Villa looking to recall Steer next week (gone)
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Exactly.golfaddick said:All our own making I'm afraid. We've had loan goalkeeper after another. One day it was going to bite us on the bum. Be prepared for AMB playing tomorrow when Phillips gets sent off......
This is what we get for having too many loan signings, and particularly in a specialised position as the goalkeeper.
I feel sorry for Philips and the treatment he has been given over the years.
PS, I am all the more amazed that I have agreed with golfie, and I have not even had a drink. The times they are changing!5 -
johnny placide. at oldham last year had a half decent gane against us from memory. available on a free, cab imagine he would be cheap0
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just thought id have a look. seems oldham fans had in general good things to say aboyt him.CAFCDAZ said:johnny placide. at oldham last year had a half decent gane against us from memory. available on a free, cab imagine he would be cheap
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Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.1 -
The second paragraph sums things up nicely.SDAddick said:Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.
A geezer goes back to Villa and replaced with a geezer from f****** Chelmsford!2 -
He’s a loan player - always the risk, we can cry about it or we can get behind what we have not like we have an option1
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Phillips will improve the more he plays - neither Amos or Steer were particularly impressive in their first few games with us.SDAddick said:Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.2 -
True, he will. But Amos and Steer both have a much higher ceiling at this stage of their careers.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Phillips will improve the more he plays - neither Amos or Steer were particularly impressive in their first few games with us.SDAddick said:Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.1 -
a geezer from Charlton tbfElfsborgAddick said:
The second paragraph sums things up nicely.SDAddick said:Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.
A geezer goes back to Villa and replaced with a geezer from f****** Chelmsford!2 - Sponsored links:
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Forget the tbf, you know what I was talking about, I was exagerrating the point. Who am I to say? I don't attend now.Leuth said:
a geezer from Charlton tbfElfsborgAddick said:
The second paragraph sums things up nicely.SDAddick said:Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.
A geezer goes back to Villa and replaced with a geezer from f****** Chelmsford!
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Thought it might have been.....”Not a pub man.”1
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SDAddick said:
Going on Bowyer's comments, it sounds like Steer won't be back:
“I rang him yesterday and wished him all the best and thanked him. He’s a good lad and he’s definitely got a bright career in front of him. I had to thank him for his commitment and professionalism.”
“We’ve had to recall Ashley from Chelmsford. It’s a shame really, he’s been out playing men’s football and learning and he’s really enjoyed it and he’s done really well.
“This will just be until we get another keeper to come in and compete with Dills and then we’ll let Ash go back out on loan because it’s really important for him now."
I don't think this is all doom and gloom but I think Steer is a superior keeper to Phillips at this stage in their careers. I think he has a lot more of the subtle traits--distribution, good under crosses, commanding, and he seems to be better at organizing the defense. Plus, our defense, yes it's patchwork, has been playing with him behind them for a while now.
I think Phillips is an okay keeper at this level but he's still very raw. I have questions about his concentration, particularly with the goals against Sunderland and Gillingham. And I think we take for granted just how comfortable Steer is with the ball at his feet.
Obviously it sounds like we'll be getting someone else in. I just wonder if he's going to be as good as Steer.
What a no plan shambles of a club.
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I'm certainly in no way advocating he become first choice and I haven't seen him play apart from the few cup games he's featured in but between those and his feature on soccer AM AMB seemed a decent shot stopper at least.
Obviously we should be looking for another keeper but in the short term until then although it is not ideal for development, I can think of far worse goalkeepers to be sat on the bench.0 -
I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.2 - Sponsored links:
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So you'd have played someone in the most important place on the pitch, just because he's ours, despite having someone better available?NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.4 -
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Doubtful that would have happened either because any young player showing promise would be sold by RD.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.
I don't think you can really blame Bowyer for getting a better keeper in on loan.3 -
Let's just play the whole U23 team then and see if we can avoid relegation each season but hey at least we'll have 11 of our own on the pitch.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.
Sorry but while in L1 and Roland here the only thing I care about is getting back to The Championship ASAP.2 -
So you blame Bowyer for injuring a Villa goalkeeper. Nobody could have seen it coming. Steer is streets ahead of Phillips. Hopefully Andy Marshall is working on improving him as an all round keeper.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.2 -
A lot of our fans won't give Phillips a chance - I hope for his sake he gets a run in the team or is moved on.Crusty54 said:
So you blame Bowyer for injuring a Villa goalkeeper. Nobody could have seen it coming. Steer is streets ahead of Phillips. Hopefully Andy Marshall is working on improving him as an all round keeper.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.4 -
Sorry but Phillips' development is not more important than promotion/the whole club.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.
Crazy thinking.10 -
Phillips will do us a job, I was miffed when he was dropped at beginning of season as he hadn't done a lot wrong IMO.
Steer started shaky and this looked even more harsh dropping Phillips.
The last 10/12 games Steer has looked bloddy excellent, coming for crosses and corners has been brilliant and a couple of point blank saves.
Im gutted he's gone as I think he was starting to peak but Phillips will have my full support.4 -
We've got Steer back to fitness and lost him so you can criticise that. Are we now reliant on loan keepers? If Phillips doesn't play he won't improve - both Amos and Steer were rusty until they got a regular run in the side.Covered End said:
Sorry but Phillips' development is not more important than promotion/the whole club.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.
Crazy thinking.
If Phillips is so poor we should have sold him or put him out on loan.0 -
We might be a basketcase of a club, but we're not gonna leave ourselves without a backup keeper。hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
We've got Steer back to fitness and lost him so you can criticise that. Are we now reliant on loan keepers? If Phillips doesn't play he won't improve - both Amos and Steer were rusty until they got a regular run in the side.Covered End said:
Sorry but Phillips' development is not more important than promotion/the whole club.NapaAddick said:I blame Bowyer for this, as I've been saying for a while now. It's the one blotch on his otherwise excellent year for us.
We've lost our loanee and in the summer we will lose Phillips. Then what do we have? Nothing. Phillips should have been the guy from day one. Would we be out of the top 6 if he was in? Maybe. But he could have been our keeper for years to come and now we may miss top 6 anyway AND lose Phillips.
Short-term thinking, as I see it.
Crazy thinking.
If Phillips is so poor we should have sold him or put him out on loan.0
