It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
All that said, I'm sure gammon twitter has gone in to meltdown, hence Keith's post.
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
I'm okay.
As long as we have royalty we'll be spared an authoritarian President whether they be from the right or the left.
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
I'm okay.
As long as we have royalty we'll be spared an authoritarian President whether they be from the right or the left.
Let's hope that the anti Royalists and pro republic types don't get their own way.
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
I'm okay.
As long as we have royalty we'll be spared an authoritarian President whether they be from the right or the left.
Let's hope that the anti Royalists and pro republic types don't get their own way.
The least bad is sometimes the best we can aspire to.
This time it isn't about gammon or culture wars or whatever. Brazilian corruption is endemic; strange to see some people here prefer it with a side-order of unspeakably evil intent and planetary-scale ecological destruction
Although, you're right. That's exactly what people have said and clearly defined as wanting. Strange that they can't just come out and say what you know they want to say and support.
Are you sporting your ring of pineapple this morning?
This time it isn't about gammon or culture wars or whatever. Brazilian corruption is endemic; strange to see some people here prefer it with a side-order of unspeakably evil intent and planetary-scale ecological destruction
Not been following it mate. Take it from your last sentence this chap is for tearing down the rainforest? Poor if so.
I went to Brazil for my honeymoon back in 2012, remember returning to my hotel room on an island called Moro de Sao Paulao to find out Johnnie Jackson had scored against sheff wed with that free kick to give us a 1-0 win in our title winning season. A great country
This time it isn't about gammon or culture wars or whatever. Brazilian corruption is endemic; strange to see some people here prefer it with a side-order of unspeakably evil intent and planetary-scale ecological destruction
Take it from your last sentence this chap is for tearing down the rainforest? Poor if so.
This time it isn't about gammon or culture wars or whatever. Brazilian corruption is endemic; strange to see some people here prefer it with a side-order of unspeakably evil intent and planetary-scale ecological destruction
Take it from your last sentence this chap is for tearing down the rainforest? Poor if so.
This is probably understatement of the website
And I like how I used this thread to rekindle my memories of the 1-0 win at sheff wed that I missed. Probably not what you wanted when you opened the discussion
This time it isn't about gammon or culture wars or whatever. Brazilian corruption is endemic; strange to see some people here prefer it with a side-order of unspeakably evil intent and planetary-scale ecological destruction
Take it from your last sentence this chap is for tearing down the rainforest? Poor if so.
This is probably understatement of the website
And I like how I used this thread to rekindle my memories of the 1-0 win at sheff wed that I missed. Probably not what you wanted when you opened the discussion
No, that being the highlight of your honeymoon reflects the general mood of this thread
Let's wait for a while and see what happens .. Brazil as a society has been in a complete mess (and getting messier) for a long time .. The Brazilian people have decided a change at the top is needed
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
I'm okay.
As long as we have royalty we'll be spared an authoritarian President whether they be from the right or the left.
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
It would seem that the alternative was yet more corruption.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Will you be joining the delegation as per your suggestion?
Are you paying?
Maybe we could share a twin room.
It was your suggestion. You could represent SE London to discuss the voting.
How are you this morning young man?
I don't believe I know better than the Brazilians so wouldn't add anything to the London delegations posturing.
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
I'm okay.
As long as we have royalty we'll be spared an authoritarian President whether they be from the right or the left.
Like Ireland then. Or France.
I mean 'the possibility of' an authoritarian President. I'm no great fan of royalty but I could quite easily see the UK electing an authoritarian President.
When the status quo fails you get a reaction. Fail to control immigration - Brexit, Housing/inequality crisis - Corbyn? The Brazilian's wouldn't be voting for this guy if parties of the centre and left hadn't messed up the economy and lost control of law and order. When Bolsonaro in turn fails you can (and I'm sure will) cheer on the Brazilian Chavez to your heart's content.
Let's wait for a while and see what happens .. Brazil as a society has been in a complete mess (and getting messier) for a long time .. The Brazilian people have decided a change at the top is needed
Are you optimistic about a right wing authoritarian leader ? Just curious. Which ones do you think have been good examples in world history.
Brazil is obviously in a mess - that much is obvious.
It's not really a very surprising result though is it? Violent crime is extremely high in Brazil, and people there can't turn to their government to fix it because they're so corrupt. People are scared and Bolsonaro offers them hope that the things that directly affect them might change. The fact he's a horrible, hateful, dreadful little man is a very unfortunate part of it, and he will almost certainly make Brazil a worse place. The reality with populism is though that people will quite happily turn a blind eye to racism, sexism and homophobia if they're not immediately going to suffer for those views in exchange for a big change in their lives. They won't be so cheerful when Bolsonaro starts putting together his military regime and his views on torture and brutal prisons do become a reality for the voters, but hindsight won't help unelect him.
This is the time of extremes, and the logical people need to come up with a better plan than screeching at the voters that they're stupid for thinking the bad people can help them, because it's clearly not working.
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I imagine Trump will be a fan.
The Brazilians weren't exactly blessed with a raft of decent options.
Maybe they didn't know what they were voting for. I think sending a delegation from a little enclave in South East London, to tell them how they should have voted, can only be a good thing.
Start up the engines.
Maybe we could share a twin room.
All that said, I'm sure gammon twitter has gone in to meltdown, hence Keith's post.
Not sure how more gun are going to help...
I'll be watching what goes on through my fingers.
How are you this morning young man?
I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed today, thank you Hoofster. Yourself? Not as triggered as Keith by the sound of it
As long as we have royalty we'll be spared an authoritarian President whether they be from the right or the left.
Although, you're right. That's exactly what people have said and clearly defined as wanting. Strange that they can't just come out and say what you know they want to say and support.
Are you sporting your ring of pineapple this morning?
I went to Brazil for my honeymoon back in 2012, remember returning to my hotel room on an island called Moro de Sao Paulao to find out Johnnie Jackson had scored against sheff wed with that free kick to give us a 1-0 win in our title winning season. A great country
The options that they had to vote from both sounded absolutely horrendous.
The old Fun Boy Three song 'The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum' springs to mind.
It's a measure of how bad things are in Brazil that a guy like this can get elected.
I can't even begin to image who I'd vote for as president. Hoping the queen would run.
Brazil is obviously in a mess - that much is obvious.
This is the time of extremes, and the logical people need to come up with a better plan than screeching at the voters that they're stupid for thinking the bad people can help them, because it's clearly not working.