic change in attitudes of the 13 to 30 age group but to carry on like this is crazy.
PS, I know it's not just a black problem BUT the high percentage of black on black or mixed race don't lie.
This is why it's a catch 22 problem. If Police stop and search Black young folk, 13 to 30, they are said to be picking on them. Yet Black on Black knife crime whether Drug or gang related have been going up and getting worse over the last 30 years.
Then Drake treats this guy like a hero.
Show graphic pictures in primary schools of the dead youngsters of knife crimes. Asked black and mixed race film, TV, and sport stars to help to spread the word and give back to deter the next generation about the evils of knife crime and the gang and postcode wars.
May already be too late to expect a seismic change in attitudes of the 13 to 30 age group but to carry on like this is crazy.
PS, I know it's not just a black problem BUT the high percentage of black on black or mixed race don't lie.
You’ve only gotta look at the response to the first tweet in that article criticising that singer. ‘Yeah but what about Jagger and drug culture. White people blah blah blah’. The blame culture needs eradicating, it’s always someone else’s fault.
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
Why don’t you track him down and punch his f’ing lights out?
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
Just reading the Secret Barrister book, he/she spills the beans on our criminal justice system and explains why so many cases keep getting delayed like this. One of those books everyone needs to read - bit of an eye opener
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
Just reading the Secret Barrister book, he/she spills the beans on our criminal justice system and explains why so many cases keep getting delayed like this. One of those books everyone needs to read - bit of an eye opener
Yup, definitely worth reading ... it’s a revelation for things like the above.
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
Why don’t you track him down and punch his f’ing lights out?
My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in
Why don’t you track him down and punch his f’ing lights out?
Because he’ll probably get stabbed!
Not if you give him no chance to use a knife......there’s such a thing as a sucker punch when needed, he wouldn’t see it coming.
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Two kids from each postcode, live broadcast, only the winner gets out alive.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.
Kill someone and you will be told you're a very naughty boy.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
At the same time, my nieces/nephews and their friends are a lot more liberal than most of the people i knew and was at that age.
Similar has been played out on various debates over the years and it's one that will continue to only be discussed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34609790
it went beyond a national shame a long time ago. I’m all for hearing and introducing long term counter measures involving education, inclusion and money into policing. But I’m equally for what we have at our disposal to try and stop this now.
The knife epidemic is exactly the same as the shootings that go on in the U.S. I’m proud of our gun laws over here, but knives are doing just as much damage at the moment as shootings are (comparatively speaking). We needed to enact something yesterday. It can’t go on
if parties are worried about the political repercussions and how it plays out to those that are more liberally minded, I don’t see anyone rushing to condone Jacinda Arden when she banned assault rifles and tightened their gun laws. That was (among other things), great leadership.
i know assault rifles are very different, but a weapon is a weapon and a life lost is a life lost regardless of whether it’s one or several at one time
I personally wouldn’t attach any political leanings on this either way. Wouldn’t care if the legislation was put forward by Tory, UKIP or labour or the DUP. Just want some assertive short term sign something will be done
4th time been caught with a knife.
Imprisoned for 8 months and out in less than 4.
Then celebrated on stage like a hero.
If Police stop and search Black young folk, 13 to 30, they are said to be picking on them. Yet Black on Black knife crime whether Drug or gang related have been going up and getting worse over the last 30 years.
Then Drake treats this guy like a hero.
Show graphic pictures in primary schools of the dead youngsters of knife crimes. Ask black and mixed race film, TV, and sport stars to help to spread the word and give back to deter the next generation about the evils of knife crime and the gang and postcode wars.
May already be too late to expect a seismic change in attitudes of the 13 to 30 age group but to carry on like this is crazy.
PS, I know it's not just a black problem BUT the high percentage of black on black or mixed race don't lie.