What is the alternate solution referred to out of interest?
Not sure what CASDA suggest but last season the East Stand disabled area was opened although the stand itself was closed.
That does mean that there need to be various stewards (one for the gate, one for the stand plus a specialist disability supervisor) and the fans like to have a refreshment trolley which isn't straightforward as everything else in the stand is closed.
The quadrants aren't seen as an option as they need stewards and a lift engineer.
It comes down to money, as ever with the club at present. They might lose money as relatively few wheelchair users (like fans in general) will attend minor cup games or early FA Cup games but the minimum stewarding requirements, for legal and safety reasons, and so costs, remain the same.
But as that the regime have thrown away any remaining good will and senior management can only see £££££ I don't know where we go from here.
What is the alternate solution referred to out of interest?
CADSA are planning to pay for a few covered wheelchair spaces provided they can raise sufficient funding.
As in a permanent change to the spaces in front of the west stand ? I didn’t know if it was just perhaps to pay for the necessary stewarding on this occasion. Good luck. Hope it’s succesful.
What is the alternate solution referred to out of interest?
Not sure what CASDA suggest but last season the East Stand disabled area was opened although the stand itself was closed.
That does mean that there need to be various stewards (one for the gate, one for the stand plus a specialist disability supervisor) and the fans like to have a refreshment trolley which isn't straightforward as everything else in the stand is closed.
The quadrants aren't seen as an option as they need stewards and a lift engineer.
It comes down to money, as ever with the club at present. They might lose money as relatively few wheelchair users (like fans in general) will attend minor cup games or early FA Cup games but the minimum stewarding requirements, for legal and safety reasons, and so costs, remain the same.
But as that the regime have thrown away any remaining good will and senior management can only see £££££ I don't know where we go from here.
What is the alternate solution referred to out of interest?
CADSA are planning to pay for a few covered wheelchair spaces provided they can raise sufficient funding.
As in a permanent change to the spaces in front of the west stand ? I didn’t know if it was just perhaps to pay for the necessary stewarding on this occasion. Good luck. Hope it’s succesful.
It's weird, during Saturday's game I was thinking to myself "at least this club still seems to do access for disabled supporters well" (that's my impression from being to matches and watching them anyway). A couple days later and here we are. Awful.
I hope that, if a solution is found, it doesn't include a single penny being paid to the club. It would be great if this could be solved without any payment to RD and without him being able to gain any credit.
I don't understand how this isn't illegal under the equalities act.
I absolutely agree - and even if not illegal it is most certainly immoral.
I think ROT may have just found an item for their next leaflet, to follow on from the non-payment of staff bonuses. Mind you, they are spoilt for choice at the moment. I wonder how Rubbershoes will spin this one?
Be interested to know the demand for wheelchair spaces at the Checkatrade nonsense.
It’s worth noting that the cost of opening an existing covered area for cup matches is shared between Charlton, the visiting club and the pool, assuming revenue exceeds costs. That would mean Charlton only pay 45 per cent of the cost. On that basis the saving might be £200? Not really worth the PR hit.
Don’t care if this affects 200 or 2 people it’s utterly despicable. We used to be the Club that people looked up to for various reasons not limited to but including issues regarding disabilities but now we are a disgrace.
I don't understand how this isn't illegal under the equalities act.
Places are being provided, but not under cover
Yes, so does that not amount to discrimination in terms of access to equivalent facilities? I mean is it reasonable to decline to offer the option of covered space if that is on offer to those who are not wheelchair users?
roly really does demonstrate a winning combination of sociopathy and business idiocy there's no guarantee of more than 2 home cup games, even including the pointless competition; attendances will be miniscule, so how anyone can quantify a "saving" is baffling. With the prospect of saving no money at all he picks on a disadvantaged group. It's as though he actively seeks opprobrium and hate. Is that masochism, munchausen's syndrome or wickedness? All the best to CADSA in circumventing this latest transgression.
The 'like' was nailed on once I saw the use of "opprobrium ".
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That does mean that there need to be various stewards (one for the gate, one for the stand plus a specialist disability supervisor) and the fans like to have a refreshment trolley which isn't straightforward as everything else in the stand is closed.
The quadrants aren't seen as an option as they need stewards and a lift engineer.
It comes down to money, as ever with the club at present. They might lose money as relatively few wheelchair users (like fans in general) will attend minor cup games or early FA Cup games but the minimum stewarding requirements, for legal and safety reasons, and so costs, remain the same.
But as that the regime have thrown away any remaining good will and senior management can only see £££££ I don't know where we go from here.
In the meantime, we could consider sending a Charlton Life team to the quiz night in November if any of you are interested.
It's an absolute disgrace.
I think ROT may have just found an item for their next leaflet, to follow on from the non-payment of staff bonuses. Mind you, they are spoilt for choice at the moment. I wonder how Rubbershoes will spin this one?
It’s worth noting that the cost of opening an existing covered area for cup matches is shared between Charlton, the visiting club and the pool, assuming revenue exceeds costs. That would mean Charlton only pay 45 per cent of the cost. On that basis the saving might be £200? Not really worth the PR hit.
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Hopefully I can get this to you tomorrow.
I’ll inbox you in the morning
It's shitty, of course it is, but it's just par for the course I'm afraid.
This is what the club is right now. But still people accept it.....